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ATTN: Casino Rep Do casinos dislike frequent small deposits/withdrawals?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Nicola, Jul 10, 2015.

    Jul 10, 2015
  1. Nicola

    Nicola Casino Affiliate MM mm1 webmeister

    Occupation:
    Web Developer
    Location:
    Green Park, London
    Over the past month I have switched from high-rolling to low-rolling for reasons mentioned in the affiliate section. I usually deposit £20-£25 a time (without bonuses) and play DoA at 9p a spin which in most cases lasts several hours. If I at least double my money, I cash-out.

    Without turning this into another DoA thread, playing 9p has proven to be rewarding in the past by paying £225-£500 for getting 5 scatters and/or a wildline and as much as £800 on 9p bets if you're lucky enough to get multiple wildlines early on. And I love the thrill of a DoA challenge!!

    It's widely reported that casinos have huge processing costs for both deposits and withdrawals. But do I face the risk of being banned for low-rolling and for making frequent small deposits and withdrawals?
     
  2. Jul 10, 2015
  3. snotter999

    snotter999 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Electrician
    Location:
    Newcastle Australia
    I think most casino's would love to boot you!
    Especially if they see your winner screenshots on here from DOA

    But, you don't break any rules at all, so that makes it a bit hard for them to even think about it.

    Now, if you had a big beard and tatts all over your arms!!!
    :):):):):)
     
  4. Jul 10, 2015
  5. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

    Occupation:
    International Money Launderer
    Location:
    the bus shelter, opposite GCHQ Benhall
    The majority of my lifetime play has been like you mention, never ever had an issue.
     
  6. Jul 10, 2015
  7. goatwack

    goatwack Praise the Sun! CAG

    Occupation:
    Stuntman
    Location:
    Londonia
    Oh God please don't start giving casinos ideas. Now it's been thrown out there, it probably shan't be long before lowrollers are phased out altogether and minimum deposits are £50 a pop :eek2:
     
  8. Jul 10, 2015
  9. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Very unlikely - but so what if they do think you're a pain in the arse ban you? There's plenty more casinos to chose from!
    Casinos can choose to accept or not any customer they see fit, for any reason.

    KK
     
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  10. Jul 10, 2015
  11. Casino2014man

    Casino2014man Non-Gambler

    Occupation:
    Noneya
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Virtually every deposit I ever make is £20-£25, never had an issue. Sometimes I do multiple deposits, £20 a time.

    So I think they are ok with it.. :)
     
  12. Jul 10, 2015
  13. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

    Occupation:
    International Money Launderer
    Location:
    the bus shelter, opposite GCHQ Benhall
    I've been a pain in the arse all my life and never been banned from a casino.:thumbsup:
     
  14. Jul 10, 2015
  15. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    California
    I am fairly certain the casino would give you the boot if it did not like your style.
     
  16. Jul 10, 2015
  17. Casino2014man

    Casino2014man Non-Gambler

    Occupation:
    Noneya
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Out of interest, how often from this do you get a cashout?
     
  18. Jul 10, 2015
  19. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

    Occupation:
    gambler :)
    Location:
    Northants
    I think some casinos would struggle without all the low rollers, I admit I deposit small amounts, No shame in that & I bet many do, I do feel guilty some times but always remember casino's are not there out the goodness of there heart, so should not really feel bad if winning,

    I rarely win, Took out 85 from spingenie on the 1st and 40 from costa bingo the other day, That only took 3 days to hit my bank and thats good going for them, I stick any think from 20 - 60 a day Im down over 200 this month so the small depos add up for the casino,
     
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  20. Jul 10, 2015
  21. cncas2123

    cncas2123 Senior Member MM

    Occupation:
    Manager
    Location:
    Belfast
    Surely its the small depositors and low rollers that are the lifeblood of most casinos?? They will make their deposits, £10, £20 or £50 and play around for a while, with only a very small percentage making a cashout. It would always be easier to pay the wins of a low roller than that of a high roller IMO, hence the max bet limits on some slots. And low rollers are less likely to cause problems after losing sessions, whereas high rollers would possibly be more inclined to move to other sites after a bad session or if they hit a dry spell?? With more sites charging for deposits and withdraws, the cost of having the small roller is less, therefore that should increase there attractiveness to the site IMO.
     
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  22. Jul 10, 2015
  23. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

    Occupation:
    Self- Employeed
    Location:
    Wolverhampton
    Small addition to add to the other posts Nicola, more for extra reassurance than anything else.

    I've been low rolling all my gaming 'career' 9p - 90p (90p v rare lol) - total of 12 years.

    Wife joined my 'hobby' (same IP, accounts at same casinos etc) 7-8 years ago, again low rolling.

    *This is the bit I whisper....*

    Never any issues, all accounts still active, all withdrawals honoured, etc etc etc.

    I've recently (2 weeks ish) dropped my DOA play from 27p to 9p bets and hit 2 wild lines (with spins to go) and several 'almosts' which have paid well around the 500x mark.

