Destination Poker is trying to steal $10k+ in winnings from me...

schankwart

Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.ca
I can not believe this anymore. I have already posted about this at another forum but am forced to make as many possible customers aware of this as possible now...

Here it goes:

URGENT WARNING! Do not deposit money at Destination Poker!

This Casino is as rogue as one could get!
-After contacting the person Jetset mentioned in his earlier I eventually received a phonecall from them tonight, a several days after contacting them.

Destination Poker is now trying to VOID 100% legitimate winnings ($10k+) from my non-bonus deposit, claiming that I am a "bonus abuser".

They are not only attempting a major theft here but also do not have ANY valid reason to cancel my winnings.

This Casino is bringing RTGs reputation to a new climax and I will have involve mediators into this matter now.....
 
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Casinomeister

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Hi schankwart,

Go ahead and send me your details and I'll have either them (the Destination Poker people) or the friendly folks at RTG take a look at this.

Why were you playing there in the first place BTW?
 

schankwart

Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.ca
Good evening Brian, I am really sorry for having to bug you with this right after coming back from your (probably refreshing) vacation but this Casino is now pulling up the worst c*** one could imagine and I need to bring this issue to the "next level" now.

After losing on their sign-up offer I decided to deposit additionaly. Lucky as I was I won the mentioned amount on Bonus Deuces Wild by getting 4 Deuces with an Ace.
...The rest has been explained already in my previous post.

Thanks for offering your help Brian, I will send you my account details etc.
 

Dirk Diggler

Dormant account
Aren't these now rumoured to be sister to Connectto? For the record I've made a couple of cashouts from them and been paid within a couple of days - one was for $1,200+ and had me well in profit overall with them at the time.
 

Casinomeister

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Dirk Diggler said:
Aren't these now rumoured to be sister to Connectto? For the record I've made a couple of cashouts from them and been paid within a couple of days - one was for $1,200+ and had me well in profit overall with them at the time.
It's no rumor; I had it confirmed by reliable sources. Why doesn't anyone believe me when I say the same folks are running Connectto, Portifino, and Hamptons? Nobody seems to be listening to me.
 
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jetset

RIP Brian
CAG
"It's no rumor; I had it confirmed by reliable sources."

If these sources have confirmed a sisterly relationship then both Destination's manager Jeff Wallace, and John Spears at Connect To Casino are flat out lying. I have emails from both denying any business relationship between the two.

If this is the case they are adding fraud to theft in Shankie's case.
 
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schankwart

Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.ca
bethug said:
schankwart, did u call them, and what did they say?
They basically called my a bonus abuser and said they will cancel all legitimate winnings.
-All of that without any valid reason.
 

bethug

Banned User - Winner of the "<a href="http://www.c
if they lied about who they are, then why should players put there money there. schankwart, i will call them every 10 min on there dime and i think some of the rest of us should do the same. shankwart you are due your money.
 

jpm

Dormant account
If they have anything at all to do with portofino, STAY FAR AWAY! They won't even pay a $100 debt they owe me, I hope you fare better schank!
 

dominique

Dormant account
If they are connected to Connectto, then, just as Bryan says, they are connected to Portofino/Hampton. Connectto bought Portofino/Hampton back when the pirate broke Hampton's bank.
 

jetset

RIP Brian
CAG
schankwart said:
They basically called my a bonus abuser and said they will cancel all legitimate winnings.
-All of that without any valid reason.
This is the classic crooked operation trick as far as I am concerned - wait for the player to make a big win and then arbitrarily declare him a bonus abuser and disqualify his winnings. This is not acceptable and merits a warning against any operation that tries to pull it.

The correct procedure is to declare the player a bonus abuser, lock his account AND PAY OUT ALL LEGITIMATELY WON MONIES RIGHT UP TO THE DATE OF THE DECLARATION. Disqualifications of winnings under these Destination Poker circumstances is not an option for an honest gambling operation.

Destination Poker is not displaying good management or honest conduct here imo. And that disputed ownership issue with Connect To Casino is also very worrying.
 

schankwart

Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.ca
Jetset, do not forget that I have NOT even received ANY bonus on the deposit I generated my winnings from!!!
 

jetset

RIP Brian
CAG
schankwart said:
Jetset, do not forget that I have NOT even received ANY bonus on the deposit I generated my winnings from!!!
Good point. Very good point!

I'd say you are being ripped off here, Schankie.
 

