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Email Your Senators Re:Economic Stimulus Bill

Discussion in 'Political Rants' started by footdr, Feb 1, 2009.

    Feb 1, 2009
  1. footdr

    footdr Banned User: PITA violations of the Forum Rules

    The U.S. Senate will be debating and proposing changes to the House Stimulas Bill passed last week.

    The Bill contains rediculous expenditures that are not going to help Citizens/Taxpayers with the financial problems we are currently facing. Nor will it provide any real help for the self-employed and small business owners.

    It does not provide any provisions to stop arbitrary credit limit reductions that are having a MAJOR negative effect on Credit Scores; thereby destroying future ability to get loans, Mortgages and future credit!

    It does not change the present Bankruptcy Law that prohibits filing Bankruptcy on Student Loans. This allows the Rip-off Sallie Mae to garnish any future wages, unemployment benefits, filing of liens against the borrower or the co-signers(who by the way, currently have no legal rights when it comes to these loans). If recent Grads are unable to get a job or their job does not pay enough to make the INFLATED Preditory payments on these loans; there are no options!
    YET, Corporations repeatedly file Bankruptcy and reorganize AND recently our Tax dollars have been used to BAIL them out!

    Please let your Senators know that we are tired of our Tax Dollars being wasted and it is time that they put Individuals and Tax-payers FIRST!

    The Democrats point fingers at the Republican party for this Crisis, but this crisis actually began back in the Clinton administration. Also, the Democrats in office last year voted for the very legislation they are blaming the Republicans for.

    It is time we take back our Government.

    It is time we let them know we have had enough!

    Both Parties are at fault. Both Parties need to start working for the American Citizens, not the Lobbyists and Contributors to their Campaigns and the Political Parties.

  2. Feb 1, 2009
  3. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming

    I do nothing productive
    Hell on Earth
    Would you be so kind as to explain how these things you state have any relevance on creating Jobs?

    Every expert in the world (with the exception of those so called experts that got us into this mess - Remember 30 years of Ronald Regan's "trickle down economics" Well I haven't forgotten. Good Riddance to 30 years of bad Rubbish. ) have said that pumping money into the system is what is needed... Anything to create jobs... Hire people to count cracks in the sidewalk will have a greater effect on creating Jobs than anything the predatory credit card companies can or will do.

    LOL we already did... It was just the 20th of last month...
    Now the people, not big business are back in charge, as it should be.
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  4. Feb 2, 2009
  5. footdr

    footdr Banned User: PITA violations of the Forum Rules

    TO THE THE SHEEPLE........

    Do you actually believe that all that is need is to create more jobs?

    Small Business employees are a good majority of this Countries Workers. Would you like Small business to be provided the same help as the Large Corporation so that they can continue to provide jobs? Do you have any idea what so ever how much money the American worker has lost in the value of their Profit Sharing and Retirement Accounts due to the fact that their Employers believed that investing in American Companies and Stocks was a wise investment? In fact this is what are Government is trying to stimulate; investing in American Companies, Stocks and gaining the trust of investors. How many Small Business Profit Sharing Plans are going to be able to do that without help recouping their losses; an inability to acquire credit?
    Do you even get it?

    Do you know that it won't matter how much funding they provide to help people get Mortgages and buy homes or for that matter qualify to refinance their homes with the Government subsidizing provided by this Plan is WHEN THEY CAN NOT QUALIFY, their savings accounts wiped out and their Retirement accounts devalued

    Do you know that the Clinton Administration(yes Democrat, but it doesn't matter who started this mess) is who pushed for subprime lending and inf act the first Financial Lender had to be bailed out due to this during the Clinton Administration. Look it up.

