Deposit from friends Skrill account

stillwinning

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Hi all,

I weren't aware of the terms&conditions regarding using friends account to deposit money to online casino.

What I did was borrow money from a friend cause my skrill wasn't working and used his account to deposit money. I won quite significant amount of money and just now noticed that you should only use account that belongs to you.

What should I do and what you think will happen to my winnings?
 

mcgameboy

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Request a meeting with your winnings, so you can at least give them a kiss before you have to say goodbye to them.
 

Jasminebed

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It's not good, a big no-no in pretty much every casino.

If you want to do such a thing, always best to ask first.

If it's a casino that has rep here, you could contact them and ask.

But I think the most like scenario is your winnings are voided and deposited amount is returned to your friend's method of payment.

If you are going to borrow money to gamble, probably best to go buy a voucher or prepaid card. BTW, I strongly recommend you don't borrow money to gamble, including your own credit cards if you can't pay them straight away.
 

stillwinning

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It's not good, a big no-no in pretty much every casino.

If you want to do such a thing, always best to ask first.

If it's a casino that has rep here, you could contact them and ask.

But I think the most like scenario is your winnings are voided and deposited amount is returned to your friend's method of payment.

If you are going to borrow money to gamble, probably best to go buy a voucher or prepaid card. BTW, I strongly recommend you don't borrow money to gamble, including your own credit cards if you can't pay them straight away.

I would have used my own skrill but it was restricted at the time. This sucks balls, it was 5 number win.
 

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I would have used my own skrill but it was restricted at the time. This sucks balls, it was 5 number win.

Wonders why it was restricted? Is this a case of fraud again. And that is why you used *friends* account. I have nothing further to say, its your own fault. and of course it would be a 5 figure sum. most fraud cases are huge amounts.
 

stillwinning

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Wonders why it was restricted? Is this a case of fraud again. And that is why you used *friends* account. I have nothing further to say, its your own fault. and of course it would be a 5 figure sum. most fraud cases are huge amounts.

Not sure why you think there's something fraudulent, skrill was limited because of my limits and need to submit some more verification to them.

Only wrong doing was usage of friends skrill, I had no idea that's not allowed, don't really play that often.

Just to mention that I didn't use any bonuses or anything, just deposit and play.
 

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As suggested, if the casino has a representative here, contact them and then keep your fingers crossed. Not looking good though but you never know. You may be lucky if you're a regular customer at the casino.
 

stillwinning

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fingers crossed

Thanks for the tips, I've contacted the casino here.

I've never won much of anything so I'm really hoping they could look this as an innocent mistake.
 

Jono777

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Thanks for the tips, I've contacted the casino here.

I've never won much of anything so I'm really hoping they could look this as an innocent mistake.

Was it though? - If so you have my full support and everything crossed you get your dosh. If not then the meme's posted thus far state my feelings.

99% of the time I'm on a players side and as I say wish you well if genuine. It does however slightly concern me that even novices (including me some 14 years ago) know without having to read it that deposit sources MUST be under the same name as the details with which the casino account was registered.

There has been either NO or VERY rare exceptions to this rule, usually with written permission from the casino prior.

Hindsight I know but could you not have deposited via another method, bank, pre pay voucher etc?
 

stillwinning

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I didn't think it matters, especially when using online wallet. We were drinking and having fun, I tried to deposit with my own Skrill but my limits were full so my friend let me use his. Honestly I've never even thought about that it could be against any rules if I have permission to use the deposit method. My friend could use his card to pay/buy anything else online for me - why not casino? Anyways, I'm not saying I didn't do something against their terms, just saying I wasn't aware of the rules.

If I had lost, would I get the money back?
 

DreamRJ

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If I had lost, would I get the money back?

If I misunderstood this, Please let me know? So you think if you lose you can get your moneyback? Are you on planet earth? sorry for being condescending but come on mate. If you lose, you lose you will not be able to get your money back. And then if you did a chargeback they would then close your account and you get put on blacklists so it then makes it much harder for you to play in other casinos.

I really do sometimes wonder why do people play in online casinos when they do not have a clue or read terms and conditions for the specific casinos before they play. It is number 1 golden rule, to read terms before you sign up/deposit in any new casino.

If this casino gives you the winnings I will be very surprised, because i really do not think they will or should for that matter, unless they are really relaxed with the terms about using other peoples skrill accounts which I find very unlikely.
 

stillwinning

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I mean that if the games are void when breaking the terms, shouldn't it go both ways?

I know that in real life you wouldn't get your money back of course and I wouldn't think about it if I had lost.

But anyway, this was not my point or anything, just a bit frustrated about the situation where I've got myself into, sorry about that. Just waiting for the casino to reply.
 

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If I misunderstood this, Please let me know? So you think if you lose you can get your moneyback? Are you on planet earth? sorry for being condescending but come on mate. If you lose, you lose you will not be able to get your money back. And then if you did a chargeback they would then close your account and you get put on blacklists so it then makes it much harder for you to play in other casinos.

I really do sometimes wonder why do people play in online casinos when they do not have a clue or read terms and conditions for the specific casinos before they play. It is number 1 golden rule, to read terms before you sign up/deposit in any new casino.

If this casino gives you the winnings I will be very surprised, because i really do not think they will or should for that matter, unless they are really relaxed with the terms about using other peoples skrill accounts which I find very unlikely.

His friend should be given his money back if they refuse to pay. They can't have it both ways.
 

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His friend should be given his money back if they refuse to pay. They can't have it both ways.

Yes the friend should be given his money back.....by the OP, not the casino. The OP fucked up here, pure and simple.
He accepted the terms and conditions before commencing play. If he chose not to read them, that's his problem, not the casino's.
This "oh but I didn't know/think" defence doesn't wash, regardless of whether he is as pissed as a newt or as sober as a judge.

