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Do Online Casinos Reset blackjack after a certain time???

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by jonal, Jun 9, 2009.

    Jun 9, 2009
  1. jonal

    jonal Dormant account

    Occupation:
    trader
    Location:
    chicago
    Well I was playing on multiplayer bj on sportsbook.com and the weirdiest thing and convo ensued. Basically I was playing with 2 other players 4 seats were open and a player then sits on all the open seats for and times out. Is what is said in the convo common knowledge? I do realize that the person could be lying. But 2 things how the real can you sit at all four seats and the person was there over an hour later when someone asked if he was still there.


    gmk05: wow
    gmk05: finally
    RunBetter: um wtf
    gmk05: lol
    RunBetter: did u see that?
    RES123: yea i did
    gmk05: what the four ghettosams?
    RES123: that's what im saying
    gmk05: lol ya
    RunBetter: how is that possible
    RES123: i doln't know
    RES123: maybe a system glitch?
    RunBetter: i hope so there is one other answer for that and i aint going to type it
    gmk05: who knows
    Ghettosam: its no glitch im samuel roberts the dealer...i just reset the hands
    Ghettosam: LOL

    gmk05: whaaat?
    RunBetter: do it again
    RES123: reset the hands?
    Ghettosam: only once every 3 hours
    Ghettosam: so the game stays fair... and no boddy gets a higher edge than 62.99%

    RES123: what do u mean by that
    gmk05: sounds fishy
    gmk05: they see im up
    RunBetter: exactly
    RES123: im definitely not up
    gmk05: i came here with 10 bucks
    gmk05: im at 113
    RES123: wow
    RES123: that's pretty good
    RunBetter: ghetto u there?
    Ghettosam: if you were to win 5 games straight you would have 67.99% edge over the casino and other players...
    gmk05: so?
    RunBetter: we can lose 10 straight hands and its fair but cant win 5 in a row
    RunBetter: lovely
    Ghettosam: before we started resetting hands you had players getting 87.99% edge over the casino and other players

    RunBetter: what do u mean and other players?
    gmk05: 2 in a rowwww
    gmk05: lets see how this goes?
    Ghettosam: that mean...that no body gets good cards except you and thats not fair
    gmk05: ohhh wow shocker
    RunBetter: lol
    RunBetter: such rigging
    gmk05: 1 in a row
    Ghettosam: but you wanna know a secret
    RES123: what
    RunBetter: yes
    gmk05: 2 in a row
    gmk05: awww
    gmk05: im determined to get in a row now
    gmk05: theres 1
    gmk05: 2
    Ghettosam: paper and a pen and write down your losing hands and winning hands as they come...there is usually a pattern....and with that you can pretty much predictthe next number
    gmk05: as they come?
    gmk05: the cards or jus thte number of times you lose?
    gmk05: 1
    Ghettosam: the casino have to be fair...so if you lose 3 hands in a row...the next 2 games are promises wins
    gmk05: 2
    RunBetter: ghetto do u work for this site?
    RES123: im wondering the same thing
    gmk05: i still got 2 hands won
    gmk05: see if i can get
    gmk05: 5
    gmk05: 3 now
    Ghettosam: but you have to know or rememberize the pattern...cause its not always going to come in order
    gmk05: you dont work for this site
    gmk05: 4 in a row
    gmk05: 5 in a row suck my balls
    RunBetter: RESET!! do the trick
    gmk05: lol
    gmk05: hurry b4 i get 6!
    gmk05: awww
    Ghettosam: i been working for playersonly for seven years i seen people lose thousands...cause they dont use a stratagy
    gmk05: im not bettin nothin now
    RunBetter: lol
    RES123: so then how do u reset if u do'nt work for the site
    gmk05: you cant even spell how do you work for this site
    gmk05: here comes the pain
    Ghettosam: i cant spell hunh
    RES123: i don't know wabout this pattern
    RES123: do you guys see a pattern
    gmk05: no
    Ghettosam: p writing them down
    Ghettosam: if you lose a hand write an x if you win write an o....and soon you will see what im talking about
    gmk05: if you work for them why would you be telling us?
    Ghettosam: cause its the 3rd fucking time this week they got me on the night shift
    gmk05: lol your such a liar
    gmk05: they could monitor your chat
    Ghettosam: proxy torrude
    Ghettosam: im just giving advise

