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Eurolinx removal from Accredited List

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Casinomeister, Apr 30, 2008.

    Apr 30, 2008
  1. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Just in case you were wondering what I've been pretty much focused on the past week or so, there was a PAB that I was dealing with (that was played out at the 2+2 Forums) and it didn't turn out so well for either player or casino.

    You can read one of many threads here:
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    I've removed Eurolinx from the Accredited Section and Microgaming is looking into this. Just so you know.
     
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2008
  2. Apr 30, 2008
  3. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

    Occupation:
    Pencil Pusher
    Location:
    Up$hitCreek
    Thank you.

    The statement post can be found at this link

    You must register/login in order to see the link. at 2+2.
     
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  4. Apr 30, 2008
  5. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    And Mousey's link points at my statement - thanks! :D
     
  6. Apr 30, 2008
  7. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    EXECUTIVE
    Location:
    SOMEWHERE IN ASIA
    Bryan, I would assume that it's the poker room you are talking about and not the casino (unless it's the flash version in the poker room) since you stated that Microgaming would be involved. The Eurolinx casino is not powered by MG.

    Correction: I visited the site just now and the casino is now powered by MG. Funny, I never received any notice from them on the change in software for the casino since joining them several months ago.
     
  8. Apr 30, 2008
  9. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Eurolinx is a MGS licensee, and MGS are already looking into this.
     
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2008
  10. Apr 30, 2008
  11. BigRounder72

    BigRounder72 <a href="http://www.casinomeister.com/meister_awar

    Occupation:
    Self
    Location:
    USA
    Eurolinx

    The issue is not with the poker or casino part, but the ability of the site to process payouts.

    MG is involved because they are the licensor for the poker software, which is integrated with a casino portion.

    Cliffnotes: Eurolinx has TWO casino provider, one for a download version (MG), and a Java version (Net Entertainment, I believe).
     
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  12. Apr 30, 2008
  13. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    EXECUTIVE
    Location:
    SOMEWHERE IN ASIA
    Since you are here, I wonder whether you can explain why you offered a percentage of your money to the casinomeister if he ruled in your favour. That may be too naive a question though.
     
  14. Apr 30, 2008
  15. cslate

    cslate Banned User - potty mouth flaming

    Location:
    halifax novascotia
    why not offer some sort of compensation...Sounds to me like he should quit gambling and become a politician.

    :)
     
  16. Apr 30, 2008
  17. BigRounder72

    BigRounder72 <a href="http://www.casinomeister.com/meister_awar

    Occupation:
    Self
    Location:
    USA
    I like to share the wealth.

    :lolup:
     
  18. Apr 30, 2008
  19. BigRounder72

    BigRounder72 <a href="http://www.casinomeister.com/meister_awar

    Occupation:
    Self
    Location:
    USA
    Yes, it really is.
     
  20. May 1, 2008
  21. Bobo Fett

    Bobo Fett Dormant account

    Occupation:
    This & That
    Location:
    Canada
    This issue has finally inspired me to open an account here. I'm a mod over at 2+2, and the massive threads on the issue there have led me here. I'd like to thank CM for taking the time to post an explanation at 2+2.

    I'm curious as to the reasoning behind CM's decision to take EL off their accredited list. I'm assuming there's a good reason for it, but I didn't see much in the "ruling". Is there something more to the story, or is this decision based solely on what CM posted at 2+2?
     
  22. May 1, 2008
  23. BigRounder72

    BigRounder72 <a href="http://www.casinomeister.com/meister_awar

    Occupation:
    Self
    Location:
    USA
    Bobo,

    Hi there!!!

    Are you stalking me?

    :confused:
     
  24. May 1, 2008
  25. Self Made

    Self Made Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Online marketer and poker player
    Location:
    United States
    A lot of people are thinking the Tusk and Eurolinx problems reflect badly on Microgaming as a whole. I'd appreciate any details you could provide about problems you found at Eurolinx, to see if I should reevaluate my opinion of Microgaming.
     
