Eurolinx removal from Accredited List

Casinomeister

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Just in case you were wondering what I've been pretty much focused on the past week or so, there was a PAB that I was dealing with (that was played out at the 2+2 Forums) and it didn't turn out so well for either player or casino.

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I've removed Eurolinx from the Accredited Section and Microgaming is looking into this. Just so you know.
 
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Casinomeister

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And Mousey's link points at my statement - thanks! :D
 

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Bryan, I would assume that it's the poker room you are talking about and not the casino (unless it's the flash version in the poker room) since you stated that Microgaming would be involved. The Eurolinx casino is not powered by MG.

Correction: I visited the site just now and the casino is now powered by MG. Funny, I never received any notice from them on the change in software for the casino since joining them several months ago.
 

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Bryan, I would assume that it's the poker room you are talking about and not the casino (unless it's the flash version in the poker room) since you stated that Microgaming would be involved. The Eurolinx casino is not powered by MG.
Eurolinx is a MGS licensee, and MGS are already looking into this.
 
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Eurolinx

Bryan, I would assume that it's the poker room you are talking about and not the casino (unless it's the flash version in the poker room) since you stated that Microgaming would be involved. The Eurolinx casino is not powered by MG.

Correction: I visited the site just now and the casino is now powered by MG. Funny, I never received any notice from them on the change in software for the casino since joining them several months ago.

The issue is not with the poker or casino part, but the ability of the site to process payouts.

MG is involved because they are the licensor for the poker software, which is integrated with a casino portion.

Cliffnotes: Eurolinx has TWO casino provider, one for a download version (MG), and a Java version (Net Entertainment, I believe).
 

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The issue is not with the poker or casino part, but the ability of the site to process payouts.

MG is involved because they are the licensor for the poker software, which is integrated with a casino portion.

Cliffnotes: Eurolinx has TWO casino provider, one for a download version (MG), and a Java version (Net Entertainment, I believe).

Since you are here, I wonder whether you can explain why you offered a percentage of your money to the casinomeister if he ruled in your favour. That may be too naive a question though.
 

BigRounder72

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Since you are here, I wonder whether you can explain why you offered a percentage of your money to the casinomeister if he ruled in your favour. That may be too naive a question though.

I like to share the wealth.

:lolup:
 

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This issue has finally inspired me to open an account here. I'm a mod over at 2+2, and the massive threads on the issue there have led me here. I'd like to thank CM for taking the time to post an explanation at 2+2.

I'm curious as to the reasoning behind CM's decision to take EL off their accredited list. I'm assuming there's a good reason for it, but I didn't see much in the "ruling". Is there something more to the story, or is this decision based solely on what CM posted at 2+2?
 

BigRounder72

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This issue has finally inspired me to open an account here. I'm a mod over at 2+2, and the massive threads on the issue there have led me here. I'd like to thank CM for taking the time to post an explanation at 2+2.

I'm curious as to the reasoning behind CM's decision to take EL off their accredited list. I'm assuming there's a good reason for it, but I didn't see much in the "ruling". Is there something more to the story, or is this decision based solely on what CM posted at 2+2?

Bobo,

Hi there!!!

Are you stalking me?

:confused:
 

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A lot of people are thinking the Tusk and Eurolinx problems reflect badly on Microgaming as a whole. I'd appreciate any details you could provide about problems you found at Eurolinx, to see if I should reevaluate my opinion of Microgaming.
 

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I like to share the wealth.

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@ BigRounder

2+2 has their own forum, and it's great for you to be able to post freely and spew whatever you want to spew over there. But when you bring the spewage over here - I need to remind you - you are on my turf.
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For everyone else:

I removed Eurolinx from the accredited section because they did not provide me with evidence that these wires were processed. I don't believe the wires were initiated. This is an issue that I've requested their software provider to look into since it's beyond my realm.

But why did I step away from this issue like I did? It's because of the player's actions that I found to be inappropriate and down right unethical.

The player manipulates the truth to his own means. There have been several times that he has been caught in a lie. For instance his initial complaint:

On March 24th, I requested a wire withdrawal of my balance of $145,000. I was told the wire would take 2-7 business days, and received an email confirmation from Lydia, the VIP manager, that my wire would hit my bank on April 3rd. Nothing arrived on April 3rd, and the Owner and CEO of Eurolinx, Jo Remme promised to "put a trace" on it (which he did not). He then emailed me early Friday morning and advise me that "there is a slight delay or 1-2 days", which would mean the wire should arrive no later then today (Monday, April 7th).

