Do slots remember?

[Halvor]

So now that you are armed with the knowledge that the slots remember, if you win you wont win again etc, I am presuming you dont play slots any more? Because if you did that would either mean you are an addict or you dont really believe they are rigged and remember?
Which is it, if you still play?

I would suggest she does neither and approach the regulators. Her ground breaking finds will put us all out of business

 

[ZoeP]

You forget all the shady and corrupt things that have gone on in the last 100 years.

You think you are clever when in fact you are nothing more than a number in a system, least i can think for myself and not regurgitate crap.

 

[cncas2123]

You forget all the shady and corrupt things that have gone on in the last 100 years.

You think you are clever when in fact you are nothing more than a number in a system, least i can think for myself and not regurgitate crap.

But you still play the slots that you say are rigged? That sounds more like feeding the addiction than playing the slots for fun.
Why else would you play when you know that they are rigged against you?

 

[pinnit2014]

But you still play the slots that you say are rigged? That sounds more like feeding the addiction than playing the slots for fun.
Why else would you play when you know that they are rigged against you?

Even odder given it's someone who has their 'eyes open' to all this duplicitous goings on

 

[cncas2123]

Even odder given it's someone who has their 'eyes open' to all this duplicitous goings on

Exactly, whereas we Bonanza players go in with our eyes wide shut....

 

[paul7388]

Exactly, whereas we Bonanza players go in with our eyes wide shut....

Still do not get the fascination with Bonanza . Better slots to play.

I hear Opal Fruits is a great slot.

 

[Halvor]

Even odder given it's someone who has their 'eyes open' to all this duplicitous goings on

There's an argument to be made that many of the tin foil posters on this forum would be better off if they had never heard of RTP, at the very least they would not have a misconception that RTP reflect itself correctly in a small sample of a few 100 or 1000s of spins. Or that they should expect 100x+ on every feature, even games that's fairly easy to trigger.

I had a 11k+x win on Iron bank the first time I played the game, never managed to get that again afterwords. For me that indicates random, for a few that would somehow indicates the game got rigged against me afterwards.

 

[Beeswax]

Feels like it today, won a nice amount last night, back on same site £70 on minimum stake not 1 bonus even on steam tower, was quite annoyed but I’m sure it’s just bad luck...

 

[Halvor]

Feels like it today, won a nice amount last night, back on same site £70 on minimum stake not 1 bonus even on steam tower, was quite annoyed but I’m sure it’s just bad luck...

Yes it is in that case bad luck but it happens. Just as having 2 features within a few spins are luck.

There's not a industry wide conspiracy between the suppliers to manipulate the games. And as have been repeated to death by both me and Trance, the casinos can not make any changes to games or in any way affect the outcome - the games are hosted by us, the providers, and we can not control who wins or not either.

 

[Jono777]

Feels like it today, won a nice amount last night, back on same site £70 on minimum stake not 1 bonus even on steam tower, was quite annoyed but I’m sure it’s just bad luck...

Nope. RIGGED!

Yes. BORED!

 

[Slotplayer83]

There's an argument to be made that many of the tin foil posters on this forum would be better off if they had never heard of RTP, at the very least they would not have a misconception that RTP reflect itself correctly in a small sample of a few 100 or 1000s of spins. Or that they should expect 100x+ on every feature, even games that's fairly easy to trigger.

I had a 11k+x win on Iron bank the first time I played the game, never managed to get that again afterwords. For me that indicates random, for a few that would somehow indicates the game got rigged against me afterwards.

Very interesting theory; but if you'd play in a regular way like any other punter i would bet a 100 quid that you had to recycle the 11k to even get anything good out of it. And thats the point of this thread.

It's questioned if slots do remember, if you win 10k and it takes a equal amount like 10k in order to start seeing considerable wins in return, then yes there is a cycle going on in the back.

Ive had it too many times; hitting big in any casino, withdrawl, come back and play against a huge wall which is impossible to "break" through. Slots where supposed to be random; but they are'nt in this obvious case that many many many players could confirm this behaviour.

