Early Look at Evolution Crazy Time

ChopleyIOM

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I am being called out for getting best strategy wrong on this game. Basically I said it's best to cover everything as the number bets have the highest RTP, so you're increasing your overall RTP by covering those bets as well, even though the '1' only returns 2x stake (without a multiplier) so on a £8 bet like I was making in the video, a 'win' from a 1 still represents a loss.

Am I getting it wrong?

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danofthewibble

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I am being called out for getting best strategy wrong on this game. Basically I said it's best to cover everything as the number bets have the highest RTP, so you're increasing your overall RTP by covering those bets as well, even though the '1' only returns 2x stake (without a multiplier) so on a £8 bet like I was making in the video, a 'win' from a 1 still represents a loss.

Am I getting it wrong?

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It's certainly the same strategy I'd take when I get bonuses to play this game. It is still a loss, but I prefer to cover all bases when it's affordable (i.e. 10p stakes). as ultimately every spin will guarantee a return. Which is good for wagering, if not the overall balance.
 

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I am being called out for getting best strategy wrong on this game. Basically I said it's best to cover everything as the number bets have the highest RTP, so you're increasing your overall RTP by covering those bets as well, even though the '1' only returns 2x stake (without a multiplier) so on a £8 bet like I was making in the video, a 'win' from a 1 still represents a loss.

Am I getting it wrong?

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No idea what best strategy is.

I do know that the times I play that and monopoly etc. I just cover the bonuses and 10 and sometimes 5.

Just think that covering 1 or 2 with the small return is waste of money.
 

ChopleyIOM

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For some reason I'm having trouble getting my head around it.

Ultimately all the bets are losing bets as the RTP is under 100%, my logic is that the number bets (and specifically the 1) have the highest RTPs, so your overall RTP is increased by covering those numbers, even though the potential rate of loss is increased, but does that even make sense?

And then it's muddied by the fact that the multiplier can apply to anything, and that goes up to 50x.

Plus a winning bet returns the stake as well, so even a basic unmodified 1 returns 2x the bet on the 1, although with me covering all eight results with £1 each like I did last night, an £8 bet returns £2 in that scenario, for a loss of £6.

It's annoying me now, this shouldn't be so hard to work out.....
 

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You jammy sod:laugh:

But yeah the chat can be vile at times to the hosts.
I hate seeing the chat sometimes. It’s bang out of order how those hosts are treated. I remember one dark haired girl looking like she was about to have a breakdown.

Do the thick twats placing bets really believe it’s the host’s fault that the game isn’t paying out at that time?!
 

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@ChopleyIOM

I might be wrong but maybe the best way is to count the amount of segments each prize/odds has?

For example.

For 1x to be exactly break even it would have to appear on 27 segments for true even money odds.

Now obviously then rtp is 95.5% theoretically. so it will not have more than 25/26 1x spots. Factor in the multiplier bonus I would be think there would be 20 or so 1x slots.
It gets complicated after that, you realistically would need to observe at least 10000 or so spins to get a very rough idea how many times a multi will connect first off and secondly, more importantly how many times the prize in question hits.


Could be way off on my thinking here but based on that. Betting 1,2,5x are theoretically going to pay the lower or worse rtp overall due to needing more hits at a much higher frequency.



Note this whole post could be bollocks. Just thinking off the top of my head.
 

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Had a bit of a dire run on this game last night, bloody thing took £350 off me over the course of a couple of hours.

I tried a couple of different betting strategies, neither of which were betting on the 1, and the wheel went on a truly appalling run of hitting 1, and nowhere near the expected feature frequency.

The strategy I stuck with longest was simply betting a single £1 chip on 5, 10 and the four features for a total bet per round of £6, and the wheel just kept hitting 1 and 2 for a total loss of my stake on those rounds, and the features that did land paid shite.

In the end I just got fed up with it and withdrew my remaining balance out of Unibet - definitely a game to be careful of if it's running badly!

The Pachinko bonus round is a lot less exciting once you realise how they set it up to give a shit pay, so can tell immediately that it's going to be a crap one.
 

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@ChopleyIOM All these wheel games seem the same to me.... not a fan - but you do get huge payouts.
Monpoly live on hills - i got £10 free - 10x wagering on their bonus drop couple of months back. Just put £1 on 2 spins, £1 on 4 spins. Hit 4 spins for 240x, and then just looked to finish wagering. Cashed over £200,

I thought best strategy was to bet different amounts on each feature according to likely payout. So less on crazy time but more on coin flip type of approach.......
 

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I thought best strategy was to bet different amounts on each feature according to likely payout. So less on crazy time but more on coin flip type of approach.......
Yeah that's what I do, I think in the long run its a lot better to bet more on certain segments than others.
 

ChopleyIOM

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Well in the long run what's going to happen is T-RTP, so all bets are basically losers in the end :)

All you can really do with a betting strategy is change the volatility. (Martingale on roulette being an extreme example of that.)

Someone left a comment on my video about Crazy Time saying he bets 4x on the 2, 2x on the 5 and 10, and 1x on the four features, that means the only losing spin is a 1, with 2 and 5 returning the stake, 10 paying back double the bet, and the features paying whatever they pay. That actually seemed to work well for a bit but a dead run on 1s (which is what happened) gets pretty painful.

I think I actually prefer the Monopoly wheel game overall, it's a lot less volatile as it doesn't multiply very often (that has to come off the rather rare Chance), and not betting on 1 and 5 is a no-brainer as they have shit RTP, also there are only two feature bets to cover.

On Crazy Time the 1 and 2 account for over half the wheel, and they have a solid RTP too, but they're still a pretty crap bet to be making.

To be clear I'm not complaining about my luck overall, it was still a £750 withdrawal from a £60 deposit that lasted well over a week, and I had that bonkers £640 hit on Crazy Time the other night, but last night it was playing terribly and I just got fed up with it.
 
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