    gmk05: advice
    Ghettosam: you see
    gmk05: good job res
    RES123: ty
    gmk05: bad job res
    gmk05: hit that
    RES123: i know
    RES123: man
    Ghettosam: if lose 3,4 maybe even 5 times in a row somewhere down the line the casino have to let you win 1,2,3 or four times....thats why you have to reconize it when it comes...thats why i say write it down
    gmk05: that a boy ressssss
    RES123: do u see a pattern
    RunBetter: no
    RES123: nice run
    tom-a-lom: omg
    bjsucks: wow
    tom-a-lom: this is bull
    bjsucks: 3 21's in a row?
    bjsucks: really?
    tom-a-lom: 4
    bjsucks: thats insane
    bjsucks: nice
    RES123: i thought the mas was 100
    RunBetter: omg
    bjsucks: wow
    RES123: sux
    tom-a-lom: sportsbook is bs
    gmk05: then stop playing
    tom-a-lom: im going to
    RunBetter: ghetto u there still?
    RunBetter: dealer?
    Ghettosam: till 6 am
    RunBetter: omg u r serious


    :eek:
     
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  2. Jun 9, 2009
  3. Jazette Casinos

    Jazette Casinos Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Jazette Casino Management
    Location:
    Costa Rica
    Sportsbook.com

    Good Morning All - I hope you all are well. My name is Kiki and I have worked for Sportsbook/Playersonly/Superbook casinos since 1999 and firstly let me emphasize what ghettosam is describing is wildly inaccurate. I have never heard of such things occurring. I have contacted the casinomeister here directly to provide me with as much information as he can relating to this post. What the poster describes goes against all the standards set by online gaming regulators and would ultimately jeopardize our ability to continue in business. Thank you all for your time. I hope to hear from Bryan shortly. Have a good day!
     
  4. Jun 9, 2009
  5. slotheadlizard

    slotheadlizard Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Movie mercandiser/Researcher
    Location:
    The Nati USA
    SB

    Welcome
    Does ghetto really work for your company? If so is it okay for him to use such foul language when speaking with customers? Plus I think Bryan is on vacation, I'm not sure though. Also, if it is bogus, or whatever, I wouldn't worry. The seasoned forum members on here are way too smart to let someone pull a fast one. I think the truth will come out.
     
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2009
  6. Jun 9, 2009
  7. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Don't hold your breath - he's on holiday at the moment...

    KK
     
  8. Jun 9, 2009
  9. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Maybe all that is being referred to is a SHUFFLE (although every 3 hours seems a long time). Does the dealer use a shoe as would be the case in a B & M casino. Certainly, the shoe is never dealt from till the end, at a certain point the remainder is discarded, and a new shoe is made up from a thorough reshuffle of all the cards. This is done to prevent players using a strategy (card counting) from getting too much of an advantage. The "reset" could also mean a new deck of cards.
    If this "reset" every 3 hours is a genuine feature of the casino, then we DO need an explanation, because it DOES sound a bit "fishy".

    If this dealer DOES work for you, he has done you quite a bit of damage because he has seemingly confirmed an "urban legend" that many casino softwares are rigged to ensure a casino does not get caught out by too large a winning run by it's players.
    The infamous Cipher once touted a system based very much on doing what Ghettosam seems to be suggesting in that chat transcript. His system was found to be little more than "snake oil", since all it did was record PAST patterns, it had no power to predict what would come next.

    Hopefully, you record these chat logs in case of dispute, and can see whether this is a segment from a genuine chat (in which case you have a disgruntled employee), or a fabrication. For this, you will probably need to know the time & date of this event, which hopefully the OP could provide, even if approximate.
     
  10. Jun 10, 2009
  11. jonal

    jonal Dormant account

    Occupation:
    trader
    Location:
    chicago
    The incident occurred today approximently between 1-3am cst. I didn't record which table it occurred on but it looked like it was the only table going at the time.
     
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  12. Jun 11, 2009
  13. Jazette Casinos

    Jazette Casinos Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Jazette Casino Management
    Location:
    Costa Rica
    Sportsbook.com

    Hey Guys, I have been in contact with one of the moderators here namely Simmo and we have since confirmed that this post did NOT come from any employee within our company but from inside the US and is a complete fabrication. Regarding your question vinylweatherman, Multiplayer Blackjack game is played with an eight deck shoe of cards which is reshuffled after each hand. For this or any other queries you may have please free free to contact This email is not visible to you.. Have a great day!
     
  14. Jun 11, 2009
  15. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

    Occupation:
    Not in workforce
    Location:
    Ontario
    Hi. Just looking for a little clarification. Are you saying that the chat as recorded and reported by the OP did not happen, or just that Ghettosam is not your employee and was making everything up?

    If it is the second case, could you explain how he can sit at four seats (sorry, I don't play at your casino) since the OP seemed to indicate that is not something you can do.

