Dendera Casino - management and forum rep wont reply to legit question

[LaurieJim]

Ms Laurie,

I have thought about banging my head on the keyboard but decided to just post the truth and not worry about Tom or what he thought. That's as good a game plan as anything else, don't ya think? And I know that even though you call him a friend, you are not willing to "cross the moral line" in his defense.

Theres some lines you just dont cross and some you try to see both sides and stay in the middle. This is one line i wont cross , not due to just the morals but due to the fact that it was wrong of Tom to post in that thread and propping up a casino that doesnt give a crap...........ok, im dendera'd out now...............laurie

 

[AussieDave]

That's how it comes into my QT

Your winnings from Dandera Casino get paid by Pantasia Casino? The two aren't even connected.

What the term "Money Laundering" didn't enter your mind.

We have affiliates that still promote Irish too.

And affiliates still promote Virtual Casino Group and work with GW.

Your point is

Use as many throw offs and quasi justifications to keep promoting this shoddy joint Tom but your not doing yourself any favours. Frankly your reputation in my eyes has taken a HUGE dive since realising your REALLY only in it for the money

I heard it from a few affiliates here that they will give it a few weeks to see what goes on with them.

Oh great. In aff speak that translates to...Screw that, I'm not taking them down, I'm making money from this casino. I know they've screwed CM peeps & they're on the "Not Recommended" list but hell I'm making money from them.

BTW where did u hear it? Show me the post(s). Or is this just another knitting club meeting held behind closed door PM's



Cheers



Dave

 

[Nifty29]

FYI Dave - The white labels (actually just about all the Rivals) use the central Pantasia processor (Pantasia being the first rival casino).

Reps have stated recently that they have no access or control over that processor, so have to rely on central Rival processing for payouts etc (if its anything like the CS it would expain all the latest problems!). However, at least 2 reps stated last year that each casino does have access to pantasia processor and can pay as fast as they like - so either something has drastically changed, or we are being fed a pack of lies.

Anyway, derail over

Tom - if you are responsible even for a poofteenth of SPAM - you should be ashamed of yourself and people like you should be drawn and quartered. SPAMmers invade my privacy and abuse my personal details and its completely unacceptable.

Ricardo - maybe you and Tom could go pick some curtains together.

 

[AussieDave]

with you now being a "spamming partner" in the dubious "new" Playing 4 Keeps forum.

Got to be sh#tting me

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/scam-artists-www-p4ks-com.31968/

For an affiliate who frequents the webmaster forums here, guess you were getting your glasses repaired when that thread above hit the sh#t fan

As the saying goes...Lay down with dogs wake up with fleas.

List of some of the dubious, dodgy and down right rogue actions Wayne's been up to in the past 9 or so years:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/scam-artists-www-p4ks-com.31968/

You've certainly chosen a prize mongrel in P4Kgaming...woof woof!



So not impressed

Dave

 

[AussieDave]

FYI Dave - The white labels (actually just about all the Rivals) use the central Pantasia processor (Pantasia being the first rival casino).

Thanks for the heads up.

That would be OK if it was disclosed on each website, is it?

I used to play at Paradise8 when they first came out for a year or so. I can't recall every getting a payment from Pantasia, I'd certainly take notice if I had.


Cheers



Dave

 

[AussieDave]

You redeemed FOURTY-SEVEN freebies in a row and you got PAID?!?!?!
And on top of that you get another $400 free?!?
And gathered $118 in comps??

Seriously Tom all sh#t aside, this is exactly one of the reasons players get upset with affiliates. In this case it shows favouritism.

If any player did this they get their ass banned and winnings confiscated. For an affiliate to display this action and be OK with it, is just plain wrong


You've been a CM member long enough to know that is bonus abuse at its extreme.

So to flagrantly throw this crap into a forum where CM peeps have been shafted by the same casino for months, I'm not surprised peeps are ripping into you. You've brought all this onto yourself.

