Escaping the bad slots.

Have you won on Avalon, Tomb Raider and Hitman?

  • Yes a lot

    Votes: 8 20.0%
  • No nothing

    Votes: 22 55.0%
  • Averaged 0, both profit and loss beeng the same.

    Votes: 10 25.0%

  • Total voters
    40

holkapolka

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Can we say for sure that slots offered by casinos in form of free spins promotions have less chance of winning on than others? This is my experience.

So here is the quest for stats that can help us win more:
 

Deeplay

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Can we say for sure that slots offered by casinos in form of free spins promotions have less chance of winning on than others? This is my experience.

So here is the quest for stats that can help us win more:

Well dont know about hitman or Tomb raider as have not played them much.
Have done quite alot of play on Avalon and its quite easy to spot if its in tight mode, e.g no scatters and few wins, when it plays like this - take ya money and run. When it does pay it can be huge! I think the other 2 slots are low to medium varience and its hard maybe to hit somthing massive. Dont think these games have any less chance than winning that other slots. Just differnt payout potential. And in fact with the Avalon tourneys its kind of a hook as if you hit big in a tourny some people might wanna try it in normal play with there own cash.
 

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When I could still play MG, I won a little bit on Hitman and Avalon - nothing remarkable, though.

But Tombraider was my go-to slot - I miss it. :( I can't say my wins were spectacular, but they were reasonably good.
 

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I've never done well on Tombraider, had some good and bad sessions on Hitman and generally done OK on Avalon.
 

LinkinFart

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shouldnt have made the poll with one answer and 3 slots, imo.

I think i`m around zero at Avalon and Tomb Raider, havent played much of TR1 for a very long time and I wont count those few spins I played in between but they all sucked.

Hitman is the worst, I dont think I`ve ever hit a bonus feature in real money mode, not tourney. Overall on Hitman, down and some more.

As someone said, Avalon is easy to spot but they changed how the slots produce its payout a while back and they changed them in totally different direction of the previous setup to protect themselves and casual players that just want to play that particular slot from "Hot" slot hunters. Its really hard to tell nowadays when some slot is hot and when its not, before I was able to spot a hot or cold one in first 5-10 spins, some even in first 2 spins, and certain slots in up to 25 spins. To make them even more confusing some slots pay similar to what they used to pay while hot when they are in fact cold.
 

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Ever since I started to play freeroll tourneys I've not played much on Avalon and TR1 (suffering from overdose), but I've had some very decent hits on both in the past.
Best I did on Avalon was a 360.- win in free spins on a 0.60 spin.

I've had a few nice hits on Hitman also, the computerbonus can pay very high, but the game is VERY streaky.
The expanding wilds can generate huge linewins if you get all 3 of them.
But the dry spells, ...oh the dry spells...:(
 

ergopro

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Have had one of my biggest MG hits on Hitman bonus round.
Avalon kills me almost every time...especially at Ladbrokes...:D
Tomb Raider 1, never hit anything, haven't played it that much...
Tomb Raider 2 is fun...trap,trap :lolup:
 

holkapolka

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Hmm

I myself have experienced slot tournaments with Avalon and Hitman as very(!) bad slots, tomb raider i havent played at so much. Ive made a new website with inside tricks I have theories of might incrase winning chances..

casinovideoslotmachines.com
 
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PaaskeDenmark

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3 years ago i tried winning first around 11.000$ in bonus round on Hitman... I managed the following week to play all my winnings from my moneybookers :(
BUT with the last 50$ deposit i had left, Somehow magic happened...... i hit the top prize again, i was in shock. I won almost 13.000$ that time, i think i was betting 12$ each spin that time, because i won smaller prizes on other slots first. So my bankroll was around 900$ that time....
It was just crazy, nice thing to think back on.
So i guess you can say i have good profit on these slots hehe :lolup:
 

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I myself have experienced slot tournaments with Avalon and Hitman as very(!) bad slots, tomb raider i havent played at so much. Ive made a new website with inside tricks I have theories of might incrase winning chances..

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Hello Norwegian guy :)

I looked very quickly on your site. You have listed up 5 slots tips.

5. To be more sure of winning on casino slot games an amount of $500 is needed.

You can`t be sure to win on slots. Deposit $20 or $500 makes no difference

6. If you have lost repeatedly (meaning 3-4mins.) of play increase the amount of bet per spin as the chances of winning after a long loosing time is great.

I don`t agree. Every new spin is a "new session".

3. Playing on old slot machines like the 777's have most likely lower payout percentage than the new ones that you can easily spot by looking at what casino slot machine has the best graphic. The new ones have been made after the casino's income have increased during the years and thereby have a higher payout rate than the old casino slots.

Don`t agree. My experience is the opposite. I don`t tell you that you are wrong, I just don`t agree :)
 

holkapolka

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Hmm

Hello Norwegian guy :)

I looked very quickly on your site. You have listed up 5 slots tips.

5. To be more sure of winning on casino slot games an amount of $500 is needed.

You can`t be sure to win on slots. Deposit $20 or $500 makes no difference

Casinos originated in aristocratic places whereas people had money. The reason they have the option of "not spinning the wheels yourself" but the "auto option where you choose 100 spins for example done by the computer) means that the casinos know that one has to play many rounds to win. Ive been drinking a lot the past days and cant say anything more logical about that right now..