On Friday even, Jo Remme, offers to "advance" me and credit my poker account $245,000. Hmm, strange, has anyone else ever received an "advance" from any MicroGaming site, especially in the amount of 1/4 of a million? I accepted, and in a matter of 12 hours lost the entire amount.

Here is an excerpt from a chat session:

[21:21:52]
info: Please wait for a site operator to respond.
[21:21:58]
info: You are now chatting with 'Jackie'
[21:22:02]
Jackie: Hello. How may I assist you?
[21:22:07]
bigrounder: im gonna nend 65k more please
[21:22:36]
Jackie: One moment please.
[21:23:09]
bigrounder: ASAP
[21:23:18]
bigrounder: that'll be 145k, the amount of the wire,
[21:24:20]
Jackie: Ok, done.

Bigrounder says this is "doctored" or perhaps it's not "badgering" since that is a subjective term. How about "demanding". Perhaps that's a better way of describing his behaviour. :rolleyes:

Bigrounder feels his criminal past has nothing to do with the present - it has everything to do with it. Especially when truthfulness and veracity play a major role. Bigrounder is no Wesley Snipes - you can not downplay this incident as a case of tax avoidance (like he has at 2+2):

Removed court documentation

You may wonder why this has anything to do with his case with Eurolinx - it has everything to do with it - he has set a pattern with his behavior.

When I agreed to take this matter on, I told this player to quit posting in the forums. He disregarded this request and continued to post freely - including posting our private messages. I should have dropped the case right then and there.

He also decided to try and cut a deal with the casino without my knowledge - stating he I was about to rule in his favor. I had not given the player any indication that I was about to make any ruling in his favor. But he decided to contact the casino with some bullshit:

Visitor: ok, here's the offer, good for today only. I will accept a wire from you in the amount of $100,000 (a discount of $45,020) to be sent on Monday, to be received no later then Thursday.

Visitor: The meister is about to rule in my favor, and if that is still up the air, after I provide additional info that I have obtained, it will be indisputable.

Manager: Please stop wasting my time

He also went further to impersonate the casino operator via a yahoo email account and contacted the bank. It was at this point that I made the decision to pull out of this mess.

I don't feel that this player can grasp what the real problem is here - it's his greed. If he hadn't demanded that the casino front him cash advances so that he could foolishly gamble it away, he wouldn't have this problem.

I've spent an incredible amount of time trying to assist both player and casino on this matter. The player has proven to be a thankless person who is only concerned about himself. At least the casino operator had the fortitude to apologize to me in private.

@Bigrounder - why not wire the 100k to a charity located here.
https://www.casinomeister.com/donate/

And then get off the message boards and contemplate what the hell you're doing with your life. Thanks!
 
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Forget candidate, we have our 2007 Evil Player award right here.

and:

Originally Posted by chuchu59 View Post
Since you are here, I wonder whether you can explain why you offered a percentage of your money to the casinomeister if he ruled in your favour. That may be too naive a question though.

Apparently he tried to bribe Bryan as well...:rolleyes:
 

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Awesome, I was waiting for the next beefy issue to happen, the last was AP poker and we had a dry spell where everyone was playing nice but give it a few weeks and you get a nice juicy story like this to read.

I feel bad for Bryan, us regulars know how much time and effort you put into your work and to have this wanker treat you like he has would really piss me off.
 

BigRounder72

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Awesome, I was waiting for the next beefy issue to happen, the last was AP poker and we had a dry spell where everyone was playing nice but give it a few weeks and you get a nice juicy story like this to read.

I feel bad for Bryan, us regulars know how much time and effort you put into your work and to have this wanker treat you like he has would really piss me off.

Wow, I'm truly humbled that my situation can be compared to the "Great Ripoff by AP in 2007.

BTW---I applied for superuser accounts at both AP and UB, but was denied, as I was told I don't have enough crook experience.

PS--Bryan, I'm sorry I offended you, if you would like me to send a reasonable donation to a charity of your choice in your name (for a reasonable amount, not $100k, around $10-20k, please PM me at 2+2).
 
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