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Deuces Wild

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Beenhad, Nov 20, 2006.

    Nov 20, 2006
  1. Beenhad

    Beenhad Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Customer Care Rep.
    Location:
    California
    Anyone know of any reputable online casinos with full-pay Deuces Wild that also allows U.S. players?

    Any help would be appreciated :thumbsup:
     
  2. Nov 20, 2006
  3. bpb

    bpb Banned User - repeated violations of rule 1.14 (tr PABnorogue PABnonaccred

    Location:
    Haverhill
    5dimes.com
     
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  4. Nov 20, 2006
  5. Beenhad

    Beenhad Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Customer Care Rep.
    Location:
    California
    Thanks for the response BP.

    Is this a pretty reputable site? Do you use it often?
     
  6. Nov 21, 2006
  7. Beenhad

    Beenhad Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Customer Care Rep.
    Location:
    California
    Anyone know of any others?
     
  8. Nov 21, 2006
  9. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    Not full pay, but the best odds I've found are on Microgaming "Power Poker" (NOT single hand!) Deuces Wild games for what it's worth.
     
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  10. Nov 21, 2006
  11. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Technical
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    With the modifed rules, several of their games have a player edge (assuming they are fair). I'll give the casino a try soon, and will analyze results using a large number of low bets. I suspect that the results will show a high probability of not being random.
     
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  12. Nov 22, 2006
  13. Beenhad

    Beenhad Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Customer Care Rep.
    Location:
    California
    So, I take it that means you suspect this casino of having rigged software?
     
  14. Nov 22, 2006
  15. GI Joe

    GI Joe Full Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    manager
    Location:
    LA
    I think InterTops takes US players - its MicroGaming

    GI Joe
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  16. Nov 22, 2006
  17. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Technical
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    Yes. For example, yesterday they had a promotion with a 1.05x pay for Pai Gow instead of the standard .95x pay at other casinos or their usual 1.01x. This gives the player a small edge over the casino of ~0.13%. Today its 1.11x payout in roulette instead of the standard 1x payout at other casinos and their usual 1.09x payout. This reduces the house edge to 0.000%. Many of their games have a player edge or a negligible house edge with the modified rules.

    The combination of unknown (to me) software, an extremely low house edge, and plastering a wizard of odds fair SW certification for the period July 1, 2002 to January 31, 2003 all over the place makes me suspect that they are making up for the low house edge with non-random SW that was not present in the 2002-2003 certification. Then again, they may be making money on their sportsbook and lottery and using the negligible house egde as a way of bringing players to the website.
     
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2006
  18. Nov 22, 2006
  19. Beenhad

    Beenhad Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Customer Care Rep.
    Location:
    California
    Well I eagerly await your results aka23 and thank you for your reponses thus far.
     
  20. Nov 23, 2006
  21. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Technical
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    I played most types of the games tonight and was pleasantly surprised. I was expecting obviously unfair games like at Wager21. This was not the case. Results fell within normal expectations. I made a small gain after playing a cummulative 1000+ hands on a variety of games. I recorded 500 hands of baccarat, in which I bet on banker. The results were:

    Banker -- Expected 229, Actual 232
    Player -- Expected 223, Actual 237
    Tie -- Expected 48, Actual 31

    The low number of ties was a little odd. There is less than a 1% of that happening randomly, but I suspect it was just random chance. Overall my returns on their games fell within expectations.

    The SW is flash and seems decent for a smaller group. The SW is nothing compared to Microgaming, Playtech or Cryptologic. There is a fast play option in most games and a "House Way" button on Pai Gow. The game history function doesn't work. The bonus casino section has over 100 blackjack tables, each with different rules. I didn't take the time to compute the return for all of them. There are several payout choices for most of the other games as well. The common theme is a reduced house edge to very low levels, assuming the games are random. This made me comfortable choosing games that I usually avoid due to the poor house edge.

    Live, phone, and email support are available. Live support was quick and helpful. The live support agent requested my password, but still answered my questions when I didn't give it.. One disappointment was the cashout fees. I suppose they have to make up for the transaction fees they get charged, if they are not making it up through casino play with the low house edge. Fees vary between $8 and $40, depending on method. Neteller is $15. You get one free cashout, but it has to be requested between 9-11AM EST on a Monday. If you wager less than 75% of your deposit, you get charged more fees. I probably won't play here again because I prefer other SW and because of the fees.
     
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2006
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  22. Nov 23, 2006
  23. NextToYou

    NextToYou Full Member webmeister

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    5dimes.com is amongs the most reputable sportbooks online. No need to suspect riggedness.

    WSEX offers rake free poker to their customers, so they have negative "house edge" for it (programming, customer service etc. takes resources and money). These sportbooks offer these kind of services and promotions to attract customers to their main product.
     
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  24. Nov 24, 2006
  25. Beenhad

    Beenhad Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Customer Care Rep.
    Location:
    California
    I checked their software and it seems to be short-pay deuces wild, not full-pay. Thanks for the suggestion anyhow.
     

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