Does this strategy still work?

Zimbabwe

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I remember I could take a 400% slot bonus and just go on slots and wait till I get free spins and exit the slot,then when the money runs out,re deposit and not claim a bonus so I can cash out immediately and go back to the slots and unload the free spins.
Does this method still work?
 

Nifty29

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I remember I could take a 400% slot bonus and just go on slots and wait till I get free spins and exit the slot,then when the money runs out,re deposit and not claim a bonus so I can cash out immediately and go back to the slots and unload the free spins.
Does this method still work?

Most software providers have adopted a feature that will not allow this, and the rest will deem it to be cheating.

Either way you are screwed.
 

leonardo99

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Most software providers have adopted a feature that will not allow this, and the rest will deem it to be cheating.

Either way you are screwed.

You can say that 'you are disconected' ?
I was few times disconected from casino or net problems before or during the bonus games. Let's say that you lose your net connection during a bonus game (or before) and you conect again to casino you start playing another game just because you forget about bonus round ..Is this cheating?
 

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Interesting old method - almost certainly impossible on any *major* casino software, but I guess you could try it on Casinos who have adopted their own software, and are not aware of this method.

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Daz
 

SlotKing

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Most software providers have adopted a feature that will not allow this, and the rest will deem it to be cheating.

Either way you are screwed.

Nifty is right - why would you want to risk your winnings voided for a "free" free spin round?

And even then - it's not technically "free", as you did pay for the spin before, and whatever the result was when you got the free spins would be the same as when you did this, if you could...

I know 3Dice has a feature that takes you right back to the exact point of exit (except for free spin rounds, which it replays in full) if your connection is interrupted... if you then try again to exit, you have the option of parking the game - but then, the software stops you from playing any further until the parked game is played.

It honestly isn't worth the hassle of trying to find out - the casino would know something was up, and then use their terms to screw you out of your "winnings"... so it's not a good idea to even try.
 

leonardo99

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And even then - it's not technically "free", as you did pay for the spin before, and whatever the result was when you got the free spins would be the same as when you did this, if you could...

It's not realy the same situation if you still have big bonus waggering requiments and a low ballance..and you know will be almost imposible to make your waggering...
 

hurdle

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What would be the entertainment value of this? Where is the fun in it? Seems dishonest and not fun at all. What if you would have hit the big one? Not worth risking plus giving up the actual enjoyment of playing it out.
 

vinylweatherman

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I remember I could take a 400% slot bonus and just go on slots and wait till I get free spins and exit the slot,then when the money runs out,re deposit and not claim a bonus so I can cash out immediately and go back to the slots and unload the free spins.
Does this method still work?

Now, you wouldn't be asking this on a public forum if it STILL WORKED, would you;)

This trick has NEVER worked on Playtech or Cryptologic.

It DID work however on an earlier version of RTG. RTG fixed this over 2 years ago, in that the playthrough counter is no longer "tricked" into resetting when another deposit is made to "free the slots". You will STILL find you are bound to the original WR, but worse still, your new deposit will ALSO be bound to those WR.

It worked up until more recently with Rival software. I have this from some contacts who know about the "dark side", and certain other forums. Rival now look for this when an account seems "too lucky".

Microgaming fixed this long ago, with the fix being introduced when Clearplay was introduced, although it was botched at first. Microgaming casinos who do NOT use Clearplay are STILL vulnerable, unless they add this check into the usual audit process.

It may be that some smaller software vendors and operators "had not thought of this", but they will know now, won't they:D:p


It's not realy the same situation if you still have big bonus waggering requiments and a low ballance..and you know will be almost imposible to make your waggering...

The exploit has been fixed by ensuring that WR are not removed by a "faked" zeroing out of the balance.

There were some threads complaining about WR wrongly carrying over on both MGS and RTG software. It is quite likely that ONE cause of this was the introduction of the fix for this exploit, which WILL also have caused problems for those players who had ended up with an incomplete game due to a disconnect.

The main reason for this vulnerability having worked in the first place was LAZY PROGRAMMING. The software was NOT designed to return players to an incomplete game in the case of RTG and MGS, which meant that players would return and there would be no indication at all that there even WAS an incomplete game in the system.

Cryptologic and Playtech on the other hand, will present the incomplete game to you upon the next login, and you have no choice other than to complete it because you CANNOT open a fresh game until you do.

The fix introduced by RTG and MGS is STILL imperfect, because although the WR counters are not fooled, the software allows new games to be opened and played, and offers no way for the player to determine whether they have any incomplete games, something they will only notice when they see WR carry over, and they will have to ask support, and all support will say is "incomplete game in the system" without saying which one of some 400+ it could be:confused:
This also leaves the software vulnerable to a FUTURE trick that might arise because of a botched upgrade (I'm mainly thinking of MGS here:p). Botched upgrades = higher vulerability to "new tricks".

A botched upgrade in 2006 cost MGS operators a fortune because a bug (or "trick") was introduced into the pair of reel slot games "Chief's Fortune" and "Diamond Deal". The trick was live for 3 months, the time it took operators to find it. Luckily for operators, it only worked ONCE per account, right at the point of creation. It got "busted" in part because some of those "in the know" got greedy and created multiple accounts in order to repeat the trick (which didn't involve taking a bonus). It was the mass multiple accounting, and the fact that so many of these accounts ended up winning off the first deposit, that gave them enough clues to find out what was going on.

Compared to B & M nowdays, 3 months is a LONG time for a trick to work. Before the days of the internet, Fruit Machine "tricks" could last over a YEAR, but now they can be exposed and fixed in a matter of DAYS.

If caught, it is likely to be viewed as "cheating", covered by the now infamous "irregular play" clause. Operators MAY still pay up, as otherwise they might have to risk the exposure of a serious flaw in the software. This was the line taken by MGS back in 2006, and even now operators are VERY reluctant to admit to tricks like this having ever existed, let alone any that may still exist, and are being discussed in the secret "member only" sections of forums catering for the "dark side", where topics such as "multiple accounting without getting caught" are likely to be discussed.
 
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