Emu Casino and Australian Players suicide

zazedac

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Either way he was declined multiple times and he felt that the answer was to end his life. It's so sad. They're launching a full investigation to all online providers that provide to Australia so they should be on high alert
 

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Either way he was declined multiple times and he felt that the answer was to end his life. It's so sad. They're launching a full investigation to all online providers that provide to Australia so they should be on high alert

They can't really do anything, AU should just have their own licence already for online gambling and not only for Sport Betting because that is all they have :(
 

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The media wont report the countless number of people who commit suicide after putting their house through Crown/Star Casino's every year but jump on this because it is online and competition... Gotta keep a monopoly alive any way possible.

Very valid point. Every casino, whether online or B&M - Have their fair share of extreme cases. Having said that, the fun and games a large amount of players endure online - when it comes to withdrawing are quite unique.

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Despite what the article and A Current Affair are claiming - that the casino refused to pay him - all of their comments are based around a lot of "maybe", "probably" and "perhaps". In other words, nothing more than speculation by both his understandably distraught mother, and Dr Gainsbury.

From what I have read, the casino did not refuse to pay him. It rejected his documents - totally different ballgame all together - and was waiting for him to send in updated ones.

I have had documents rejected before, usually because they were a scan, or the corners were not shown/folded back, but I was always paid in the end. And yes, one of those casinos was Emu.

It doesn't appear as if he had much experience with online casinos, and was perhaps confused by the need for correct KYC documents so didn't understand the verification protocol associated with online casinos.

All round, a very tragic situation. But - and I will probably get crucified for this - to commit suicide doesn't sound as if he was in the right headspace, and not just because of the situation with Emu. The final trigger may have been the Jackpot win followed by his losing it all, but in real terms, all he lost was $200. And yes, possibly a lot of hopes and dreams along with the money. But all he had to do was wait.
 

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Oh man, what a tragic waste of life. Feel for his friends and family - devastation.

No matter how many times I hear these types of stories, they always affect me - leaves me wondering what ultimately drove the person to the point of no return.

Sadly, suicide and problem gambling (acute or chronic in nature), intersect all too often.

And as has been correctly pointed out by my peers in this thread, gambling related suicides are by no means unique to online casinos.

R.I.P. Thomas
 
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….And as has been correctly pointed out by my peers in this thread, gambling related suicides are by no means unique to online casinos.
I have always believed it was much easier to lose all hope and sink into despair during online sessions than it was at land based clubs/casinos, due to the high betting stakes permitted, and the easier access to funds to keep depositing. And when a big win happens, it really is a BIG WIN! Walking away and waiting for the winnings to be paid can test the resolve of even the strongest of us. Not to chase even bigger wins with even bigger stakes can be quite a challenge that is hard to resist.

Land based clubs/casinos have more reasonable stake limits. And of course, there are no verification issues or delays in waiting for payment - one simply goes up to the cashier and bang! Here is your money, Sir/Madame.

However statistics seem to indicate that the rate of gambling addiction related to land based clubs and casinos is very high: Source -
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"Some 200,000 machines later, pokies are the biggest driver of the nation's gambling industry - but that's come at a cost. About one in six Australians who play regularly has a serious addiction and loses on average about $21,000 a year, according to government data. The social cost of gambling to the community is estimated to be at least $4.7 billion a year."

And very tellingly from SBS:
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"Gambling researchers say heavy financial losses are likely to be one of the most important causes of suicides among problem gamblers.
Problem gamblers often have substance-abuse problems and other mental-health issues, but debt has been identified as the factor most likely to push them over the edge."


So which is the lesser of two evils? Online or land-based?

If one has an addictive personality, it really does seem to be a case of Either/Or, although land-based clubs/casinos do appear to have a slight edge regarding the "Path to Destruction", not only for those with other problems, but for ordinary citizens as well.
 

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I have always believed it was much easier to lose all hope and sink into despair during online sessions than it was at land based clubs/casinos, due to the high betting stakes permitted, and the easier access to funds to keep depositing. And when a big win happens, it really is a BIG WIN! Walking away and waiting for the winnings to be paid can test the resolve of even the strongest of us. Not to chase even bigger wins with even bigger stakes can be quite a challenge that is hard to resist.