    The Democrats are not doing ANYTHING different than the Republicans are accused of doing in the past. The Legislation that was passed included too much funding for creation of jobs that will not happen for several years and are very occupation specific. I.E. your out of work so do you want to go build roads. In my State Texas, most road workers are Hispanic are probably Illegal workers from Mexico. That doesn't bother me because to be honest I don't know any U.S. Citizen fighting for those jobs. Working on roads in 80 -100 degree temperatures is not that appealing. And lets not forget rebuilding our bridges and water systems, sewage systems etc. Gee do you have the experience to do those jobs. And for that matter how many people have recently been layed off from those jobs? I would say not many as the funding for those jobs does not come from private sources but from Municipal Bonds(ok, maybe it is possible for some small cities to go belly up), Taxes, Government Funding

    Stem Cell Research? great for possibly 1000 comprised of lab technicians, Hematologist and other Medical Specialists. Once they find a solution our tax dollars will go for a couple of years of investigation before the Government approves the procedure; if in fact they do. As you know there is much debate on whether this reseach should even be allowed!

    The goal should be helping the unemployed find jobs and providing unemployment compensation until they do so.

    By assisting Employers to assure they have financing to keep their Businesses afloat we stop further layoffs.

    And if you do not see the problem with a Citizen who has been lended money for College(when by the way they should have help by their state or fed goverment to begin with as was in place in the 70s and as provided by for example Argentina who educates their population through College at the Gov. expense) and is not given the right to protect their future earnings through Bankruptcy; then I can only hope you or your child experience this first hand as a large portion of our Population is.

    So, you can either have a viable Citizen who works, buys a vehicle, rents or owns a place to live and raises a family and pays taxes; or you can have that Citizen working solely to give an unethical Predatory lender their earnings. Corporations meerly file Bankruptcy leaving their creditors and suppliers high and dry, reorganizes and continues along their merry way at the expese of our Tax Dollars. And now whe given them Billions of dollars to compensate for their financial blunders!

    The Stimuls is not just aimed at creating jobs, research it for Gods Sake!. Creating jobs is only one of the pieces to this puzzle. But what ever they do needs to put money into the hands of Employers, Consumers and Retirees not invested in programs that may or may not help us in 2-10 year and after it is to late to help our Businesses and Taxpayers get through this Crisis that they did not create. We can think about that once we take care of more emergent needs of our Citizens.

    If we do not maintain individuals creditworthiness and ability to earn by keeping people in their jobs then all we will be doing is playing "Catch-up" And Consumers will have no money to pump into the Economy.

    Please don't be a Sheeple. Please read the bills and all that you can so that you truly understand the effect or lack of effect this Bill will have on Us and future generations.
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2009
  6. Feb 2, 2009
  7. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming

    I do nothing productive
    Hell on Earth
    Yes I do.

    Pump money into the system... That is all it's gonna take.

    BTW - I am not alone in thinking this way.
    The majority of people at the recent economic summit in Davos agreed with me.

    people like... Sir Richard Branson, Bill Gates, George Soros and about a hundred of the biggest private fund managers.

    The problem is people that that don't really understand the problems try to lump them all together.

    There are the Economic problems.

    Then there are the Credit Problems.

    Two different animals with two totally different solutions.

    The way to fix the Economic problems is to pump money into the system, There is not any disagreement on this between the conservatives and the liberals. All they disagree about is how to do it.

    The way to fix the credit problems is any ones guess.
    I would think that the Banks are just going to have to bite the bullet and take the losses... they should end up settling for about $0.22 on the $1.00.

    But lets face the facts... 30 years of Ronald Regan's Trickle Down Economics and his War on Labor has just about destroyed our country and the World. And Ya Bill Clinton was a big Supporter of Ronald Regan's policies, even though he called himself a Democrat.

    If you want to see a real Liberal in action just watch Obama go.
    The people have spoken and they say, it's time to give Liberal policies a chance to fix the screwups of the conservative policies of the past 30 years.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2009
  8. Feb 3, 2009
  9. footdr

    footdr Banned User: PITA violations of the Forum Rules


    Sorry but I believe Pumping money into the Economy entails much more than creating jobs for the unemployed.

    It needs to include tax credits for Small Business, College expenses, AND making loans available for Business startup, expansion, equipment, etc.