    I'm 99% confident you will be fine, never bothers me about huge wins as I've always been a 'small fish' but seeing some of your older HR screenies surely you must think 'What if?' when hitting well at 9p bets when you were 'used to' much bigger bet sizes :p
     
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  24. Jul 10, 2015
  25. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

    Occupation:
    n/a
    Location:
    I'm a Canucklehead
    When I began, I low-rolled all the way....quarters, 50 cents was being brave, 60 cents was ouright saucy lol....and I've pulled 1k out of my $50 deps many, many times..and never been booted out. And noone's complained when I WDed small wins or sunk it all. :D

    Casinos KNOW in the long run they're going to get it back after good runs if you remain loyal with them...several times over! And sure, every casino loves a big fish who will sink in large funds, but remember the little guys are the bread and butter that keep the lights on month after month. Your winning dep is balanced by the thousands of players who didn't.

    And like me, those little bitty bettors? Well, I spin buck plus these days as do many who've gotten a taste for bigger wins. :p

    Play by the rules, treat your managers and CS well, remain loyal, and you can have a long, fruitful relationship. :)
     
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  26. Jul 11, 2015
  27. Nicola

    Nicola Casino Affiliate MM mm1 webmeister

    Occupation:
    Web Developer
    Location:
    Green Park, London
    Only a couple of times a week, I play for those wildlines these days which seem to happen maybe once a month. My attitude to slots has changed recently so play for the entertainment rather then the money.
     
  28. Jul 11, 2015
  29. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    I won't mention the sites name, but I found their only withdrawal method for Americans to be bank wire. Fine and dandy, right? Well, in the cashier page within the client, it says there's no fees. Pretty cool! *not!* When you click "read more," only there does it tell you that the bank (their bank) charges $75 for a processing fee. :rolleyes: I'm sure that 90% of low-rollers wouldn't be willing to pay 50%+ of their winnings towards withdrawal fees.....ya think? hehe

    This little tidbit was hidden, and if you didn't click on the "read more" part, you would be blindsided. I called them out on this, asking why the $75 fee, and they never responded. I simply uninstalled their casino. :thumbsup:
     
  30. Jul 11, 2015
  31. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist mm2

    Occupation:
    Casual Stocktaker (Inventory Counter)
    Location:
    Belfast
    I've never had an issue since I started my "Sure Win Cup thing", I've done plenty of deposits of £25 or £50 and cashed out £50 or £75.

    In fact, on a couple of occasions, I've done a deposit of £50 built it up to £59, kept the £9 for the Sure Win Cup and cashed out the remaining £50.
    Then cashed in the Sure Win Cup and withdrawn another £50. I should point out that I did this at Casino Rewards. And I probably did it out of 1. pettiness because they bonus banned me :p and 2. because I could cashout anytime I wanted because they bonus banned me :p

    And there's been a few other times I've cashed out for the same amount that I deposited after a tilting session that put me in a big huff lol.
    Not so much as an e-mail from any of the casinos asking me "any reason you did that?"

    To sum up, you've nothing to worry about (IMHO). I think most casinos would see the bigger picture (retention of the casual player etc).
     
  32. Jul 11, 2015
  33. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    No reason to not cashout once you get to even...I know there's a number of times I would have been happy to break even and cash out :thumbsup:
     
  34. Jul 11, 2015
  35. psychogene

    psychogene Senior Member

    Occupation:
    This and That
    Location:
    Australia
    No issues low rolling which is pretty much all I've done since playing slots a year ago. $20-$30 deposit and betting at minimum stakes is my usual session but I sometimes do multiple deposits across a few places when I got the urge to play various slots.

    Used to low roll last year and had quite a few $500+ withdrawals these days when I deposit $20 and get to about $80 I'm thinking of withdrawing already lol thats how conditioned I feel I am now after suffering long losing streaks. Have had no issues withdrawing too for small amounts - some places I've had to wait awhile but all my withdraws have been honored by the casinos I play at so far.

    I am not sure low rollers are the most essential player-base for casinos but we are significant enough that they cannot be ignored. It also probably helps that people usually start off low-rolling and given enough time can 'evolve' into more serious gamblers and that is where the money is at I believe. I read an article awhile back that stated that its about typical for 20% of a player base to provide about 80% of a casino's profit so I'm guessing the other 20% or so is casual and low rollers which combined should be a large sum enough to be taken seriously.

    Anyway I find low rolling more fun and less stressful playing slots.
     
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  36. Jul 11, 2015
  37. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Senior Member CAG mm1

    Occupation:
    job is OK
    Location:
    Balcony
    I spoke once to a rep about this as i too have times were my gaming kitty is low on funds and then my deposits are in the 20-50$ range. He said that it does not matter what you deposit, the e-wallets take a fixed percentage.

    He also pointed out that a big percentage of their players are low-rollers, hence it is still profitable to them.

    What they don't like though is if you withdraw 50$ and then 30 minutes later you deposit again 20$. Meaning they pay the e-wallets for your withdrawal and then just a short time later they have to pay again for your deposit.
     
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  38. Jul 11, 2015
  39. ternur

    ternur A damn fine cup of coffee CAG webby mm3

    Occupation:
    Lawyer
    Location:
    Finland

    For some merchants, this fixed percentage is shown on the payment confirmation. In my experience this has been 2% for Neteller withdrawals. So small deposits/withdrawals should not be problem for the merchant. Quite the opposite actually.
     
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