Land based clubs/casinos have more reasonable stake limits. And of course, there are no verification issues or delays in waiting for payment - one simply goes up to the cashier and bang! Here is your money, Sir/Madame.

However statistics seem to indicate that the rate of gambling addiction related to land based clubs and casinos is very high: Source -
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"Some 200,000 machines later, pokies are the biggest driver of the nation's gambling industry - but that's come at a cost. About one in six Australians who play regularly has a serious addiction and loses on average about $21,000 a year, according to government data. The social cost of gambling to the community is estimated to be at least $4.7 billion a year."

And very tellingly from SBS:
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"Gambling researchers say heavy financial losses are likely to be one of the most important causes of suicides among problem gamblers.
Problem gamblers often have substance-abuse problems and other mental-health issues, but debt has been identified as the factor most likely to push them over the edge."


So which is the lesser of two evils? Online or land-based?

If one has an addictive personality, it really does seem to be a case of Either/Or, although land-based clubs/casinos do appear to have a slight edge regarding the "Path to Destruction", not only for those with other problems, but for ordinary citizens as well.

Statistics can naturally change over time, and whilst the current record (and we don’t really know how accurate it is) shows that land based related suicides exceed online related suicides at this time, the converse could eventually apply.

Whether it’s online or land based gambling, I see them as being equally dangerous, and the risk of suicide comparable, especially to those who regularly exhibit compulsive tendencies, as you say, and simply aren’t equipped with the emotional maturity to cope with unforeseen monetary losses resulting from the infamous ‘tilt’.
 

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I have to admit I already did that twice. Any casinos with a pending period or very busy financial departement every time you withdraw 4 figures is for me, a risk of reversing until my 2000× deposit winnings goes back to nothing.

You will probably think I am insane for doing such a stupid thing. I am and I will always be and I can live with it. Gambling is an evil pleasure that can be magical at times and become the most absurd thing very fast if you think you can bankrupt anyone else than yourself while pushing it again and again until profits turn to a very small lost deposit of 75$ that went up to 20k and then 4$ playing 10 cents spins while singing a song you hate.

You really have to know yourself and manage to play somewhere that fits your behavior in case of a big win, big lost or anything that will put your brain in a state that is sometimes not enjoyable when it should.

This story is sad. But this guy killed himself for 200$. Not 30k. We have an article with so much info missing, it looks like a fake spam ad written by a clueless person who is trying to point fingers at something he doesnt know sh1t about.

The term illegal means nothing to me. Lotoquebec here is trying to scare people with these kind of empty statements. Telling anyone that offshore illegal gambling casinos will scam you and will sell drug to your kids if you dont listen to them. Pretty much the only arguments available, when you choose to offer online poker with the worst software ever made and to igt laggy boring games with their great 3 seconds delay rule on every spin on any slot. Oh yeah, forgot password option never works, prepaid cards neither, no loyalty, support agents worst than my mom trying to shuffle a deck of cards. But it's legal.

If you decide to gamble your money, you have to know yourself and most importantly, not forget why you are doing it. I like to gamble for the potential huge profit. Making a 20$ deposit and cashing out 50$ after 3 days is a waste of time to me. Not worth it. Turning 20$ into 5000$ is possible. I made it so many times. 99% of these deposits are lost and I can live with that. I can also live with the fact that its costing me money in the long run and will never really hit something worth all these hours looking at my mobile phone for hours. What I can't accept is a casino that doesnt flush withdrawals, refuse to verify me before I deposit, or gives dumb obvious reasons not to pay in a 12 hours timeframe. Why? Because when I achieve my withdrawal ammount goal, looking at a pending transaction for days makes me feel like I am the one who should have verified the casino, asking for proof of every busy managers 24 hours in a row on weekdays...with insane selfie demands while doing bicycle with one hand and pointing in the direction of the place they are going to spend 100$ for notarized ids for me to accept to deposit 25$ if they comply for my vague demands in the 28 emails needed to do so with 13 hours delay in between each of them. Sounds bad? Highly rated casinos are doing that and it has become standard practice and is tolerated by all.