6. If you have lost repeatedly (meaning 3-4mins.) of play increase the amount of bet per spin as the chances of winning after a long loosing time is great.

I don`t agree. Every new spin is a "new session".

No, it is all been calculated and made into a system by the casinos to ensure their income.

3. Playing on old slot machines like the 777's have most likely lower payout percentage than the new ones that you can easily spot by looking at what casino slot machine has the best graphic. The new ones have been made after the casino's income have increased during the years and thereby have a higher payout rate than the old casino slots.

Don`t agree. My experience is the opposite. I don`t tell you that you are wrong, I just don`t agree :)

The 3. can be discussed offcourse but when it comes to real life slots on real life casinos the tip I believe is more true as they wouldn't change the system in the slot as easy as they can online.


Thanks for feedback.
 

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In THEORY, every spin SHOULD be a new session, but many veteran gamblers on this board subscribe to the notion that the gaming companies issue software with "cycles". Therefore, spins are clearly not random.

I agree.

A slot can never be completely random because they are "rigged" to behave in a way that gives the player a certain payback percentage (in a long perspective). But every spin is a new session (in a cycle if you wish) independent of the previous spin.
 

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I agree.

A slot can never be completely random because they are "rigged" to behave in a way that gives the player a certain payback percentage (in a long perspective). But every spin is a new session (in a cycle if you wish) independent of the previous spin.
I agreed with your post before the one above, but totally disagree with this one.

It is a common misconception IMO that slots need to be "rigged" to achieve their RTP. This is absolutely not true.
Do casinos have to "rig" their roulette wheel to get a 2.7027% house advantage?
No they don't - the edge is provided by the simple mathematics of the game.
This is exactly the same for random video slots.

KK
 

rainmaker

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I agreed with your post before the one above, but totally disagree with this one.

It is a common misconception IMO that slots need to be "rigged" to achieve their RTP. This is absolutely not true.
Do casinos have to "rig" their roulette wheel to get a 2.7027% house advantage?
No they don't - the edge is provided by the simple mathematics of the game.
This is exactly the same for random video slots.

KK

Yes, I totally agree with you. As I said, the games are "rigged" to behave in a certain way. For me, rigged means "set up". I did not mean rigged in as the way people often use the word in this forum (rigged in a bad way)

Slots, blackjack and roulette are all set up in a way that gives the games a certain RTP (by mathematics in fair casinos)
 
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aceking123

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I agreed with your post before the one above, but totally disagree with this one.

It is a common misconception IMO that slots need to be "rigged" to achieve their RTP. This is absolutely not true.
Do casinos have to "rig" their roulette wheel to get a 2.7027% house advantage?
No they don't - the edge is provided by the simple mathematics of the game.
This is exactly the same for random video slots.

KK

i would beg to differ with your statement kk , as i long time playing slots & roulette ive seen the most worst possible house edge , im not saying that there rigged but i will say that everyslot & card game produced from RNG is in fact weighted to % its to wether you play this at the right time concerning roulette MG casinos are the worst play for this ,you realy dont see that many realy big hits on roulette, although im aware alot of people play it ,house edge is there but also the RNG is weighted so these casinos dont get a massive losses on roulette , if you play it long enough you can see that it always has you one way or another , tell me how many times youve seen your number repeat lets 14 ive had it once , now what about a number you havnt had money placed on ive seen 6 times . random my bum , its weighted to wether & how much has gone into it . although i shall agree with live roulette being a 2.7027% but not RNG games )
 

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Yes, I totally agree with you. As I said, the games are "rigged" to behave in a certain way. For me, rigged means "set up". I did not mean rigged in as the way people often use the word in this forum (rigged in a bad way)

Slots, blackjack and roulette are all set up in a way that gives the games a certain RTP (by mathematics in fair casinos)

I think your using the wrong word "rigged" - set up yes in a certain way to retain "House Edge" thats the optimum word here. There is no need for casinos to cheat with any software as they are built from the ground up with a house edge built it. This is not the same as somthing being rigged. It can feel like it somtimes for sure when you have 100s of spins say on slots and nothing pays but thats just the state of play. And the longer you play - into the "millions of spins" zone the closer you will get to the actual RTP which is usually somwhere between 92 and 96 ish %
 

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I think your using the wrong word "rigged" - set up yes in a certain way to retain "House Edge" thats the optimum word here. There is no need for casinos to cheat with any software as they are built from the ground up with a house edge built it. This is not the same as somthing being rigged. It can feel like it somtimes for sure when you have 100s of spins say on slots and nothing pays but thats just the state of play. And the longer you play - into the "millions of spins" zone the closer you will get to the actual RTP which is usually somwhere between 92 and 96 ish %


Yes, you're probably right. Was wrong to use the word rigged. It happens since english isn`t my native language:)
 

steveh35

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I cannot vote in your poll because i won £900 on Avalon about 4 years ago but have not won significant amounts on the other two.
 
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