    Has Ghettosam now been shown the door, or at least blocked from participating at Live Blackjack?

     
  16. Nov 2, 2009
  17. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

    Occupation:
    Not in workforce
    Location:
    Ontario
    Jazette rep, I see you are on the forum today. Could you please answer my question here? I realize the issue is from several months ago. I am satisfied with your response that the player Ghettosam was not one of your employees, but I would like your response still.

    Your slots look cool. You are not CM accredited, and it takes a lot of trust for me to play elsewhere. A rep's participation in the forum is part of that decision making process.
     
  18. Mar 5, 2014
  19. jonal

    jonal Dormant account

    Occupation:
    trader
    Location:
    chicago
    Interesting the rep never confirmed whether Ghettosam is a employee. Also this was from their "multiplayer blackjack game" not their "live blackjack game".
     
  20. Mar 5, 2014
  21. lnspin

    lnspin Senior Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Webmaster - Mygamblinglife.com
    Location:
    WorldWide
    And is a 5 year old thread
     
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  22. Mar 5, 2014
  23. jonal

    jonal Dormant account

    Occupation:
    trader
    Location:
    chicago
    Sorry if its against the rules to bump a 5 yr old thread, I never saw the post that was in November 2009 and find it interesting that the rep didn't answer the poster's question.
     
  24. Mar 5, 2014
  25. lnspin

    lnspin Senior Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Webmaster - Mygamblinglife.com
    Location:
    WorldWide

    Lol you were the poster…

    Are those sites even around anymore?
     
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  26. Mar 5, 2014
  27. jonal

    jonal Dormant account

    Occupation:
    trader
    Location:
    chicago
    I was referring to JasmineBed's questions that never got answered. I believe sportsbook.com is still around. After the incident I cashed out and never touched that site again. I was trying to decribe the incident on another forum, couldn't remember the details of this incident so I got on here today to read the thread. I never saw JasmineBed's two posts itt and just found it interesting that JasmineBed pointed out that she was considering playing on the site, saw that the rep was online, and requested the rep come to the thread to answer her questions but the rep never posted again itt.
     
  28. Mar 5, 2014
  29. lnspin

    lnspin Senior Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Webmaster - Mygamblinglife.com
    Location:
    WorldWide
    Just checked and they still do seem to be online..

    They used to run RTG software, but now it something else
     
  30. Mar 5, 2014
  31. 3jokers

    3jokers Webmeister webmeister

    Occupation:
    Gambling Affiliate
    Location:
    Pembroke, Malta
    Well, since it was RTG, I guess it's no real surprise if there was something fishy going on, especially back in those days. I've heard many stories about how the casino staff at those casinos where able to manipulate the actual RNG of the black jack games. I know there are some decent ones like iNetBet, but for the rest of them, I would be careful.
     
  32. Mar 6, 2014
  33. jonal

    jonal Dormant account

    Occupation:
    trader
    Location:
    chicago

    Just wanted to point out "Jazette Casino's" second response, did not reveal anything we did not already know, there is no one questioning where I was posting from or whether I am or am not employee, I never said I was an employee in the original post, I was a player on the site and made that clear in my original post. All Jazette Casino's post did was deny the incident I and other players witnessed occurred.

    Furthermore Jazette Casino, why did you have to confirm where this post came from? Was it so you could do an IP Check find out which one of your players I am, then send me an email when I requested a cash out saying this:

    "Just a quick note to let you know (my name) that somebody sharing your IP address has been posting defamatory remarks on www.casinomeister.com regarding our Instant casinos. We are not suggesting this was you but, if you have been using a shared computer we would ask that you ensure you are fully logged out of your account, as much for your own benefit as for ours."
     
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2014
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  34. Mar 6, 2014
  35. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    PAID CASINO SHILL
    Location:
    Turn right, then right. then right again
    Wow...that's quite a scandal :eek:

    Can you provide some links etc to so I can see the evidence for myself? I can't believe myself and other veterans haven't heard of it.
     
  36. Mar 6, 2014
  37. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Why care? This was nearly five years ago. You were the OP. Why bring this up now? You could have bumped this up within a couple of months of your first post.

    If the chat session was a fabrication, then it's implied that you are the one who fabricated this. As I see it, this is water under the bridge - life goes on.

    As for RTG software, operators have no control over how it plays.
     
  38. Mar 6, 2014
  39. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    I think they MIGHT be able to change the RTP by offering a different variation of Blackjack.
    But I can't see how any casino could possibly have any access to the RNG.

    KK
     

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