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  26. May 1, 2008
  27. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    @ BigRounder

    2+2 has their own forum, and it's great for you to be able to post freely and spew whatever you want to spew over there. But when you bring the spewage over here - I need to remind you - you are on my turf.
    +++++++++

    For everyone else:

    I removed Eurolinx from the accredited section because they did not provide me with evidence that these wires were processed. I don't believe the wires were initiated. This is an issue that I've requested their software provider to look into since it's beyond my realm.

    But why did I step away from this issue like I did? It's because of the player's actions that I found to be inappropriate and down right unethical.

    The player manipulates the truth to his own means. There have been several times that he has been caught in a lie. For instance his initial complaint:

    Here is an excerpt from a chat session:

    Bigrounder says this is "doctored" or perhaps it's not "badgering" since that is a subjective term. How about "demanding". Perhaps that's a better way of describing his behaviour. :rolleyes:

    Bigrounder feels his criminal past has nothing to do with the present - it has everything to do with it. Especially when truthfulness and veracity play a major role. Bigrounder is no Wesley Snipes - you can not downplay this incident as a case of tax avoidance (like he has at 2+2):

    Removed court documentation

    You may wonder why this has anything to do with his case with Eurolinx - it has everything to do with it - he has set a pattern with his behavior.

    When I agreed to take this matter on, I told this player to quit posting in the forums. He disregarded this request and continued to post freely - including posting our private messages. I should have dropped the case right then and there.

    He also decided to try and cut a deal with the casino without my knowledge - stating he I was about to rule in his favor. I had not given the player any indication that I was about to make any ruling in his favor. But he decided to contact the casino with some bullshit:

    He also went further to impersonate the casino operator via a yahoo email account and contacted the bank. It was at this point that I made the decision to pull out of this mess.

    I don't feel that this player can grasp what the real problem is here - it's his greed. If he hadn't demanded that the casino front him cash advances so that he could foolishly gamble it away, he wouldn't have this problem.

    I've spent an incredible amount of time trying to assist both player and casino on this matter. The player has proven to be a thankless person who is only concerned about himself. At least the casino operator had the fortitude to apologize to me in private.

    @Bigrounder - why not wire the 100k to a charity located here.
    http://www.casinomeister.com/donate.php

    And then get off the message boards and contemplate what the hell you're doing with your life. Thanks!
     
    Last edited: May 2, 2008
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  28. May 1, 2008
  29. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    EXECUTIVE
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    This guy has no integrity at all. Are you sending him an invoice for all the hard work Bryan?
     
    3 people like this.
  30. May 1, 2008
  31. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Forget candidate, we have our 2007 Evil Player award right here.

    and:

    Apparently he tried to bribe Bryan as well...:rolleyes:
     
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  32. May 1, 2008
  33. same_old

    same_old Dormant account PABaccred webmeister

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    12th man
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    Australia
    Awesome, I was waiting for the next beefy issue to happen, the last was AP poker and we had a dry spell where everyone was playing nice but give it a few weeks and you get a nice juicy story like this to read.

    I feel bad for Bryan, us regulars know how much time and effort you put into your work and to have this wanker treat you like he has would really piss me off.
     
  34. May 1, 2008
  35. cslate

    cslate Banned User - potty mouth flaming

    Location:
    halifax novascotia
    Hey ...we should put him a pit for rouge users ....:)
     
  36. May 1, 2008
  37. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
  38. May 1, 2008
  39. BigRounder72

    BigRounder72 <a href="http://www.casinomeister.com/meister_awar

    Occupation:
    Self
    Location:
    USA
    Wow, I'm truly humbled that my situation can be compared to the "Great Ripoff by AP in 2007.

    BTW---I applied for superuser accounts at both AP and UB, but was denied, as I was told I don't have enough crook experience.

    PS--Bryan, I'm sorry I offended you, if you would like me to send a reasonable donation to a charity of your choice in your name (for a reasonable amount, not $100k, around $10-20k, please PM me at 2+2).
     

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