don't know how to stop

Tell him, Winbig.

He is obviously using this forum to vent, while wanting to continue on his destructive path.

He needs major league help, way beyond what the folks on this forum can give him. It would be best to just ignore him, then maybe he would actually go and find the help he so obviously needs.

I don't usually agree with Jod's crass ways, but in this instance, he/she is making alot of sense. I agree!
 
YO! ilosetoomuch!

Reality chech my man! Listen up - and listen close! This advise is comming from a fellow gambler who has been down your past! I have wagered away relationships, house, cars and whatever you like - I been there - I done it!

What you need to do, willing or not, except the fact that you cannot win back whatever you lost - not even a penn! It's all lost! At this point in your life you are screwed - atleast it feels that way - and any attempt to win back more will only screw you even more since your mind is already clouded with greed and emptyness at the same time! Think of it as a large grey stuffyness that makes you all sad...

You need to accept - you have the problem - the casinobusiness are just there to prey on people like you - AND ME - if they don't some other will so don't blame them! In the end it's only you!

Fuck - I lost almost a million dollars on gambling - Only I can see my own light!

Finally and firther more - Life sucks horseballs! I know! That sorry ass huge win you and me are looking for never comes anyways, and ironically if it does - it ain't good enough! We just go for a bigger one and put ourself back at where we started!

Welcome to the world of compulsive gambling Mr. - So get your sorry ass out of the chair, accept responsibility and get out in fresh air!

heck, maby your marriage is bad - divorce and find other pleasures in life, gambling is under any circumstances no way to "handle bad times".

Thumbs up! Hope you get there bro!
 
I said I got money back from other places that new they did wrong..
This I do not understand..the casino did not put a gun to your head or come knocking at your door forcing you to play.....but yet you blame them and demand your money back...after LOSING, and they comply,this is not kosher at all..

I haven't posted the name of the casino because I wanted to see what they would say to me and also if I read the terms correctly from PAB if you mention it out in the forum, you might not be able to PAB.. I want to PAB so that this casino learns a lesson. I don't think it should be freely advertising here...
I am getting the feeling that you won't post this casinos name becasue you are in the midst of trying to make them give you your money back by blackmailing them with this forum. This is my reading of what you are protesting about so vehemently otherwise you would have already named this casino as you stated LAST WEEK! I also feel you are not looking for help, just a handout...to continue to play...

If I am wrong, apologies in advance....but because I have been there, done it, and have hit rock bottom many years ago and know when one is being somewhat untruthful...this is the feeling I am getting from your focused demands on this ONE casino who has NOT complied with your wishes, what ever they were which you are NOT telling...because others have blocked you and then allowed you to play and you have gone after them without PAB and they did as you demanded (returnedyour money),.so....

Why not just uninstall it and forget about it?


tim5ny: Pffft!
I said this becasue it seems ilosetoomuch is so focused on this ONE single casino...whereas he/she has stated the others have given his money back. I was asking why the need for this ONE casino to be the ONLY one he has focused on? Just because they allowed him to play as the others has he/she said, but they eventually gave him/her his money back except this one.....that he is threatening to PAB about...
 
I could be wrong, but I don't know where I wrote that I wanted/expected my money back.. obviously I would like to have it back, but I don't see where I wrote that.. I said I got money back from other places that new they did wrong..

I haven't posted the name of the casino because I wanted to see what they would say to me and also if I read the terms correctly from PAB if you mention it out in the forum, you might not be able to PAB.. I want to PAB so that this casino learns a lesson. I don't think it should be freely advertising here...

and for those who say it's as easy as uninstalling a software and walking away. obviously you don't have a problem and have control.

I !@$@ up again and played again the other day. I am here for support, not for someone to criticize me. Please have the respect to only post to help me out rather than attack... for anyone who's going to post something that is stating the obvious like uninstalling the software, just don't... I need to keep my mind off of it, and I need other people's advice/experiences on how to stop...


Here is my advice for what it is worth. I have worked in the industry for over 8 years now. I have been where you are now, as I no doubt others who visit this forum have. Over 5 years ago when I worked for Ladbrokes, I opened an account with William Hills Casino and proceeded to gamble away nigh on $10k. This was money I could not afford to lose, and the majority of it was funded by a bank loan I took out to feed my gambling addiction.