Find a casino that can afford to flush big wins without any bs excuses.
Honest chat support agents that can actually take a decision other than send an email to the "right departement" that will often respond 2 days later... with the exact same name than the agent named Esteban that was very nice, but couldnt help because he is not allowed to.
Find a vip manager you can trust. No bs, no lies and a calculator that works. The 2 best I have ever had : Everum and Ladyhammer. Honest, straightforward and most importantly, real human beings
Test them with simple demands before giving them action. Some very reputable places, not being able to verify a drivers licence for a week and trying for hustle you for 20$ of.not honoring a cheap offer... run fast and never look back. Its crazy how this has become standard. It's not like I will sleep any less because I was treated like crap when I asked an honor promessed to be honored, actually I enjoy it. The 10 spins that are rejected by support claming that the moon is not aligned properly with the.sun today so offer is not valid anymore since UTC time zone/Andromed galaxy + my last cashout x 0.36% bgaming slots rtp = sorry cant honor offer... even if I contacted.to.you by email with this said offer, but yeah... feel free to contact us if you want to...... account closed :)

Sorry for the long post. All I wanted to say : gambling is very bad for your pockets, but of you do it the way you enjoy it, 1% of the time will make it a.very special moment. Your brains will pop as you see the huge.numbers on your screen, buy a cruise to.your parents, pay your sisters student loan and feel no financial obligations for a while. This is something that makes. It worth for me. That said, it it is mandatory to protect yourself from possible problems like greedy casinos, lack of control, terms that require more patience and/or control that.you can handle after a huge win. Your experiences will cost you over the years. But IMO, it's a game that can't be replaced with bowling or dishes.

That guy turned a dream into a fkn nightmare. The reversal to death is an evil practice that destroys any pleasure, profit.or.mental health. The last time I did win 70k with a 28$ deposit, I lost around 50k before being locked out from my account by the casino rep who politely told me to go sleep and flush 20k to my bank.account. I didn't feel bad. I was trying to win 100k with 28$ playing 1000$ spins on dream catcher and 50$ spins on high variance slots. 70k wasnt satisfying. A year salary from a 28$ deposit was somehow not my goal on that day. I thought it was a good plan to try to to get to 100k because my initial 5k withdrawal wasnt flushed when I asked, so I would make them pay 95k more. Almost got there. The result : I learned the exact casino model, terms and withdrawals policies I needed to keep.enjoying gambling. I also learned that even if this industry has made excuses and bs a routine thing too.many times, you will still find the right place with the right people to make it fun and less dangerous. Its not the first time I tell this story, but it is the first time that i can admit that this day changed me, my perception of my control ability over my gambling activities and my complete lack of ability to realize 70k was enough, it was insane enough. The rep made the difference there. Probably the sickest block/flush/go to sleep story ever, at least for me. But the casino has a 24h pending period with no WE cashouts. And let me reversed 50 times pending transactions from 5k to 70k for the whole 35 hours session. Technology is not there yet I guess. Or the popcorn was good :)

Plz don't kill yourself guys... it's money. A financial tool that can be used to.buy.food or have fun...

Take a 100$ bill and burn.it.with a.lighter. if you feel bad about it for more than an hour. Go play bowling instead.
 

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No some people don’t understand when people use it as a distraction from their problems and it becomes a big issue. To share something quite personal I had quite a traumatic upbringing (everyone has a story though) and when I was 19 I was very badly traumatised something happened to me that caused me to be hospitalised and I developed post traumatic stress disorder. I couldn’t sleep at night for 4 years. I was working as a stripper so had quite a good income and to distract from my problems I started gambling. Through my 20’s I probably lost a million dollars. I used to literally dare myself when I went to the pub that if I lost I had to kill myself like I was looking for an excuse. So many times I walked home walking on the road hoping a car would hit me. I spent time in mental health institutions and was so depressed at one point that my actions resulted in me being in a coma for 6 days. I felt like I would purposely lose cos then it would make me think about something other then what I was going through. I tried to ban myself from local venues but they ignored it. For anyone who doesn’t know NSW in Australia has the highest amount of pokies in the world and biggest losses. The laws used to be that they could only pay max $2000 cash from any pokie machine at one time. They would pay the rest in cheque so people couldn’t put it back in. They then upped it to $5000 which is fucked. They give free drinks and food to people gambling. You can’t smoke cigarettes in pubs here anymore except in the gaming rooms and if you’re smoking there but not gambling security will remove you for doing so. The staff at the venues will even egg you on to continue playing. You can sit there crying your eyes out and have a breakdown tell them how much you lost and they say it’s ok you will win. They even advertise gambling on the opera house! Venues aren’t allowed to have late lockout unless they have pokies. It’s so fucked up. I know so many people who have taken their lives due to it and the shame around it means they don’t tell people about it cos there’s so much judgement. One of my close friends is the Australian correspondent for BBC Australia and also the lead journalist for Australia’s biggest newspaper. I have spoken to him recently about that he needs to do an expose on the gambling industry here but he needs to put a face to it and my experiences and I own a successful entertainment company and also a management company representing artists from all over the world for huge contracts with record labels and big name corporate clients I can’t have my name attached to that. But something needs to change here with the gambling land based pokies over online pokies our government makes SOOO much money in taxes from them most pubs don’t even bother with entertainment or live music anymore as a result they don’t need to some are only open for gambling. I book entertainers for venues too and very few even book them apart from to host racing and gambling events. It’s such a shame. You can only know how it makes you feel if you’re the person it affects. So don’t judge someone based on their experience you don’t know how it was for them.
 