Casinomeister

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Besides me dealing with reliable sources - the proof of their association is in their email headers. I thought everyone knew this:

From John Spears at Connectocasino

X-Persona: <Bryan Bailey>
Return-Path: <john@connectocasino.com>
Delivered-To: bryan@casinomeister.com
Received: (fqmail 19994 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2004 00:53:05 -0000
Received: from mx03.futurequest.net (mx03.futurequest.net [69.5.6.174])
by pt02.futurequest.net ([69.5.6.173])
with FQDP via TCP; 30 Jun 2004 00:53:05 -0000
Received: (qmail 30175 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2004 00:52:52 -0000
Received:
from mail.connectocasino.com (connecttocasino.com [69.57.141.226]) by mx03.futurequest.net ([69.5.6.174])
with SMTP via TCP; 30 Jun 2004 00:52:52 -0000
Received: (qmail 2912 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2004 23:13:59 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?196.40.68.231?) (196.40.68.231)
by connecttocasino.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2004 23:13:59 -0000
Message-ID: <40E20EE2.4030508@connectocasino.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 18:52:50 -0600
From: John Spears <john@connectocasino.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502)

From Jeffrey Wallace at Destination Poker:

X-Persona: <Bryan Bailey>
Return-Path: <jeffrey@destinationpoker.com>
Delivered-To: bryan@casinomeister.com
Received: (fqmail 16138 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2004 03:04:55 -0000
Received: from mx03.futurequest.net (mx03.futurequest.net [69.5.6.174])
by pt02.futurequest.net ([69.5.6.173])
with FQDP via TCP; 30 Jun 2004 03:04:55 -0000
Received: (qmail 21045 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2004 03:02:28 -0000

Received: from mail.connectocasino.com (connecttocasino.com [69.57.141.226])
by mx03.futurequest.net ([69.5.6.174])
with SMTP via TCP; 30 Jun 2004 03:02:28 -0000
Received: (qmail 9103 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2004 01:23:32 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?196.40.68.231?) (196.40.68.231)
by destinationpoker.com.140.57.69.in-addr.arpa with SMTP; 30 Jun 2004 01:23:32 -0000
Message-ID: <40E22D40.1030309@destinationpoker.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:02:24 -0600
From: Jeffrey Wallace <jeffrey@destinationpoker.com>

User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502)

These both come from connect-to-casino, and possibly from the same computer. The User-Agent identifies their software with a date-stamp. Out of over 10,000 email headers I searched through this morning - only three headers share this same User-Agent, John Spears, Jeffery Wallace, and Jonathan McCain (from portofino.com).

The association is obvious. It's not a he said she said situation anymore. I'm not one to be bullshitted.

So why lie? Casinos that are having difficulty or bad raps will disassociate themselves from their offspring, just like Virtual did with Prism and Cirrus. This is just another example of "ignore the man behind the curtain" sort of thing. Tiresome, ain't it?
 
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jpm

Dormant account
jetset said:
The correct procedure is to declare the player a bonus abuser, lock his account AND PAY OUT ALL LEGITIMATELY WON MONIES RIGHT UP TO THE DATE OF THE DECLARATION. Disqualifications of winnings under these Destination Poker circumstances is not an option for an honest gambling operation.
The correct procedure would have been for them to not even allow him to open an account in the first place if he's in this alleged bonus abuser database! By letting him go ahead and open an account and play with a bonus, they were hoping he would do exactly what he did with that first deposit + bonus, lose it all. They weren't counting on him coming back with a non-bonus deposit and winning it all back and then some. They wouldn't have locked him out at long as he continued to lose, but then they pull out this bonus abuse database b.s. after he wins so they don't have to pay legitimate winnings.

This is beyond rogue, this is pure PREMEDITATED LARCENY and should not be tollerated by anyone. Players, other RTG operators and RTG themselves have to put their collective feet down. They need to pay the legitimate winnings from the non bonus deposit & play and then they can ban him all they want.
 

Casinomeister

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Staff member
jpm said:
This is beyond rogue, this is pure PREMEDITATED LARCENY and should not be tollerated by anyone. Players, other RTG operators and RTG themselves have to put their collective feet down. They need to pay the legitimate winnings from the non bonus deposit & play and then they can ban him all they want.
My sentiments exactly. The more I think about it, the more I believe they ought to be shut down. I would like to see schankwart paid first though. :D

The casino had the gall to tell me if the player would calm down they would consider giving him his deposit back. I'm sure the folks at Neteller would be interested in hearing about this...
 
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