What I did to turn this around, was to tell my girlfriend my now wife. She nearly left me over it. That is how serious the problem I had with gambling became. It was even more difficult to stop when I was surrounded by it on a day to day basis, what with working for an online poker/casino and sportsbook operation.

Once I told Keely, I then gave her access to my internet banking facility with my bank. She opened up all my correspondence from the bank and she helped me sort myself out. To the point now, whereby I never ever ever get into debt when I gamble. I only gamble, what I can afford to lose and I never ever chase my losses.

She is still not happy about me gambling even 1 cent, but realises as an affiliate webmaster it comes with the territory.

You need to tell your wife/girlfriend about the extent of your problem. Not just for your sake, but for her sake and more importantly for your son's sake. She can help you get over this addiction and reclaim your life. You sound like you have a lot to live for, don't ruin it all.

It is hard. Very hard. But you can overcome it. Out of interest, if you are still having problems with the casino concerned not closing your account, send me a PM and let me know. I know you have sent a PAB, but I also know Bryan is enroute to Barca. I would more than gladly phone them up and discuss the situation with them.

Best of luck and keep us posted on how you are doing.
 
Main Site -Quit Gambling

This forum offers a link to many of us that have been there and done it...and our ways to control this urge that has and will destroy you..please read them and pick and choose from it if you are serious about quitting or reducing your play..here is mine and as I said, it took hitting bottom before I realized that I had one gift given to me that I did not use..freewill...I gave this over to gambling and refused to take the blame...but yet..I knew it wasn't anyone fault except mine. Once I admitted this...I had my first "lightbulb" moment..then I ran with it:
I have learned to moderate my gambling with the attitude of , tomorrow will also be another day. I didn't quit, for I have tried and the urge was even more powerful, so I knew that I had to do something for myself and that was to get a hold of it as tightly as it held me.

Now, when I play online, I have a goal to reach and if it is reached, I cashout. If I lose, I log off and play in fun mode for "practice" until I feel the urge is gone (boredom sets in and I leave the computer.) this is my way to control my gambling for I know I have tried all other courses, and I know I DON'T WANT HELP for I like to gamble more than I want to quit.

But I knew there must be a medium somewhere and I learned to control myself this way. I fall off the wagon every once in a while (when I have a large win and play most of it back at times which infuriates me) but it has happened less and less to almost once ever 10 withdrawals, which is acceptable to me for I am still ahead on withdrawals since I implemented this pattern ten years ago.

They say if you do it for 21 days (repetition of play) then you have a pattern set and a mind change. It took me 30 days to set my pattern.

I learned to spend more time with my husband this way, knowing if I blow my stash in one go..I am outta there!

I hope you can find that medium to control the urges to play online, for it is truly an awful thing to live with at times, but it also can be more enjoyable when you get to control IT rather than let it control you.

We all have choices and to choose to master this, you must believe you are the stronger of the two.
 
She nearly left me over it. That is how serious the problem I had with gambling became.



That is the real problem....lol
She ALMOST left him.....she didnt thou.....thats what he'is maybe complaining about:rolleyes:
Just kiddin......
 
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I am just really totally confused, :confused: most of us have been down this path and some of us are still are trying to get out, ilossetomuch knows he has a problem and is trying his best to get help, he admitted he is a compulsive gambler and he can't stop, how can anyone tell him "no one is holding a gun to your head" and "maybe your marriage is in trouble, divorce and get other pleasures" and "get your sorry ass out of the chair, accept responsibility and get out in fresh air" not to mention other not so nice advise.

As we all know, when we gamble, stopping is easier said than done, and when people are that bad it does lead to other problems down the road, such as lying, stealing, losing homes, cars, and in desperation, trying to get their money back from some casinos" but most important losing their families..he is still gambling not because he wants to or because he is in an unhappy marriage, we don't know when it all started or why he plays, but whatever the reason, we should just try and support him and be here for him when he falls..