    Obviously if you are going to give Financial Institutions money to keep them solvent then there should be provisions in place on how they spend it and it shouldn't include SCREWING their current Customers and demanding thousands of dollars to be payed off with no notice.

    Sorry, but not all Economists agree on how to stimulate the Economy.

    I dont see how rebuilding our Infastruction is going to assist those who were in White Collar jobs or those Small Business owners who are being forced to go out of business.

    Obviously you are a Democrat, what ever that means these days. I on the other hand do not vote straight ticket any longer as I would rather put my trust in individual Candidates and their past track record in Government versus a Political party. To attempt to blame this mess on either Party is a cop-out. We are in this mess because the System is broken. It is too big and has too much power over the States and too much control over the economy.They are no longer accountable to Citizens and go unchecked.

    Sub-prime mortgages were not the only problem with mortgage lending. I sold real estate. 95-100% financing and "Creative Financing by Builders and Lenders is also a major cause of the problem as they put many into homes they couldn't really afford.

    The Health Care system was destroyed with the creation of PPO and HMO's and the greed of Health Insurance Companies that go unchecked by law. Under the Sherman act they are allowed to work together to fix reimbursements and set Premiums. There are no laws regarding the premiums they can charge. There are no laws regarding how much the will pay for each medical/surgical service. Since my Husband is a Podiatrist and does alot of Surgery; I can tell you that there are some patients that we receive less than it costs to treat them. This is why many Doctors are leaving practice.

    More people could afford health insurance if their Premiums and medical expenses were fully deductible from their Gross Income. Thats one thing that can be done and have an immediate positive effect.
  10. Feb 4, 2009
  11. bryand

    bryand Beach Bum

    Just Across the Hudson River
    Being in the mortgage securitization field I believe mortgage-backed securities need to be unwound in order to stabilize the global economy. I penned the plan below in November but could not get anyone in government to respond to my emails.

    Put simply, the government should allocate the "bailout" money to US taxpayers that have qualified secured debt (as defined under the Bankruptcy Code). Persons receiving such allocation would have to pay it back in 5 to 7 years at 3% interest (which would cover the government's debt service for new bonds issued). This plan would serve many purposes: (1) repay most securitized bonds (thereby relieving pressure from China and Japan), (2) render the banks solvent, (3) create immediate lending capitol for real estate and autos, (4) halt most foreclosures and (5) allow time for real estate prices to rise normally.

    An Alternate Proposal for Immediate Stabilization of
    Americas Current Economic Situation

    Basic Plan Outline

    An agency is created by Congress (the Loan Participation Commission), with its sole purpose being to facilitate this plan.

    USA raises $1.4 trillion by issuing 7-year treasury bonds at market interest rate.

    $1.4 trillion is apportioned among all Participants according to the Participation Formula.

    Each Participant must sign a Promissory Note and Security Agreement in favor of USA.

    Each Participants allocation is divided among, and paid directly to, the Participants Eligible Creditors according to the Allocation Guidelines.

    All funds received by any Eligible Creditor under this plan must be applied to Qualified Debt principal and without any prepayment penalty or need for defeasance, regardless of any provision to the contrary contained in any loan document relative to such Qualified Debt.

    Any company that received financial assistance through the $700 billion bailout immediately repays such financial assistance (including but not limited to Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and AIG).

    Mortgage-backed securities are paid, securitization pools are unwound and related payment guaranties are dissolved.


    Allocation Guidelines means provisions in the current US Federal Bankruptcy Code regarding priority of payments to creditors, excluding debts owed to governmental entities.

    Eligible Creditor means any bank, savings and loan, credit union or finance company that would qualify as a secured creditor of Participant under the current US Federal Bankruptcy Code.

    Participant means any Person that (i) filed at least one (1) US federal income tax return for any year within the Qualifying Period and (ii) voluntarily elects to participate in this plan.