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... But something needs to change here with the gambling land based pokies over online pokies.

Our government makes SOOO much money in taxes from them. Most pubs don’t even bother with entertainment or live music anymore - as a result they don’t need to. Some are only open for gambling.

I book entertainers for venues too and very few even book them apart from to host racing and gambling events. It’s such a shame.

You can only know how it makes you feel if you’re the person it affects. So don’t judge someone based on their experience. You don’t know how it was for them.

Up here in regional Australia - Coffs Harbour to be precise - we appear to be bucking the trend you describe, as there are many pubs and clubs hosting various entertainment events. In fact, I have yet to see any venue, and that includes the two big RSL clubs within a 10 km radius - hosting racing and gambling events, except perhaps for the Gold Cup in August.

But yes, our useless government is so hypocritical - blaming online casinos for all the social evils of the world - thanks Xenophon, you moron - but effectively making "SOOO much money in taxes' from pubs/clubs/casinos with their pokies, that they completely disregarded the fact that the land based gambling problem is as great, or even greater, than the Online threat.

In fact, I think the problem is mainly with pubs/clubs, as casinos are rather thin on the ground where I live - last casino I visited was Jupiters, back in 2016 - but every Bowling club, Fishing club, Catholic club, RSL club, hole-in-the-wall pub, etc. have the dreaded pokies. Although I haven't seen any only open for gambling.

Regarding the bolded statement - not sure how to interpret this.

No, we don't know how gambling makes a person feel. However, I still believe gambling is being unfairly demonised as the root cause of many people's personal problems, when in reality, it is quite often just the tip of the iceberg. I believe your own personal history - very tragic and hard to read, although also demonstrating your strength of character - actually supports this.
 

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Up here in regional Australia - Coffs Harbour to be precise - we appear to be bucking the trend you describe, as there are many pubs and clubs hosting various entertainment events. In fact, I have yet to see any venue, and that includes the two big RSL clubs within a 10 km radius - hosting racing and gambling events, except perhaps for the Gold Cup in August.

But yes, our useless government is so hypocritical - blaming online casinos for all the social evils of the world - thanks Xenophon, you moron - but effectively making "SOOO much money in taxes' from pubs/clubs/casinos with their pokies, that they completely disregarded the fact that the land based gambling problem is as great, or even greater, than the Online threat.

In fact, I think the problem is mainly with pubs/clubs, as casinos are rather thin on the ground where I live - last casino I visited was Jupiters, back in 2016 - but every Bowling club, Fishing club, Catholic club, RSL club, hole-in-the-wall pub, etc. have the dreaded pokies. Although I haven't seen any only open for gambling.

Regarding the bolded statement - not sure how to interpret this.

No, we don't know how gambling makes a person feel. However, I still believe gambling is being unfairly demonised as the root cause of many people's personal problems, when in reality, it is quite often just the tip of the iceberg. I believe your own personal history - very tragic and hard to read, although also demonstrating your strength of character - actually supports this.