Slots dont actually use a real random generator, but a pseudo random generator, which is almost the same, but still not a genuine random as you would expect to have on a roulette wheel for example.

Its something very common i see as well; i always seem to play my deposit straight; for example, putting in 50; at some point getting back to that 50 or near around it, and then chrashing down like no tomorrow, no matter what strategy or game i play.

 

[Halvor]

It's not a bloody theory, the games use random number generators.

I work in the industry, I do know how slots work and yes my access level is high enough to know if anything was wrong.

But go ahead, show your extensive proof of how it actually work, I dare you to come back with facts and not some bullshit about how you know what you see.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Very interesting theory; but if you'd play in a regular way like any other punter i would bet a 100 quid that you had to recycle the 11k to even get anything good out of it. And thats the point of this thread.

It's questioned if slots do remember, if you win 10k and it takes a equal amount like 10k in order to start seeing considerable wins in return, then yes there is a cycle going on in the back.

Ive had it too many times; hitting big in any casino, withdrawl, come back and play against a huge wall which is impossible to "break" through. Slots where supposed to be random; but they are'nt in this obvious case that many many many players could confirm this behaviour.

Slots dont actually use a real random generator, but a pseudo random generator, which is almost the same, but still not a genuine random as you would expect to have on a roulette wheel for example.

Its something very common i see as well; i always seem to play my deposit straight; for example, putting in 50; at some point getting back to that 50 or near around it, and then chrashing down like no tomorrow, no matter what strategy or game i play.

Agree completely, I'd be very shocked if there isn't some form of 'compensation' algorithm running in the background. Played slots for nigh on 10 years now and as you say, it's uncanny how the same set of circumstances recur time and again. At this point I feel it more of an insult that certain people with vested interests say that there isn't. If there's nothing of the sort happening then why do these industry individuals get so aerated and keen to discredit people as loons or problem gamblers?

It's quite obvious if you look at a game like BOD...on those sessions where the scatters disappear you can see the same reel configuration being pulled by the RNG two or three times- which to me says the RNG is pulling from a limited pool of (bad) results.

BUT it doesn't bother me, it is what it is, I don't play to win money I play to have a bit of fun for an hour or two. Certainly not worth ranting and raving about something that will never be proven. If the wins roll in then all good.

In essence, I trust what my eyes and brain tell me over people with a vested financial interest. Instinct doesn't fail me often

 

[Slotplayer83]

It's not a bloody theory, the games use random number generators.

Yes, a pseudo random generator. Thats less intensive then having a real random generator. And why re-invent the same thing over and over again if you could just use a psuedo and generate a sequence of near as random numbers in the first place, that within parameters do what they are supposed todo.

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I mean ive seen quite a few things by now, that none of you mentioned here since you got your so called high level access. On how casino's do tackle volatility by selecting a lower version, or removing certain aspects of the (original) games that might give the player any benefit. We've seen the change in the last few years. Let alone the various RTP's being nerved down some more, in esp lockdown times.

Your trustworthy is as good as the director of Marlboro claiming that there's no such thing of addiction when smoking sigarettes. Obviously you serve your own interest here and i woud'nt take something from you if you cant claim otherwise.

Agree completely, I'd be very shocked if there isn't some form of 'compensation' algorithm running in the background. Played slots for nigh on 10 years now and as you say, it's uncanny how the same set of circumstances recur time and again. At this point I feel it more of an insult that certain people with vested interests say that there isn't. If there's nothing of the sort happening then why do these industry individuals get so aerated and keen to discredit people as loons or problem gamblers?

It's quite obvious if you look at a game like BOD...on those sessions where the scatters disappear you can see the same reel configuration being pulled by the RNG two or three times- which to me says the RNG is pulling from a limited pool of (bad) results.

BUT it doesn't bother me, it is what it is, I don't play to win money I play to have a bit of fun for an hour or two. Certainly not worth ranting and raving about something that will never be proven. If the wins roll in then all good.

In essence, I trust what my eyes and brain tell me over people with a vested financial interest. Instinct doesn't fail me often

There's something very remarkable about some streamers on the net; they all never seem to really got ahead of their deposit ratio vs winning ratio. I remember Rocknrolla previous year slamming 85k or so on this brittish casino, to win that all back in december 2020. It reminds me of quite a few wins too, that these such big wins never came without proper investing.

