Roguish Dont deposit at Royal Prive Casino - 9 months no pay 1.5k !!

Nifty29

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Since the topic has changed, I thought I address it a little.

Forums are just like real life in many ways. Posting something in a forum is tantamount to sending a mass email to thousands of people you mostly don't know, or putting up a big sign in the high street. Sometimes we forget this, and I include myself in that too.

When you post about something that happened to you, or about something you did, you will always get varying kinds of responses. Some will agree, some will not, some will not agree but empathize, some ill think you're silly, etc etc.

My point is that IF you are going to post something like I described above, and in this case it was basically "I played at a known rogue and got shafted", then it is going to produce the full gamut of opinions...especially so since rogue casinos are an emotional topic for most players, particularly those who have been around a while.

Interestingly, the two members who actually addressed the OP (chu and I) pretty much said the same thing i.e. that we couldn't believe that someone with who has been around so long would play at such a dodgy casino. The difference was in the expression, and that I went a little further....and some did not like what I said, especially the OP.

When someone posts something you don't like, you have choices:

1. Ignore it.
2. Respond with counter argument/s
3. Respond with personal insults
4. Report it

In my experience, only 3. will ever get you into trouble.

Some people had an issue with what I said...the only part I can see where some problem might arise with some is the "some people don't listen or use their brains". I don't see a personal insult there.....I sometimes don't use my brains, as I'm sure others don't either...it doesn't mean I am calling the person "stupid" or making a sweeping personal assessment of them. I simply gave my OPINION about what the OP posted in the PUBLIC forum about the DECISION they made. I didn't know the OP at all beforehand....although I have a better picture now.

It seems some members think that I go around throwing personal insults at people trying to make them feel bad for kicks. What I actually do is give my personal opinion about the situation, without the fluff and bubbles. I try very hard to avoid juvenile name calling, and my posting history will show that to be accurate. In person, I actually go out of my way to avoid hurting ANYONE for ANY reason....even though I do give my honest opinion to everyone who asks. The way I type doesn't always carry across my emotions, because I try to keep to the issues at hand and not make every post 28 paragraphs.

Bottom line....post within the rules and there is no problem. I've received suspensions etc over the years, and they were deserved at the time. If members think that how I post is unacceptable, then ask Bryan to change the rules etc. Also, on the topic of hurting people, if I posted here some of the things that have been said to me via PM over the years...for no good reason 99.9% of the time other than I didn't agree with that person's POV....you would be quite amazed. I've learned to brush it off nowadays, but I am very sure that many of you would be extremely unnerved if these things has been said to you e.g. doing things to my children, wife etc, tracking me down and burning my house..and some from my fellow countrymen. I know some of you won't give a toss...which is fine...but I just don't want reasonable people to think that I am without feeling and try to upset people for a hobby. If I upset you....PM me and I will most likely apologise, as my intention is seldom to upset people.,,,it's possible I didn't even realise it.

RE: The last post:

There is a HUGE difference between calling someone "stupid" or a "stupid xxxxxxx" or whatever other childish insult, and having an opinion that someone made a poor decision. The comment was about the DECISION to play at this clipjoint, NOT about the mental capacity of the OP. As I said...he's not the only one to "not use their brains" at times. It is interesting to note that he exception the OP took with my comments was that I was basically re-iterating that he made a poor choice....it was THIS that he didn't like, not the comment (well he didn't mention it anyway).

Still, I know it's not about my actually comments or their context for a handful of people. It's just about...nah it's not worth it.
 

skiny

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Casinomeister; said:
571186I get snappy when I am drawn out of my lair on weekends to moderate conversations between grown-ups.

Oh, now I'm being called a grown-up. Will these insults never end?! :p
 

Tirilej

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@ Nifty
I think most of us knows that you are one of the good guys. I like you even when you act or write anything childish ;)

If I ever was to give you any punishment for hurting peoples feelings, then I would force you to only write nice posts for a whole month :D
What a challenge!
 

skiny

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Since the topic has changed, I thought I address it a little.

Forums are just like real life in many ways. Posting something in a forum is tantamount to sending a mass email to thousands of people you mostly don't know, or putting up a big sign in the high street. Sometimes we forget this, and I include myself in that too.

When you post about something that happened to you, or about something you did, you will always get varying kinds of responses. Some will agree, some will not, some will not agree but empathize, some ill think you're silly, etc etc.

My point is that IF you are going to post something like I described above, and in this case it was basically "I played at a known rogue and got shafted", then it is going to produce the full gamut of opinions...especially so since rogue casinos are an emotional topic for most players, particularly those who have been around a while.

