Do not play Playngo slots right now

[neon claws]

I am a hologram

 

[realmcgregor]

Netent are secretly doing the same. Insider info is that they have a batch of games ready to be released on 92%

 

[neon claws]

Netent are secretly doing the same. Insider info is that they have a batch of games ready to be released on 92%

You only get that RTP if you don't log out and back in three times in a row and clear cookies on a Tuesday

 

[Halvor]

You only get that RTP if you don't log out and back in three times in a row and clear cookies on a Tuesday

While jumping on your left leg and reciting hail mary.

 

[bamberfishcake]

PnG RTPs yesterday: 105.02%
PnG RTPs today: 102.10%
PnG RTPs MTD: 98.21%

Yes, seems they are squeezing it down

Have to point out this is pointless Jan.

There is no comparison to the RTP's of a time when you would have had them at max. Nothing to compare to.

Were not still banging the less RTP makes no difference drum are we?

If it makes no difference and this is not just directed at you but to all the reps/affiliates claiming 'the world is again flat' then why dont all the casinos start putting them back up?

Just to sweeten my post as even the best of lovers have a little tiff now and again....

Play No Limit City at all L&L Casinos today!

No Limit City at L&L are max RTP - The highest paying versions for your wallet!

 

[trancemonkey]

It's pretty clear that RTP obviously makes a different...

if you drop from 96% to 92%, you are losing your money twice as quickly... (the rake doubles)

Simple maths

 

[realmcgregor]

PnG RTPs yesterday: 105.02%
PnG RTPs today: 102.10%
PnG RTPs MTD: 98.21%

Yes, seems they are squeezing it down

1 player bets 10c and wins 500€. (5000×bet)...RTP explodes! Now imagine when this happens on many smaller levels where players bet small, win decent amounts...and sends RTP up for the day. You now run your data, check out RTP, and report happy numbers. Few of them continue playing of course.
I've seen this a few times Jan.
I also understand slot game design, and the importance of balancing RTP and the wins. Don't be fooled by the daily, weekly numbers...check last 3-5 months and then you'll see how much it changes.

 

[neon claws]

1 player bets 10c and wins 500€. (5000×bet)...RTP explodes! Now imagine when this happens on many smaller levels where players bet small, win decent amounts...and sends RTP up for the day. You now run your data, check out RTP, and report happy numbers. Few of them continue playing of course.
I've seen this a few times Jan.
I also understand slot game design, and the importance of balancing RTP and the wins. Don't be fooled by the daily, weekly numbers...check last 3-5 months and then you'll see how much it changes.

I really doubt they're tallying RTP independent of betsize.
So that $500 the person won on a 10c bet then immediately gets wiped out by someone betting $50 a spin.
Sure some people will be lucky and some won't but it all comes out in the wash at the end of the day and the longer the time period you record the rtp for the closer it will get to TRTP, regardless of what people are betting.

 

[realmcgregor]

I really doubt they're tallying RTP independent of betsize.
So that $500 the person won on a 10c bet then immediately gets wiped out by someone betting $50 a spin.
Sure some people will be lucky and some won't but it all comes out in the wash at the end of the day and the longer the time period you record the rtp for the closer it will get to TRTP, regardless of what people are betting.

Rtp has nothing to do with bet size in that regard. It was an example to put things into perspective on how much overall RTP can be influenced from such a small bet.

 

[09237653]

Thought id get away from the idiots on twitter and go CM there's always plenty of intelligent discussions there...

*reads this thread* Oh...

 

[Kroffe]

Thought id get away from the idiots on twitter and go CM there's always plenty of intelligent discussions there...

*reads this thread* Oh...

If you want intelligent discussion you need to visit the Corona-thread and the NK-thread.

 

[Jono777]

If you want intelligent discussion you need to visit the Corona-thread and the NK-thread.

Aren't you forgetting the Mighty Evolution thread also

 

[neon claws]

Rtp has nothing to do with bet size in that regard. It was an example to put things into perspective on how much overall RTP can be influenced from such a small bet.

So... Not much?

 

[Kroffe]

So... Not much?

I think he is mixing up personal rtp with the slots rtp.
Hes missing that a 5000x hit on 10p affects the slots daily/weekly rtp the same amount as a 11x hit on £50 does.

 

[realmcgregor]

I think he is mixing up personal rtp with the slots rtp.
Hes missing that a 5000x hit on 10p affects the slots daily/weekly rtp the same amount as a 11x hit on £50 does.

Never knew there was a difference
There is no difference. The game is certified on billions of rounds, all game play and aspects thereof are inclusive.

 

[Kroffe]

Never knew there was a difference
There is no difference. The game is certified on billions of rounds, all game play and aspects thereof are inclusive.

Yes, the gamerounds are exclusive, but when counting up the daily or weekly rtp, it you have to count Money in vs money out, to see how much have been returned to the players.
Wich means, like i said above, a 5000x hit on 10p and 11x hit on £50 will influence the rtp the same amount.
And that means that lowroller hits, no matter how big, wont have any real effect on what the daily/weekly rtp comes out to.