Ok so in Sydney there are a few pubs that don’t even have public bar areas anymore just tab and pokies. Ok so as far as venues hosting so I always book hosts for Melbourne Cup and 2up on Anzac Day. They actually spend quite a lot on this as my entertainers are high end and cost at least $600 for a 2 hour booking. But there’s not many live music venues left which is disappointing. I’m also from Northern NSW grew up in Nimbin and Byron even in small towns the pubs are bad. This government needs a wake up call. I’m so tempted to get my barrister to give them a shake he’s amazing he helped change this countries anti constitutional laws they tried to bring in for some people. Australians lose 24 billion dollars a year in pokie machines which is $920 per Australian citizen. Read this article
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I preferred when online gambling was legal here with good casinos I had a deposit limit per week and cashed out a lot at least I knew I would cash out I could put $5000 in here in 2 hours and have zero wins

I say allow online gambling in AU so we can play at accredited casinos where we can control our deposits and lock withdrawals etc. Much better than land based.
 

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Up here in regional Australia - Coffs Harbour to be precise - we appear to be bucking the trend you describe, as there are many pubs and clubs hosting various entertainment events. In fact, I have yet to see any venue, and that includes the two big RSL clubs within a 10 km radius - hosting racing and gambling events, except perhaps for the Gold Cup in August.

But yes, our useless government is so hypocritical - blaming online casinos for all the social evils of the world - thanks Xenophon, you moron - but effectively making "SOOO much money in taxes' from pubs/clubs/casinos with their pokies, that they completely disregarded the fact that the land based gambling problem is as great, or even greater, than the Online threat.

In fact, I think the problem is mainly with pubs/clubs, as casinos are rather thin on the ground where I live - last casino I visited was Jupiters, back in 2016 - but every Bowling club, Fishing club, Catholic club, RSL club, hole-in-the-wall pub, etc. have the dreaded pokies. Although I haven't seen any only open for gambling.

Regarding the bolded statement - not sure how to interpret this.

No, we don't know how gambling makes a person feel. However, I still believe gambling is being unfairly demonised as the root cause of many people's personal problems, when in reality, it is quite often just the tip of the iceberg. I believe your own personal history - very tragic and hard to read, although also demonstrating your strength of character - actually supports this.

Love Coffs, beautiful part of the world; did my B.Sc up there at the National Marine Science Centre.

It’s no secret Xeno. and his supporters real agenda was to find a way to tax online casinos abroad, in an effort to offset the pokie tax $$$ they were losing from Aussie players who much preferred to try their luck online, in the comfort of their own homes, than sit in a local club, pub, or casino and play a limited range of ‘donation boxes’ with a below par RTP.

When it was decided that regulating the online gaming market was ‘too hard basket’, they sold out and made amendments that permitted fines to gambling establishments offering their services online to OZ players.

Well, we all know how that went.....

Whilst online venues with licenses from powerful licensing jurisdictions pulled out, other venues (several of them rogue, but thankfully some trustworthy ones) holding licenses from more flaccid licensing jurisdictions, namely Curaçao, moved in for the kill, immediately seeing an opportunity.

The Australian governments plan to keep gambling funds local has partially failed, because as we well know, people like myself, didn’t suddenly run for the nearest land based joint to get ‘a fix’. In fact, quite the opposite. Those of us that have become accustomed to playing online, will rarely settle for anything less, and so, we are still putting our money in online casinos abroad; but with considerably more caution.

It was never really about protecting problem gamblers and their families. That was the lie Xeno and his mates peddled to look like they actually gave a damn. To be fair though, Nick did appear to have some compassion and empathy towards problem gamblers, and it’s possible he became another politician puppet at the end of the day, feeling the pressure by his peers pushing the real agenda; who knows... Btw, whatever happened to the $1 max bet on pokies law he allegedly tried to pass for clubs and pubs a few years back; never happened, right?

One thing is certain, if our government legitimately cared about problem gambling online, they would start by closing down some of these sport book sites (or at least introduce bet and deposit limits). The amount of money going through online bookies such as Sportsbet for example, on a daily basis is just ridiculous - we are talking millions, but hey, that’s cool, because they pay tax to the OZ government. I recently read that a bill is being passed that will stop online sportbooks from making punters wager any winnings resulting from a free bet - an unassuming step forward, but a long way to go...

I look forward to the day when a politician with some legitimate backbone steps up and pushes for regulation of the online gaming market in Australia. So over these half witted self righteous know it alls in government, spinning lies and further limiting our constitutional right to making select lifestyle choices. Alas, likely a pipe dream.
 