What you choose to do is your business. But if and when it casts another dubious blackspot of question onto casino affiliates that are honorable and do the right thing, I'm going to join the mob and carve away at you too.

The right thing to do, today, is to yank all your promos for Dandera Casino. Yes that would be what a integrity driven affiliate would do.

To leave them as is on your sites, would demonstrate to me that you really don't give a toss and all this time you've conned us with your BS.

So what's it going to be?


Cheers



Dave

 

[Mallorca]

My God Tom what have you done?.
I am very sorry for you but I must say that the previous comments of the members here are correct.I told you long time ago what would happen with Rival casinos, all of them are bad.Sloto Cash is the only one that does it`s job.
I would like to add that Tom is not the only member here that promotes Rival casinos and as well that Tom was the only affiliate I know that removed Irish Luck from his site because of the Jackpot issue but this with Dandera looks bad.
I have told him many ,many times to stop promoting some of the Rival he promotes,Tradition and Dendera among them,but he is the one who decides not me,I am just a player.
I also have an issue with Dandera but I am not going to contact Ricardo because I alredy did it in Christmas with all the information and details and ...still waiting for a response.Ricardo has my email and he also knows I am member here why should I contact him again?.
I don`t care about the money the casino owes me.Have a drink on me with that money Ricardo!!!.

Mallorca.

 

[maxd]

It's not like we really need to be stoking the fire here but ...

And like I said and I heard it from a few affiliates here that they will give it a few weeks to see what goes on with them.

Sorry BT but I gotta say this: over the years you've been among the first peeps to shout "Burn them!" when someone you don't like does some shit. Now that it's someone you're in pocket with it's "uh, let's wait and see"?

How exactly is it you justify that to yourself? Or to us for that matter?

Seems like a nice shiny double standard you got going there.

I should add that if this had happened here -- as in one of ours was embroiled in something like this -- they'd be pulled, quickly, and stay pulled until the thing was cleared up. We've all seen it happen and fairly recently too. Not like BB is trying to set a good example or anything but, uh, maybe that's an example you might consider following?

 

[Mallorca]

I have just received this by email from Tom`s site.

To all my friends Please Please do not play at Dendera Casino
The time has come to say goodbye to this casino.
For Piss Poor Player Support
Thanks to a great friend Mallorca And I know I should of listen to him months ago.
I will take & do my best to remove all links & banners I have with them.
I am sorry I am not God to find them all so if you do come across a link please do not join this place by me.
And please pass this info to all your friends that think or told you that they may join that casino.
Stay away from Dendera Casino Please.
Thanks
Tom
PS I want to Thank Mallorca & Son of a B I knew I should of listen to him.
We are all not Perfect like some but we learn a leason from it all.

Have a great day everyone


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You are receiving this message because you are a member of the forum located at: Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)
Your account username at this forum is "mallorca"

The email above was sent by Tom to his players about an hour ago.

 

[bb28]

The email above was sent by Tom to his players about an hour ago.

Hmmmm......I wonder if that email would have ever saw the light of day had he not got called out here? Could it be......what they call damage control?
He seemed perfectly fine with everything and was glad to brag about his freebies before.

I still feel the need to go again.

 

[Mallorca]

I guess that the answer is NO.
It may be too late the damage is done and Tom`s reputation as someone has posted here previously will also be affected but at least he did the right thing by removing Dendera from his site.

 

[maxd]

It's always good to do the right thing. Kudos to him for biting the bullet.

 

[heatherad]

It's always good to do the right thing. Kudos to him for biting the bullet.

But doing it for the right reason is even more important than feeling you had to do it.
FWIW...that is just a general statement overall and can pertain to anything not just this thread

 

[maxd]

Yeah, but we all make mistakes. I know I've had to be prodded out onto the plank once or twice before I saw the error of my ways.

 

[heatherad]

Yeah, but we all make mistakes. I know I've had to be prodded out onto the plank once or twice before I saw the error of my ways.

