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Digimedia's new partners

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by maphesto, May 28, 2014.

    May 28, 2014
  1. maphesto

    maphesto Dormant account

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    Digimedia owns xxwww.safariscratch.comx with the license LGA/CL1/408/2007.

    Sorry if this already is mentioned, but I found out that the connection between Digimedia and Prime is obvious:

    Look check the license LGA/CL1/408/2007 up and you will find that rogue Prime Slots have the same license.

    Remember that Prime Slots also have a very close connection with Bayton Ltd who own the Palace group. Now it's official I guess, Digimedia probably own Bayton aswell or a close migration will be seen.
     
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  2. May 28, 2014
  3. osulle

    osulle Ueber Meister CAG mm4 mm1

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    Now I am getting a headache again:p So Digimedia owns everything. I am not surprised.
     
  4. May 28, 2014
  5. asghan

    asghan Experienced Member PABaccred

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    So now we have: Casino Rewards, Digimedia, 32REd, Vegas Partner Lounge, GoWild, Roxy Palace and Betway group(if they aren't owned by the Palace Group, now Digimedia).

    So there are still a few that Digimedia can acquire :p
     
  6. May 28, 2014
  7. tinybettor

    tinybettor Experienced Member

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    These guys must have some serious dough to acquire such an extensive portfolio of casinos. Do they also have any stake in Microgaming?
     
  8. May 28, 2014
  9. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Not necessarily, they could load the company with debt in order to buy up businesses, expecting that the cost savings as well as future profit will cover both the interest charges and capital. The money may well have been raised from existing investors.

    It does seem to show that the smaller operators are finding it hard to stay in business, so are selling up to the bigger ones. What is of more concern is that we have one owner of a selection of casinos that range from accredited to rogue. It has also been done "cloak and dagger" style, and Bryan expects accredited casinos to keep him informed of such changes. It looks bad when such changes are discovered by accident, and are found to have happened some time ago.

    Betway were run by Palace Group for a while, but more recently they emailed players about some big changes, including the fact that they were going independent again.

    Now, with the changes complete, we have:-

    No mention of Digimedia, and different maildrop address.

    It looks like the changes meant taking everything back in-house, rather than outsourcing to Palace Group.

    Whilst Digimedia seem to have grabbed the majority, possibly even Palace group, it has happened after Betway made a break for the exit, so we still have some non-Digimedia and non-Casino Rewards options for Microgaming. There is also the continuing expansion of browser based platforms using some of the Microgaming games, so there is access to Microgaming content that is unlikely to get bought up by Digimedia.
     
  10. May 28, 2014
  11. maphesto

    maphesto Dormant account

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    When using live chat at BACK2SCHOOLBINGO, which is a Digimedia brand (Fortune Affiliates), the support is the same as Betway's. The chat transcript is infact from Betway. They are in...
     
  12. May 29, 2014
  13. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Well, maybe Betway still use the outsourced CS provided by Palace Group, which many think has already been swallowed up by Digimedia.

    We had better keep a very close eye on the terms to see if the practices that got Fortune Lounge removed from accredited are adopted by all the Digimedia brands.
     
  14. May 29, 2014
  15. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Is TV getting that boring? :p C'mon, there is nothing cloak and dagger about this at all.

    I've been speaking to casino reps off and on for a bit and they are unable to comment fully on their business structure at the moment since things are still being finalized - I'm guessing. What I do know is that this connection of casinos lets them share non-monetary assets like support functions, licensing agreements, affiliate programs, marketing etc. It's really not that big of a deal - and not really interesting unless you know behind the scenes gossip that every industry deals with (who works for whom, who's boinking so-and-so, that sort of thing).

    As far as I know, the casino groups will still be managed separately. But as all things in this industry, time will tell.

    Edited to add: Fortune Lounge is in the process of changing the terms - so as soon as this is done, they should be back on board.
     
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  16. May 30, 2014
  17. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    All very well, but the structure changes are already becoming pretty obvious long before they make the announcements. I am sure they would have finalised things before going to the trouble of changing their licensing arrangements with the LGA, and the footers on the emails they send to players.

    The other thing being shared is players' personal data, and players have a right to know which subsidiaries that are trading as "independent" from each other are in fact connected to the extent that data is being shared.

    We have already had this with the Rival saga over their secretive Rival wide player database that meant supposedly independent casinos had pretty intimate histories on players before they had even signed up.

    Under UK regulations, which will apply from 2015, there has to be far more transparency with regard to gambling companies than most other businesses. At present, online casinos are more secretive than other businesses.

    Far worse than not announcing such things is outright lying to players and the press, and then announcing later on that what was being denied was in fact true all along. It's what we had in the early days of Rival, and it dented trust in the brand as a whole.