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It's a very sad story. Such a waste of a young life.

Though, making it out like illegal online gambling is the 'evil doer' here, when, I'll bet, there are many more tragic stories like this, as a result of legal gambling from within our shores, highlights the inapt ability of most media institutions to seek out, and report on, the real truths.

In the beginning Xeno's crusade against "pokies", that drive seems to hold roots in a personal friend of his, apparently losing his house, marriage etc., to a gambling addiction. He really did seem to embrace a care factor to other Aussies caught in a "pokies" gambling addiction. But, like most politicians (not dissimilar to used car salespeople) closed door deals are made with their cronies. The Australian Hotelier's Association has been a fairly loud voice in condemning off-shore gambling, as have other groups which rely on home grown gambling to fuel profits.

The AU government makes a pretty penny from its regulated gambling industry. Just as it does from tobacco taxes.
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(average smoker will spend $10K a year, Tax will be approx 50% of that).

Seems politicians are more interested in finding sneaky ways to extract Tax, on already taxed income, than to actually realise that life evolves. I'm sure those who relied of horse-n-cart for their business, weren't too happy about automobiles. But progress continues. AU Department stores and such are not happy with the down turn in trade, but internet shopping is here to stay.

Prohibition doesn't work. Especially when your dictating what people can do or not do, with their own money.
 
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There is currently a plethora of gambling ads on TV - all relating to online Sports betting, e.g. Neds, Ladbrokes, Betfair, etc. etc. etc.

However, there is no possibility of either the ads or the sites themselves being banned, as the Australian Government itself has released a research paper on the impact of this advertising, which basically says - no problem. The link is:
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Part of the report states:
Online gamblers are also influenced by gambling advertising. One-tenth of Internet gamblers reported that marketing and promotions were critical to their initial uptake and 29% reported increased online gambling expenditure as a result of viewing promotions.

And the conclusion is:
Gambling advertising to date has not been found to motivate many people to commence gambling; however, it can increase gambling among existing gamblers... Advertisements have particular potential for harm if they reinforce inaccurate beliefs about gambling and increase gambling among people who are already heavy gamblers

Nothing to worry about then. No restrictions. No bans. No punitive measures to be taken. :rolleyes:

Could it have something to do with the fact that as Australia is a sports-mad nation, somehow sports betting is considered "acceptable"?

Or could it be that as the Melbourne Cup (for example) is one of the wealthiest horse races in the world - not only due to the actual prize money, but also because of the money won/lost due to the number of bets placed - the Sports lobby is simply too powerful for the government to challenge?

I hate to say this, but I strongly doubt even a rash of Sports Betting suicides will make any difference to the status quo, but will probably be passed off as 'just one of those things'.

Make of this what you will.
 

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There is currently a plethora of gambling ads on TV - all relating to online Sports betting, e.g. Neds, Ladbrokes, Betfair, etc. etc. etc.

However, there is no possibility of either the ads or the sites themselves being banned, as the Australian Government itself has released a research paper on the impact of this advertising, which basically says - no problem. The link is:
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Part of the report states:
Online gamblers are also influenced by gambling advertising. One-tenth of Internet gamblers reported that marketing and promotions were critical to their initial uptake and 29% reported increased online gambling expenditure as a result of viewing promotions.

And the conclusion is:
Gambling advertising to date has not been found to motivate many people to commence gambling; however, it can increase gambling among existing gamblers... Advertisements have particular potential for harm if they reinforce inaccurate beliefs about gambling and increase gambling among people who are already heavy gamblers

Nothing to worry about then. No restrictions. No bans. No punitive measures to be taken. :rolleyes:

Could it have something to do with the fact that as Australia is a sports-mad nation, somehow sports betting is considered "acceptable"?

Or could it be that as the Melbourne Cup (for example) is one of the wealthiest horse races in the world - not only due to the actual prize money, but also because of the money won/lost due to the number of bets placed - the Sports lobby is simply too powerful for the government to challenge?

I hate to say this, but I strongly doubt even a rash of Sports Betting suicides will make any difference to the status quo, but will probably be passed off as 'just one of those things'.

Make of this what you will.

AU government are such hypocrites :mad:
 
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