Interestingly, the two members who actually addressed the OP (chu and I) pretty much said the same thing i.e. that we couldn't believe that someone with who has been around so long would play at such a dodgy casino. The difference was in the expression, and that I went a little further....and some did not like what I said, especially the OP.

When someone posts something you don't like, you have choices:

1. Ignore it.
2. Respond with counter argument/s
3. Respond with personal insults
4. Report it

In my experience, only 3. will ever get you into trouble.

Some people had an issue with what I said...the only part I can see where some problem might arise with some is the "some people don't listen or use their brains". I don't see a personal insult there.....I sometimes don't use my brains, as I'm sure others don't either...it doesn't mean I am calling the person "stupid" or making a sweeping personal assessment of them. I simply gave my OPINION about what the OP posted in the PUBLIC forum about the DECISION they made. I didn't know the OP at all beforehand....although I have a better picture now.

It seems some members think that I go around throwing personal insults at people trying to make them feel bad for kicks. What I actually do is give my personal opinion about the situation, without the fluff and bubbles. I try very hard to avoid juvenile name calling, and my posting history will show that to be accurate. In person, I actually go out of my way to avoid hurting ANYONE for ANY reason....even though I do give my honest opinion to everyone who asks. The way I type doesn't always carry across my emotions, because I try to keep to the issues at hand and not make every post 28 paragraphs.

Bottom line....post within the rules and there is no problem. I've received suspensions etc over the years, and they were deserved at the time. If members think that how I post is unacceptable, then ask Bryan to change the rules etc. Also, on the topic of hurting people, if I posted here some of the things that have been said to me via PM over the years...for no good reason 99.9% of the time other than I didn't agree with that person's POV....you would be quite amazed. I've learned to brush it off nowadays, but I am very sure that many of you would be extremely unnerved if these things has been said to you e.g. doing things to my children, wife etc, tracking me down and burning my house..and some from my fellow countrymen. I know some of you won't give a toss...which is fine...but I just don't want reasonable people to think that I am without feeling and try to upset people for a hobby. If I upset you....PM me and I will most likely apologise, as my intention is seldom to upset people.,,,it's possible I didn't even realise it.

RE: The last post:

There is a HUGE difference between calling someone "stupid" or a "stupid xxxxxxx" or whatever other childish insult, and having an opinion that someone made a poor decision. The comment was about the DECISION to play at this clipjoint, NOT about the mental capacity of the OP. As I said...he's not the only one to "not use their brains" at times. It is interesting to note that he exception the OP took with my comments was that I was basically re-iterating that he made a poor choice....it was THIS that he didn't like, not the comment (well he didn't mention it anyway).

Still, I know it's not about my actually comments or their context for a handful of people. It's just about...nah it's not worth it.

Thank you VWM.

Still, I know it's not about my actually comments or their context for a handful of people. It's just about...nah it's not worth it.

Absolutely incorrect. You insulted the OP, he insulted you back. He got a warning. You didn't.

The entire issue was about the posts and the reaction to them.

You're not the victim in this thread. :rolleyes:
 

casinokoenig

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as i said - the "i told you so" - posts are simply annoying and do NOT help at all and thats a fact...


UPDATE:
After my post here i surprisingly got an email from royalprivecasino that they want to pay me on sunday...

On sunday i got a call from them and Walter told me that i won the 2000 $ from a 100 $ deposit (i deposited 125 $ in total i believe) and that the max cashout would be 1000 $ but since i received 400 $ bonus the max i could cash out is 600 $ (its been a way to long time to remember how things were but i strongly do believe that there was no max cashout when i deposited and i do believe i received 300 $ in bonus wich would give me at least 700 $ , alltough in general if i read in the T&C max cashout is 10 times the deposit i would expect that if i have a balance of 1000 + bonus i would receive the full the 1000 $...)

Long story short , he explained that since they allready sent 125 $ in December they still would "owe" me 475 $ for a total of 600 $ in winnings.

When i told him that i won 2000 $ in total and that i won around 800 $ AFTER they sent the first 125 $ he said that this doesnt matter since the winnings all derived from my initial 100 $ deposit...

I accepted the 475 $ since i didnt expect to get anything ..

He also asked me to update here in the forum wich i do by writing this post.


Since my account is and was locked the time i created this post and the time i am writing this post i cant go to my account and check the exact balances nor can i check the history etc. - in my records i see that i deposited 125 $ and won ~ 2000 $ , if we deduct the 400 $ bonus (wich imo were 300$) i still won 1600 $ from wich 600 $ was paid to me now ...
 

Nifty29

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as i said - the "i told you so" - posts are simply annoying and do NOT help at all and thats a fact...