    Participation Formula means, for any Participant, a fraction with the numerator (Average Taxable Income) being the sum of such Participants net taxable income as reported on all US federal tax returns on file with the Internal Revenue Service for the Qualifying Period divided by the number of tax returns used to compute such total net taxable income, and the denominator being the sum of Average Taxable Income for all Participants.

    Person means any (i) individual issued a social security number or (ii) any corporation, partnership, company, firm or other entity issued a federal tax identification number by the Internal Revenue Service.

    Promissory Note means a 7-year, interest only, promissory note from Participant to the US equal to the actual amount realized by such Participant under this plan. For all Participants, the annual, fixed interest rate will be 500 basis points above the market interest rate for treasury bonds as referenced above.

    Qualified Debt means, for any Participant, all current debt owed to Eligible Creditors.

    Qualifying Period means the 5-year period beginning January 1, 2003 and ending December 30, 2007.

    Security Agreement means a security agreement from Participant in favor of the US that defines Participants encumbered collateral (that is, any collateral presently secured by Qualified Debt being paid through this plan). As a practical matter, the Loan Participation Commission should be consulted for payoff information, if any, prior to closing the sale real property and personal property valued greater that some preset threshold.
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  12. Feb 4, 2009
  13. cynthial

    cynthial Boo

    Wow! Here is a man with a plan. You have really put some thought into this. I am far from an expert in Economics but your ideas sound plausible to little ole me.

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  14. Feb 4, 2009
  15. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming

    I do nothing productive
    Hell on Earth
    No need to be sorry... and I never said they did.

    If you don't see how small business is going to benefit from the rebuilding/improving of our INFRASTRUCTURE, maybe you should read a little Adam Smith, or better yet just take a high school economics class. Also try changing the Channel off of faux news... Try the BBC, NPR or CNBC for a change.

    Your wrong. I'm an Independent. I Supported Dr. Ron Paul for President.
    BTW - Dr. Paul predicted this financial crash way back in 2006.

    The health care system and the Financial system were both destroyed by the same thing... Unchecked, Unregulated GREED.

    Oh I agree both parties are to blame... But one party ran things for the last 8 out of 10 years and opened up the system to any corrupt transaction as long as one of the 'good ole boys' got paid.

    One party (Republicans) also created 'K" street. The central location for Washington Lobbyists who had a pocket full of money to 'give' elected politicians for 'favors'.

    What really amazes me is all the effort by some to defend the conservative financial record that led us to this recession/depression (Trickle Down Economics) and there are even those that want to continue the failed financial and political policies that got us here... Simply F'n Amazing.
  16. Feb 5, 2009
  17. footdr

    footdr Banned User: PITA violations of the Forum Rules


    I have read everything Ron Paul has written and every speech/testimony he has given.

    The problems with the Economy and the Government were discussed by Ron Paul in the Late 70's. Everything he said needed to be done still needs to be done.

    Most of my previous statements are also points that Congressman Paul agrees with.

    I have a B.S. in Medical Administration, a Minor in Biology, a Real Estate License, worked in Administration for the Veterans Administration Hospitals and Managed several Podiatry Practices.

    I took numerous Economics courses in College. I have gained my knowledge from numerous sources including those I was involved in through my various job positions.

    Fortunately, it appears the Senate and the News Media are finally addressing many of my concerns in regards to the Simulus legislation.
  18. Feb 8, 2009
  19. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming

    I do nothing productive
    Hell on Earth
    Well you won't see this video on faux news.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    I have not read everything Dr. Paul has ever written. But I am perdy sure that he was against the way the Republicans Ran the Government into debt, the lobbyist ass kissing and the violations of the Constitution all perpetrated by the Republican Bush Administration.

    I don't agree with everything Obama is doing. But at least he doing something instead of sitting on his thumbs and watching the country go down, like the last president.

    Good leaders... Lead and make their decisions work... poor leaders never make a decision and when something goes wrong they start pointing fingers (I don't know about you, but I am real tired of decades of poor leaders).

    Not to mention that unlike our last several presidents, Obama has so far done what he said he would after he was elected. On that alone I'll vote for him next election, a politico that does what they say they will... simply Fn amazing and worth his weight in gold.