I am not saying everyone is bashing him, a lot of members gave some really good advise and some really good web-sites for him to go to for help, but what we have to keep in mind is that this is all new to him and he is going to fall and he does want help, so instead of making him feel like a piece of crap, lets just support him..maybe he's not trying to get his money back from this casino, maybe he is, we don't know yet whats going on, but what I do know from my own experience when I first started with CM, I received SO MUCH support, and it has helped me more than I could have imagined, If I received some of the negative responses that iloosetomuch received, I would have never signed back on again and I still would be gambling..call me weak

I don't get tempted to play because of all the different casino sites on here or because of the screen shots, I know whats out there, maybe it doesn't effect him either..I just get upset because some people are sensative, I know myself if I get upset or hurt I would turn to gambling to make me feel better and I don't want to see iloosetomuch to be turned off or upset about some of the negative advise and leave CM...we all handle things differently, someone tried to have me blocked from here because they thought I should be in GA instead of here, if I would have gotten blocked I would still be gambling, GA was not for me, and I had a really good member on here fight for me so I wouldn't be blocked, talk about support :)

I am here to try and help him from not gambling, whatever his intentions are with the casinos, is not my concern right now, good or bad..I don't want him to continue to gamble because I don't want him to lose all I did, he just had a baby and I want to help support him before it's to late, if it's not already..
 
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we don't know when it all started or why he plays, but whatever the reason, we should just try and support him and be here for him when he falls.

Let's face it. We've given him all the support we can. The truth of the matter is that he's not in a position to WANT to quit. Until that happens, no amount of support can help him. He'll just continue to have tunnel vision and ignore those of us that HAVE tried to help him.
 
Some people thought I needed help way beyond this forum, I went from playing 10k a week to 300.00 a month, THANKS to this forum. He may need more help than me but he will figure that out on his own.
But to just ignore him? MY GOD, I can't believe I just read that.

QUOTE=jod5413 He needs major league help, way beyond what the folks on this forum can give him. It would be best to just ignore him, then maybe he would actually go and find the help he so obviously needs.


I don't usually agree with Jod's crass ways, but in this instance, he/she is making alot of sense. I agree!
 
i maybe wrong but

From reading iloosetoomuchs posts i think he/she should call him/herself ilosttoomuchandnowiwantitback....for someone to wait days and days before mentioning the"supposed" casino is just well for want of a better word idiotic if theres a real gripe with this casino do it IMMEDIATELY and stop all this tomorrow tomorrow garbage, PAB or just move on .i for one DO NOT believe thaqt an accredited casino would go out its way to ignore pleas from someone about problem gambling , unless iloosetoomuch spells accredited in a slightly different way ie r o g u e .........
 
Luigi810, well said on your posts, lots of support there which is needed.

iloosetoomuch, are you still gamble free and counting? How many days now, i hope you haven't given up it will get easier but will never go away.

to all that are saying he should name the casino, I think it is good that he is building his anger against this casino as this anger will change to hate and in the short term if he can learn to hate the Casinos he is less likely to give them money. Of course after a while he will have to lose that hate and accept them as a part of life but hopefully by then he will have taken the edge of his addiction.

Hang in there iloosetoomuch and every time you feel like gambling buy something for the baby or better still transfer it straight to a savings account for him to use as a college fund, as you see it grow you will have more incentive. Good luck on stopping
 
How did we give him to much support, how much is to much? I wasn't in the position to quit when I first signed on here and I did it, no one gave up on me..

Let's face it. We've given him all the support we can. The truth of the matter is that he's not in a position to WANT to quit. Until that happens, no amount of support can help him. He'll just continue to have tunnel vision and ignore those of us that HAVE tried to help him.
 
How did we give him to much support, how much is to much? I wasn't in the position to quit when I first signed on here and I did it, no one gave up on me..

The difference is, you actually listened to what was being said, and took our advice. This person is simply ignoring all advice, and wants to do it his way. ie: They're not ready to quit.
 
Hi all

Interesting post and how refreshing to read that many of you consider you have a habit, I think I have a habit too :)

My opinion only, but I would like to say that GA and the 12 step movement is nothing more than a cult. Time will show this to be the case.

As for a success rate, it actually has a failure rate.

If you want to stop gambling why do it "one day at a time" when you can do it in an instant? Also, why relace one addiction with another ie going to meetings relentlessly and talking about gambling!!!! just keeps it alive.

Me, I love it and I am choosing not to stop at the moment.

Regards to all,

J
 

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