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Does stopping the reels 'early' make you win more?

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by LDM88, Nov 13, 2017.

    Nov 13, 2017
  1. LDM88

    LDM88 Newbie member

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    Or increase the chance of free spins bonus games happening? Or is it just me?!
     
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  3. reda

    reda Senior Member PABnonaccred

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    I d k if stoping the reels helps. but I got so tired of watching the reels spin so I do the turbo play and stop the reels as well. ive had really good hits. but not sure if its just coincidence. ive played so long on turbo , that its way to slow to just let them spin. I get bored . ive hit several randoms. I play turbo fast always.
     
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  5. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG

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    No. The outcome is decided the moment you push the spin button.
    It doesn't matter if it takes one second or ten before the wheels stop.
     
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  7. goatwack

    goatwack Denny, two is great, but three is a crowd CAG

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    I don't think it makes any difference as you're not physically affecting the reels themselves ....all that's happening is a speeding-up of the random number combinations being spat out in the form of pictures :laugh:

    No juiced up turbo spinning is ever going to surpass the AI's ability to generate several millions of random numbers per second, so to speak :cool:
     
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  9. interlog

    interlog Senior Member MM webmeister

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    My theory: the faster your spin, the faster you lose the money so fast spin is banned when I play.

    Make the money last..... Thunderstruck II for the win :eek2:
     
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  11. osulle

    osulle Ueber Meister CAG mm4 mm1

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    I agree faster spins have no bearing on the outcome just saves on patience I think cause watching slow spins is boring as heck. But then again I have always preferred quickspin and feel the normal spin doesn't build up any suspense for me and never did. It's just a matter of which way you prefer really.
     
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  13. DreamRJ

    DreamRJ Out of this world! MM webmeister

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    I have times where all I do is fast spin, click stop click stop click stop very fast, my fingers are frantic lol.

    And other times I do normal speed spins. It depends on my mood and if I am tired or not, etc etc.
     
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  15. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

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    It will change the outcome because 25 slow spins will not result in the same outcome as 25 quickspins.

    I have won $2000 on quickspin before, where as a slow spin I would not have won that. Right place right time kind of thing

    As for one single spin, it will not change the outcome.
     
  16. Nov 14, 2017
  17. DreamRJ

    DreamRJ Out of this world! MM webmeister

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    Well that is what we would think. For those that do fast spins. For example when I am playing novamatic slots where you can see those numbers at the top left that shows spin ID number. You can also work out how many people are playing it at that time as well. cos you can look at the number before the spin and on the next spin. That will then give you an idea of how many people are playing it right now.

    But getting back to the point in hand all we are doing when we are fast spinning is getting more RNG generations much faster. Whereas if you was slow spinning that RNG generation would be picked for someone else.

    We could argue and argue about if it actually makes any difference. I personally do not think it does. If we are destined to win in a session we will win. If we are destined to lose in a session we will lose.

    Fast spin or not. I dont think it makes much difference. This would be cognitive distortions again where you tell yourself it does make a difference when in fact without any real prove to back it up we can not say for sure.
     
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  19. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

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    Sadly with slots it doesnt come down to destiny. It comes down to RNG. And its not either we win or we lose, its mathematically designed that more times than not, we lose.

    The only way to properly play slots, it to kiss your money goodbye before you even press spin.
     
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  21. goatwack

    goatwack Denny, two is great, but three is a crowd CAG

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    I think it's important to mix up playing styles. I like to alternate between spinning speeds.....if fast spins aren't yielding anything I go to slow spins, whereby I pull my index finger to behind my right ear, before slowly lowering it towards the mouse pad, pressing on it for at least 30 seconds or thereabouts.

    You may mock but I've got several wildlines & full screen of diamonds on Bonanza this way :nod:
     
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  23. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG

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    I think some are mixing up the OP's question. Stopping the reels early, or spinning quickspin/turbo is not the same thing.

    For instance RTG had no turbo or any way to stop the reels early when I started to play. I think it came in 2009.
    Then everybody believed that they could if they were fast enough, stop them when they saw the third scatter.
    Even I bought it at that time:oops:
    I don't know if it's that obvious with other games now but maybe it is, or he's playing RTG.
     
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  25. Borgie

    Borgie Senior Member

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    I am intrigued as to how you know that you would not have won the same on a slow spin?
     
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  27. 4048

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    I'm not Trancemonkey so don't take my word for gospel but here we go.

    The RNG spits out numbers continuously, and gives you a number as soon as you hit "play".
    Say you play 25 spins and each of them takes 1 second as quickspin.
    This means you'll get 25 different random numbers that was all generated within those 25 seconds.
    If each spin took 4 seconds with slow play, you'd still get 25 random numbers but they'd be generated at different times, over 100 seconds, and different numbers would be generated.

    What I'm not sure about is if the RNG gives you a new number once you hit play, or if it just sends the currently active number or the last number it generated.
    If the RNG just gives the currently active number the following would be true:
    With perfect network, execution, luck etc, your second spin with slow spins could've shown the same result as your forth spin with quickspin.
    However if it generates a new number on every "play" that would not be the case, as the number is not determined until you play the game.

    It seems you're under the impression that the slot has lined up 25 spins for you, and regardless of when you play, you will get those 25 results. That's not the case, as the RNG generates a new number when you click play, and not in advance. In addition to being illegal it would also pose a gigantic security risk if the slot or server already knew the results of your future spins.

    Hope that clears it out.


    Now I will go ask Trancemonkey if my above question is the case.
     
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  29. brianmon

    brianmon Meister Member webby mm4

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    And the other thing to remember is that you're not playing the game on your own 'personal' server.
    Between you taking one spin and the next spin, the server might have sent spin results to hundreds, if not thousands, of other players
     
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  31. 4048

    4048 Experienced Member

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    Sorry I thought this was another thread.

    Edit: "Deleted" my message because I confused threads.
     
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  33. gambyx7

    gambyx7 Senior Member

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    Lately, I mostly do quickspin. Exceptions are TS2 and Dragonz...for some reason they become more evil than with normal spin speed.
     
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  35. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    Stopping the reels merely speeds up the generated video graphics to represent a visual outcome of the pull/result from the RNG. It doesn't, never has and never will make an iota of difference to the outcome, other than you'll lose money quicker. :thumbsup:
     
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  37. tataru

    tataru Experienced Member

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    Are the two mutually exclusive?
    I think you mean that because of the programming you can't win longterm.
    It's not an argument against the existence of fate /destiny in slots, too.

    Anyone in the mood for some slot philosophy?
    I feel like writing a book "The Philosophy of slot machines."
    Anyone interested?:eek2:
     
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  39. tataru

    tataru Experienced Member

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    Then why stop at three scatters? 5 scatters every second spin!
     
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