    One last thing, if this Financial Stimulus Plan fails, are you going to blame the people that delayed when others were crying for haste or will you blame the folks that were afraid to spend money when experts were crying for more money to get the economy going? Or will you blame the man that was out front working and trying to fix the problem and trying to make a bad situation better?
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2009
  20. Feb 8, 2009
  21. bryand

    bryand Beach Bum

    Just Across the Hudson River
    ;) Note to footdr: Don't waste time - you're in a debate that's impossible to win.
  22. Feb 8, 2009
  23. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

    Who knows?
    A Vault!
    Damn, what a great debate here guys...excellent points are being made on both sides. How the heck did I manage to miss all of this until just now ?? :thumbsup:
  24. Feb 9, 2009
  25. littlebit

    littlebit Dormant account

    Jack of all trades
    Pasadena, Texas
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Be sure to take a look at the Least Critical parts of the proposed package.

    Supposedly this site is updated every 10 minutes so at least it's a source of what is being proposed or close to it :>)
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  26. Feb 9, 2009
  27. cynthial

    cynthial Boo

    Thanks Littlebit. I spent a bit of time reading it but got a bit sick to my stomach.

    The very first one I read was an earmark for $99,600 for Doorbells to be installed at a housing project/complex. Umm, No!

    Over 418 MILLION dollars for a Sheraton Hotel with convention/arena space in downtown Albuquerque? Let Sheraton build their own GDed hotel! And we already have a convention center here that was paid for by our taxes with the promise of the great tourism dollars it would attract. It is still underwhelming us today in that regard. Ummm, NO!

    375 Million Dollars for a performing arts center in Las Vegas of all places. I do not even need to read further. Umm, NO!

    Some of these requests are just out of this world. Some have merit but should be funded locally and others are so obviously "Pet" projects of one special interest group or another.

    Boy oh boy, how are we going to pay for all of this?
    Show some sanity and some restraint with our purse strings please.
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  28. Feb 10, 2009
  29. bryand

    bryand Beach Bum

    Just Across the Hudson River
    My thoughts exactly.

    From liberals: "At least Obama is doing something about the problem!" ;)
  30. Mar 7, 2010
  31. bryand

    bryand Beach Bum

    Just Across the Hudson River
    If only Tim Geithner would listen to reason...

    The economic spending bill, TARP program and various job bills passed since 2008 may have averted a 'global financial meltdown' (if in fact such meltdown was imminent) but have not caused the economic recovery upon which we were sold - especially in the jobs and residential real estate market.

    The logic behind these economic stimulus bills is flawed. The government essentially lent huge sums of money to Wall Street firms, other financial institutions and US auto manufacturers. The money should have been lent to Americans to pay off securitized loans!

    Now the US faces a situation in the commercial real estate market similar to the subprime mortgage crises. Many commercial real estate loans are pooled (securitized) and converted into bonds just like residential mortgage-backed securities. The general economic downturn is affecting commercial developers increasing their loan default rate. As I suggested in my post quoted below, these soon-to-be toxic assets need to be unwound quickly to avert a deepening recession.

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  32. Mar 7, 2010
  33. kauphy