    Again, my interpretation of the signs turn out to be true, even though at the time there was no concrete evidence, just the observations based on seeing Digimedia crop up where it shouldn't on promotional emails and websites.

    The only thing I got back to front was the history surrounding the first merger. I thought Digimedia started out as Belle Rock, who then recently bought Fortune Lounge, whereas it seems Digimedia has for some time been Fortune Lounge, and who then bought out Carmen media, moved it to the LGA, and added it to the main Digimedia LGA license, whilst retaining the brands as separate subsidiaries with their own management and promotions.

    I expect that the speculation surrounding the addition of Palace Group, possibly even Betway, to the Digimedia portfolio will turn out to be true later in the year.

    For players, the changes have been detrimental. The nasty terms first appeared at the old Belle Rock, then Palace group, where entirely at the discretion of the casino a new player could not win more than £6000 from their first few deposits, the surplus being confiscated. I also experienced the bullshit and 10 day pending period from Belle Rock once it had become part of Digimedia, and most recently Fortune Lounge lost it's accreditation over the enforcement of rogue terms, which at first they were not prepared to alter. I have also suffered repeated problems recently at Fortune Lounge over the Gone Gambling conversions, with many new rules that appear nowhere on the GG site being used to argue that my "clean" deposit of £500 does not in fact qualify. It has reached the extent that I have given up with GG, it's just not worth the trouble any longer.
     
  18. May 30, 2014
  19. maphesto

    maphesto Dormant account

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    Can you explain? What is the offer and why isn't a clean deposit of 500£ enough?

    EDIT:

    Found this at GG:

    If you have clean deposits of 500$ and the minimum is 50...is it another reason?
     
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  20. May 30, 2014
  21. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    The problem is that they keep making up reasons that are not part of the rules. The latest is that it is compulsory to lose on the qualifying clean deposit in order to be eligible. Another reason is that having made the clean deposit, I was awarded a manager free chip over a week later, and this changed the status of my earlier clean deposit such that it no longer qualified.

    There is nothing about this in the GG rules. In fact, only 50 has to be "clean", the rest can be made up of "dirty" deposits where casino offers are also taken up. The 500 is the figure needed to qualify for the 10% high roller bonus of 50, all other prizes ONLY require a clean 50 deposit.
     
  22. May 30, 2014
  23. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    I assume you notified Greedygirl.

    If what you say is true (refreshing I must say), then they are not abiding by the GG rules.
     
  24. May 31, 2014
  25. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    question is it safe to play within there casinos groups then ? as i have a few accounts to which have been taken over .i dont play the often but have just played at one during this week > ?
     
  26. May 31, 2014
  27. maphesto

    maphesto Dormant account

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    Stick to the ones who are accredited and read all terms! I repeat, read all their terms before you deposit.
     
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  28. May 31, 2014
  29. osulle

    osulle Ueber Meister CAG mm4 mm1

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    Thanks for the info. However I think I will stick to the smaller outfits from now on and of course 32Red which is the only download MGS casino of note as far as I am concerned.

    I am not a fan of large conglomerates, just a personal preference:)
     
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  30. May 31, 2014
  31. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Yes, I copied her into the final part where they explained in more detail, rather than just parroting the cut & paste reply stating that I needed to make a clean deposit of at least 50.

    The detail was that I had won and withdrawn from my 500 clean deposit, so it didn't count as they couldn't give me a bonus on money I had already withdrawn. It also seems that clean deposits don't last 30 days either, but are annulled as soon as any casino promotional bonus is added. They said they are much stricter about the 25 conversion than the 50 high roller.

    It happened all of a sudden this year as in the past I had no trouble depositing a clean £500 and then claiming the £25 conversion and £50 high roller, even where I had won and withdrawn from the clean £500.

    I have been bonus banned at Club World and Slotland/Winaday, so there isn't much left to play for over at GG.

    I will probably end up gifting most of my points away;

    want some :D
     
  32. May 31, 2014
  33. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    im at allslots casino playing had the account for many years its even on my old address.
     
  34. Jun 3, 2014
  35. kavaman

    kavaman Senior Member PABnononaccred3 PABnononaccred3 MM

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    Redflush group and Brightshare group (All Slots Casino, All Jackpots Casino, Wild Jack Casino , First Web Casino ,VIP Lounge Casino) also read digimedia on their website. So thats basicly over half of microgaming download (not quickfire) casinos that are either digimedia or casinorewards.

    I also share the thoughts of some people here that its been pretty secretive, thats just my opinion maybe too much CSI for me. Some of the casinos are accredited here and some are not.

    So its fortunelounge, brightshare, prime, redflush , safariscratch , some bingo sites and possibly soon the palace group, and i may even be missing some.
     

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