It's like he paid to be entertained watching him win back his own money.

It's just that the next big phat win i'll grab ill just self exclude myself from life from now on into a particular casino. Because i've bin through that mangle too many (obvious) bloody times to know by now, it's not random. And how a 'streak' of bad luck like suddenly hits me for the wager of 10 grand (lol) after hitting withdrawl of 10 grand.

 

[Slottery]

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cautioned about the misinterpretation of a PRNG as a truly random generator, and joked that "Anyone who considers arithmetical methods of producing random digits is, of course, in a state of sin."

Could somehow agree with this statement.

 

[Slotplayer83]

If you quote it quote it right:

Any one who considers arithmetical methods of producing random digits is, of course, in a state of sin. For, as has been pointed out several times, there is no such thing as a random number there are only methods to produce random numbers, and a strict arithmetic procedure of course is not such a method.

 

[Slottery]

Dunno what really was wrong in that quote taken from Wikipedia, saying exactly same than this one or what's the big difference?

 

[snorky510238]

n essence, I trust what my eyes and brain tell me over people with a vested financial interest. Instinct doesn't fail me often

Quite! I do find it slightly insulting that they think we are just a bunch of muppets that will believe everything were told. It’s blatantly obvious, there is some form of compensation going on.

Like yourself, I think results are being pulled from a different pool some of the time, meaning certain outcomes are not available. I am not that bothered though, as once you tune into certain games it can actually be beneficial.

 

[Slotplayer83]

200 deposit, peaked at 4k, it kept me systematicly around 3500; and at some point no matter what i did it tumbled down. I do another "200 euro" deposit, and suddenly everything was back to life again.

To me it's pyramid scheme. Your deposit is pretty much the ticket overall to win or not. The amount due you deposit as well. I get far better "luck" with doing a 200 deposit then doing a 50 deposit. Does that make sense?

Rigged shit.

 

[Kroffe]

So just deposit 200 and withdraw when you hit 4k.
Repeat.
Buy island.
Retire.

Easy peasy.

 

[Slotplayer83]

Hah; till you hit withdrawl.

Does anyone remember bandid and winning like a ton of cash a while back? He's posting daily vids under the account Powerup slots, playing at video slots. His format is pretty much low stakes / low wagering but he just cant seem to hit anything out of the regular. How big is the chance here that he's facing the same issues after a big withdrawl slots turn cold (completely)?

I mean the video's speak for themself; no need to post any evidence on the above theory.

 

[PatrickBe]

So just deposit 200 and withdraw when you hit 4k.
Repeat.
Buy island.
Retire.

Easy peasy.

Good idea lol

 

[Andy Walker]

Foil hat here, I always wonder why version numbers of the slots change used to think it was done to adjust the payouts back to nearer the rtp they state but now think I was silly thinking this.

 

[Kroffe]

Foil hat here, I always wonder why version numbers of the slots change used to think it was done to adjust the payouts back to nearer the rtp they state but now think I was silly thinking this.

My guess is that its compatibility updates in 99% of the cases the version number of a slot changes.

Think about how many different browsers, operating systems, phones,tablets,laptops there are out there.
And you want your slot to work on all of them to maximize your reach.
So when a new device/browser hits the market, or an update is made to an existing one, you may need to update your game so it keeps playing as it is supposed to, without lag etc.

 

[Slotplayer83]

Foil hat here, I always wonder why version numbers of the slots change used to think it was done to adjust the payouts back to nearer the rtp they state but now think I was silly thinking this.

If they see that a player is having an advantage thats not supposed to be or happen, they nerf / remove / change it. There's various sources on the net where a game got updated and just did'nt play as it did before, let alone the avg payout rate. Woud'nt be the first time that providers nerf a few old games in favor of a new released game.

Updates in relation of mobile / tablet compatibility is nonsense; that is obviously getting tested even before release. And smart game devs already have existing and working frameworks for that. No need to re-invent the wheel.