    kauphy Meister Member

    lol i find that funny that you say the people r back in charge since when. if you keep up on things you will find that we r not in charge and r still fighting to take back our country. i know caz i,m in the fight every single day trying to stop big goverment from ramming things that we don,t need or don,t want down r thorts. and don,t even tell me that you listen to the news they r so one sided its not funny anything for the wheel of power that is obama,reed and polisk. so many people have their heads buryed in the sand that when they do wake up to whats really going on it will be 2 late and they will have no rights lifted and it will be hitler all over again. yes i know alot of people will read this and shake their heads and say to them selfs that girl is off the deep end it is not that bad but yes it is and if people don,t start standing up now and let the goverment know we r not going to take it anymore it will be to late. its for the people by the people not for the goverment by the goverment. and i don,t care when it started or whos to blame or who was in the white house when it started to much with the blame game anyway we won,t let r kids get away with blameing someone eles why r we letting the goverment get away with pointing fingers. instead of pointing fingers and saying they r to blame not us why don,t they just try to fix whats broken and say see we got the job done the way the american people wanted. not the way we think it should be but the way the american people wanted. enough is enough and people need to stand up now not wait until its 2 late. thanks for letting me rant.:) by the way did anyone see where reed came on t.v and said that only 36,000 jobs were lost and that was a good thing gezzz i bet the 36,000 people who lost their jobs don,t think it was a good thing. i bet he won,t think that when come nov hes voted out of office and loses he big fat paycheck. oh wait he still gets how much for retriment?
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  34. Mar 8, 2010
  35. rockycatt

    rockycatt meistercatt

    in a nut shell

    What the hell happened -
    545 people vs 300 million people

    Charlie Reese, a retired reporter for the Orlando Sentinal has hit the nail

    directly on the head, defining clearly who it is that in the final analysis must

    assume responsibility for the judgements made that impact each one of us every day.

    It's a short but good read. Worth the time. Worth remembering!

    545 vs. 300,000,000


    Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years.
    545 PEOPLE --By Charlie Reese

    Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them..

    Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

    Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.

    You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

    You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

    You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

    You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

    Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits..... The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

    The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi. She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

    If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red ..

    If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ

    If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

    There are no insoluble government problems.

    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

    They, and they alone, have the power..

    They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

    Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees...

    We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

    Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

    What you do with this article now that you have read it........ Is up to you.
    This might be funny if it weren't so darned true.
    Be sure to read all the way to the end:
    Tax his land,
    Tax his bed,
    Tax the table,
    At which he's fed.

    Tax his tractor,
    Tax his mule,
    Teach him taxes
    Are the rule.
    Tax his work,
    Tax his pay,
    He works for peanuts

    Tax his cow,
    Tax his goat,
    Tax his pants,
    Tax his coat.

    Tax his ties,
    Tax his shirt,
    Tax his work,
    Tax his dirt.

    Tax his tobacco,
    Tax his drink,
    Tax him if he
    Tries to think..

    Tax his cigars,
    Tax his beers,
    If he cries
    Tax his tears.

    Tax his car,
    Tax his gas,
    Find other ways
    To tax his ass.

    Tax all he has
    Then let him know
    That you won't be done
    Till he has no dough.

    When he screams and hollers;
    Then tax him some more,
    Tax him till
    He's good and sore.
    Then tax his coffin,
    Tax his grave,
    Tax the sod in
    Which he's laid...

    Put these words
    Upon his tomb,
    Taxes drove me
    to my doom...'

    When he's gone,
    Do not relax,
    Its time to apply
    The inheritance tax..
    Accounts Receivable Tax
    Building Permit Tax
    CDL license Tax
    Cigarette Tax
    Corporate Income Tax
    Dog License Tax
    Excise Taxes
    Federal Income Tax
    Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
    Fishing License Tax
    Food License Tax
    Fuel Permit Tax
    Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
    Gross Receipts Tax
    Hunting License Tax
    Inheritance Tax
    Inventory Tax
    IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
    Liquor Tax
    Luxury Taxes
    Marriage License Tax
    Medicare Tax
    Personal Property Tax
    Property Tax
    Real Estate Tax
    Service Charge Tax
    Social Security Tax
    Road Usage Tax
    Recreational Vehicle Tax
    Sales Tax
    School Tax
    State Income Tax
    State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
    Telephone Federal Excise Tax
    Telephone Federal Universal Service FeeTax
    Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
    Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
    Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
    Telephone State and Local Tax
    Telephone Usage Charge Tax
    Utility Taxes
    Vehicle License Registration Tax
    Vehicle Sales Tax
    Watercraft Registration Tax
    Well Permit Tax
    Workers Compensation Tax
    STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

    What in the hell happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'

    I hope this goes around THE USA at least 100 times!!! YOU can help it get there!!!