It's a harsh lesson and it can only be learnt the hard way. But maybe the next time (if there is one), the OP does his due diligence and avoids having this sinking feeling of seeing a big win vanish before his very eyes.
 

nutnut

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Yes the friend should be given his money back.....by the OP, not the casino. The OP fucked up here, pure and simple.
He accepted the terms and conditions before commencing play. If he chose not to read them, that's his problem, not the casino's.
This "oh but I didn't know/think" defence doesn't wash, regardless of whether he is as pissed as a newt or as sober as a judge.

It's a harsh lesson and it can only be learnt the hard way. But maybe the next time (if there is one), the OP does his due diligence and avoids having this sinking feeling of seeing a big win vanish before his very eyes.

You can't have a system that allows the player to LOSE LOSE

Here is a example, at Betvictor

I and my GF have accounts, one day not realising I was logged into her paypal and deposited into my own, it was a genuine mistake because we share computers. BV locked and suspended the account, I explained what happened and they reopened the account.

When you apply common sense the issue can be resolved for the player and casino.

Whilst you and others think the player should not only lose his winnings but his deposit? You got to be having a laugh!
 

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I consider all these people - including the person whose shoulder I peer over at the ATM, the buyer whom I sold fake trainers to on Ebay and even the little ol' granny whose purse (complete with accompanying handbag) I borrowed - 'friends' :eek:

The police seem to have real problems believing me that they're all in on the joke and that we pull these pranks on each other all the time!
 

Bulzaih

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If the said 5 figure withdrawal is being voided and deposit refunded (which most likely is the case), tough lesson learnt..

OP, please allow 5-10 minutes of your time to go through the T&C before signing up to any casino, as I believe you don't want such thing to happen again :eek2:
 

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I consider all these people - including the person whose shoulder I peer over at the ATM, the buyer whom I sold fake trainers to on Ebay and even the little ol' granny whose purse (complete with accompanying handbag) I borrowed - 'friends' :eek:

The police seem to have real problems believing me that they're all in on the joke and that we pull these pranks on each other all the time!


Not reading any more of your posts :poke: I fear if i laugh as hard as i just did my bones will break. I have already spit coffee on my screen once.


Seriously OP, I hope you get paid. It is such a shame to win a good amount and not get it.
 

stillwinning

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I surely will read the T&C next time I register to a casino, if I ever going to play again in case of losing my withdrawal. It would be tough and honestly unfair lesson. I'd understand if I tried to game the system that I wouldn't get my money, but unknowingly doing some, in my opinion, minor mistake shouldn't take away what I won.

Of course it's just my point of view, I'm now waiting for casino's response. Their rep already answered here btw.
 

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Hi stillwinning and hi to everybody following this thread,

First of all, it is important to explain to the community of Casinomeister what exactly happened. I won’t reveal any confidential information.

You registered on our casino on the Friday 31st of March 2017 at 12:31 CET and deposited several time the same day at 12:58, 12:59, 13:00 and 13:01. To deposit you used a Skrill account. That same day, you played and you won as mentioned earlier in this thread a "5 figure". At 15:20, you asked for a withdrawal. On the Monday 3rd of April, we asked you to prove your identity and a screenshot of your Skrill account since we noticed that the name of the Skrill account used was different than yours. We also noticed that the name of the Skrill account’s owner is actually an affiliate registered in our affiliation program (Affiliate Republik) and on top of that, you, as a player, were tagged to this same affiliate. Meaning that, every losses would have been converted into a commission for your "friend" affiliate and every winnings, for you.
The same day, while we were waiting for the screenshot, you tried to deposit with a credit card that was also not on your name, but on the name of the same person, owner of the same Skrill account. At 15:26, we received the screenshot of the Skrill account but it did not show the account owner’s name, so we asked you for another screenshot with the account owner’s name. From there, we did not hear back from you and you opened this thread on Casinomeister, plus send us a private message after some people of the community suggested you to do so.

What we cannot accept as a casino, SlotsMillion, and as an affiliation program, Affiliate Republik, is the following:

1. You breached our casino’s terms & conditions by using a financial instrument that does not belong to you to deposit (T&C’s available here:
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«In relation to deposits and withdrawals of funds into and from your Member account, you shall only use such credit cards and other financial instruments that are valid and lawfully belong to you.».

2. «Your friend», standing here as our affiliate, breached our affiliation program’s terms & conditions by directly or indirectly playing in our casino under his own affiliate ID (T&C’s available here: Outdated URL «The Affiliate hereby agrees that traffic to the website will not be generated by illicit or fraudulent activity, mainly but not limited to sending spam or registering as a player or making deposits directly or indirectly to any player account through his tracker(s) for its own personal use and/or the use of its relatives, friends, employees, or other third parties, or in any other way attempt to artificially increase the commission payable or to otherwise defraud the Company. Violation of this provision shall be deemed to be fraud.».

The fact that you "don't really play that often" at online casinos, that you had no idea it was not allowed (cf 1.), that you did not mention that your "friend" is not only your friend but also an affiliate to which you were tag to and the fact that you hope to get your withdrawal approved by publicly sharing your mistake is, in my honest opinion, definitely not something I would have recommended you to mention in a thread, especially in front of this community made of acknowledged and experienced people.

Anyways, before taking any decisions and in order to deal with this particular case in the most appropriate way, we have contacted our regulating authority, the MGA (Maltese Gaming Authority). We have forwarded them all the necessary information and the link to this thread so that they investigate and give us their feedback regarding the situation and the measures to be taken.

We will keep you informed.

Thank you for your understanding.

Your SlotsMillion's team.
 
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