No problem. You're entitled to that opinion, just the same as I am entitled to say "I told you so". Whether it is "annoying" or not is irrelevant. Plus, I wasn't trying to help. I was expressing an opinion.

UPDATE:
After my post here i surprisingly got an email from royalprivecasino that they want to pay me on sunday...

On sunday i got a call from them and Walter told me that i won the 2000 $ from a 100 $ deposit (i deposited 125 $ in total i believe) and that the max cashout would be 1000 $ but since i received 400 $ bonus the max i could cash out is 600 $ (its been a way to long time to remember how things were but i strongly do believe that there was no max cashout when i deposited and i do believe i received 300 $ in bonus wich would give me at least 700 $ , alltough in general if i read in the T&C max cashout is 10 times the deposit i would expect that if i have a balance of 1000 + bonus i would receive the full the 1000 $...)

Long story short , he explained that since they allready sent 125 $ in December they still would "owe" me 475 $ for a total of 600 $ in winnings.

When i told him that i won 2000 $ in total and that i won around 800 $ AFTER they sent the first 125 $ he said that this doesnt matter since the winnings all derived from my initial 100 $ deposit...

I accepted the 475 $ since i didnt expect to get anything ..

He also asked me to update here in the forum wich i do by writing this post.


Since my account is and was locked the time i created this post and the time i am writing this post i cant go to my account and check the exact balances nor can i check the history etc. - in my records i see that i deposited 125 $ and won ~ 2000 $ , if we deduct the 400 $ bonus (wich imo were 300$) i still won 1600 $ from wich 600 $ was paid to me now ...

In other words, they are paying you a portion of what you really won ONLY because they want you to provide positive PR at CM to help convince everyone that they are nice guys.

I'm glad you got paid, even though they still ripped you off in the end.
 

MisterBJ

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Hard lesson learned casinokoenig. This is why casinomeister is so important; And this is a trap most veteran shouldn't even fall for. Those types of bonuses from rogues are traps, plain and simple. I am disappointed to see this thread coming from a veteran at casinomeister. You guys have to set a better example for newbies. Royal Prive thrives on the uninformed, but when they can get the informed to take the bait. Its just a sweeter plus for them (Royal Prive).
 

skiny

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Hard lesson learned casinokoenig. This is why casinomeister is so important; And this is a trap most veteran shouldn't even fall for. Those types of bonuses from rogues are traps, plain and simple. I am disappointed to see this thread coming from a veteran at casinomeister. You guys have to set a better example for newbies. Royal Prive thrives on the uninformed, but when they can get the informed to take the bait. Its just a sweeter plus for them (Royal Prive).

I'm not exactly sure I'd consider Casinokoenig a veteran of this website. He's had an account for a long time but he's only made 40 posts. Some members here make that in a week.... A weekend if they've been drinking.

It's been so long since you made that deposit and took that bonus it would be impossible to find out what the terms and conditions were at the time. These sticky bonuses are pretty common where they take the bonus back after you make a withdrawal. Personally, I don't see what the point is in giving you money and then taking it back. It's not really a bonus in my opinion. I'd call it a loan.

DEPOSIT $100 AND WE'LL LEND YOU $300! Balance of the loan due at cash out.
 

MisterBJ

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Most of their 300%+, and Virtual group bonuses has been 10X cashout for many years.
 

Tirilej

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I find it really incredible to see that just because he posted his complain here the casino decided to pay him 9 month later :eek:
How great isn't this place? People, we have power :p

No seriously. I think we all forget how many people that it really is that are reading everything here.
Sometimes I even wonder what they think of my posts. That crazy moral lady that makes stupid jokes probably, which is fine with me ;)
 

skiny

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I find it really incredible to see that just because he posted his complain here the casino decided to pay him 9 month later :eek:
How great isn't this place? People, we have power :p

No seriously. I think we all forget how many people that it really is that are reading everything here.
Sometimes I even wonder what they think of my posts. That crazy moral lady that makes stupid jokes probably, which is fine with me ;)

They worry about bad PR.

Still, it would be nice if some casinos just realized that the best way to have good public relations is to have good relations with the public.

"That's so crazy, it just might work."
 

chuchu59

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Newbies should note that though the player was paid it was not in totality and a full 9 months later. Obviously they felt that, for a small amount, they could give an impression that they do pay. Don't fall for it. If you win larger amounts even posting in this forum wont make them pay. See, they didn't pay the player in full. If you like Microgaming there are plenty of reputable casinos. Bonuses may be smaller but they act fairly and do pay if you get lucky. The OP has played to the casino's tune and posted that they had paid and personally I don't like these under-the-table deals.
 

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