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  36. Mar 8, 2010
  37. gloria460

    gloria460 Meister Member

    It is truly amazing to me that people don't take any responsibility for this mess that we're in. Numerous people foreclosed on their mortgages knowing full well they couldn't afford their homes. Instead of trying to work with the banks they walked away.

    If we're to fix this country everyone needs to take responsibility for their actions. How many people have actually read the whole bill which I belive is over 300 pages. To be credible we must be fair in our judgement of the given situation.

    I support whatever president is in office and would hope that congress, the senate and house support him. Wouldn't it be wonderful if they all could sit down and work out reasonable solutions to our problems instead of trying to score political points and get perks for their own states.

    It takes guts to do what's not popular.
  38. Mar 8, 2010
  39. felicie

    felicie Dormant account

    self employed
    somewhere else
    You can keep "the change"

    So, Let's Recap
    "2009"...what a year!

    1. The American people inaugurate a half-arab president with a total of 142 days experience as a US Senator from the most politically corrupt city/state in America whose governors have been ousted from office, and his first official act is to order the close of Gitmo and make sure terrorists civil rights are not violated.

    2. The U.S. Congress rushes to confirm Attorney General, Eric Holder, whose law firm we later find out represents seventeen Gitmo terrorists.

    3. The CIA boss appointee, Leon Panetta, has absolutely no experience, has a daughter Linda, we find out, who is a true radical anti-American activist and a supporter of all the Anti-American
    regimes in the western hemisphere.

    4. We got the second most corrupt American woman (Pelosi is #1) as Secretary of State; bought and paid for. (You can put lipstick on a pig, but it still stinks!)

    5. We got a tax Cheat for Treasury Secretary who did not properly file his own taxes for 12 years. (He misspoke!)

    6. A Commerce Secretary nominee who withdrew due to corruption charges. (Another honest mistake???)

    7. A Tax cheat nominee for Chief Performance Officer who withdrew under charges. (Hmmm... another screw-up?)

    8. A Labor secretary nominee who withdrew under charges of unethical conduct. (Ok, maybe this person was just plain stupid.)

    9. A secretary HHS nominee (Daschle) who withdrew under charges of cheating on his
    taxes. (I'm running out of excuses for these idiots!!)

    10. Multiple appointments of former
    lobbyists after an absolute campaign statement that no lobbyists would be
    appointed. (Dear God, I am getting a headache!)

    All this occurred just during the first three weeks. . . but who's counting?

    America is being run by the modern-day Three Stooges; Barry, Nancy and Harry and they are still trying to define stimulus..."it's spending!"

    The congress passes the $800,000,000,000 (that's $800 billion) pork-loaded spending bill where the government gives you a smidgen of your tax dollars ($13 per week), making you feel so good about yourself [stimulated], that you want to run out to Wal-Mart and buy a new Chinese-made HDTV!

    Here's the good news though:

    1. Obama took Air Force One to Denver to sign the stimulus package, and failed, wasting as much as 10,000 gallons of fuel OR 24 JOBS FOR ONE YEAR.

    2. Obama went to the International Olympic Committee to have them choose Chicago
    for a host city and failed.

    3. Obama went to Copenhagen to lecture them on global warming and failed.

    4. Obama went to New Jersey to promote the Democratic candidate for governor and failed.

    5. Obama went to Virginia to promote the Democratic candidate for governor and failed.

    6. Obama went to Massachusetts to promote the Democratic candidate for senator and failed.

    7. Speaking of praying, Obama has now been president for a full year and yet he & wife (first lady) Michelle, the Christian family they claim to be, have not attended church since the inauguration.

    8. Obama is the 1st president in history who did not attend any Christmas religious

    9. He must miss Reverend Wright!

    10. And finally, he is the 1st president to remain on vacation after a terrorist attack.

    In these times 'I'll keep my God, my freedom, my gun and my money. Anyone who supports this insanity can keep "THE CHANGE"..... GOD 'HELP' AMERICA ....
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