Yeah, I've made mistakes too. Good thing is though, he's now someone elses headache.
But not to derail...I don't play at Dendera and after this thread, I'm glad I don't

 

[NASHVEGAS]

Yeah, I've made mistakes too. Good thing is though, he's now someone elses headache.

LOLOL

 

[BingoT]

I do have to apologize to everyone and I know I should be thrown under the bus for it.
But I also have to say I know many that promote the Rival brands and nothing is ever said about them it's the ones that if they post you will jump on them at that time.
I did not do it for a dig or whatever you want to make of it.
I did it so the casino will get off their asses and pay the players out.and to draw attention to them to get things done.
And I did it because the casino .......up and gave me & others this offer many times over.I took them as they came and I know some would do it also if they had the chance.
We are not perfect like most but we learn in the end.
Take it or leave it and I will not be part of anything here anymore if that's what you want.
Thank You and I am so sorry if I thrown people under my bus because they did not get paid.
Things did get done after I emailed them & people got paid.
I will say this also if you want to back stab me in any way you want go for it if the keyboard is your best friend and I am open to all if you like to meet face to face or I will be happy to give you my ph# so we can talk this out.I have nothing to hide.
I am a kind hearted person and many know this.
We learn everyday by our mistakes & I know many here made some in their lives too.
~T~

 

[jod5413]

Poor, poor Tom.

He finally fell in the hole he had been digging for years. I am totally appalled that he asked one of his "friends" to post here rather than coming here and apologising in person. I think it is called "Manning Up"? That makes him a real loser.

I know people do make mistakes, but this is not just a mistake. The signs were out there, he knew there were problems, he's on Casinomeister constantly, so it is not a case of "I didn't know", forgive me.

Morally and ethically he has shown his true colors, and I don't think this is a new thing with him.

Just My Opinion.



(Max, I think I love you! )

 

[RobWin]

Just a few quick questions for all you guys..


Guys, I'm just curious why BingoT is taking so much flak over promoting "Dendera Casino" but none at all for still promoting "Rockbet" ? Was Rockbet not a more serious issue as far as response timelines went? And Rockbet has been on the "Not Recommended" list for awhile now.

I mean to really be fair to the only two Rival Casinos that have their own processors and their own in house support teams, Box24 and Sloto'Cash, should Casinomeister also list the rest of the Rival Casino properties in the 'not recommended list' for the same reason that Dendera just got listed? Centralized and bad support!

Also, was there ever an issue regarding stalling payments for 8 or more weeks to some players of Dendera Casino as we all read about several times last year in most all of the "Rushmore" threads?

Dendera is a more serious issue because of centralized support, than 8 week old stalled payments to Rushmore players?

Rushmore stayed on the "Not Recommended" list for maybe two weeks if I remember correctly.

Why the double standard if that is what it is?

Just trying to put some perspective on this thread, I would love to hear everyones thoughts on these issues I have just brought up above...thanks.

Am I missing something here?
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[bb28]

Bingo.....Tom in answer to your apology post and particularly this part of it. "But I also have to say I know many that promote the Rival brands and nothing is ever said about them it's the ones that if they post you will jump on them at that time."

This thread was not about Rival, it was about one particular casino, Dendera and you were the vocal aff that hung yourself, so don't go giving us that speech by spreading the blame on other aff's who had the good sense to stay out of it.. And yes.....if KK or any other aff that posts here had said the things you said in this thread, I would have posted and thought the same things, so don't give us that poor picking on me thing, OK......it doesn't wash with me or anyone else.

This other thing you said in your apology bothered me also. "And I did it because the casino .......up and gave me & others this offer many times over.I took them as they came and I know some would do it also if they had the chance." You can justify what you do by saying oh everyone else would have done the same, but you know it and I know it and most other people know that a statement like that is BS!

Yes we all make mistakes and apologies are owed but you are including BS excuses in yours. There is a difference in a sincere apology such as just saying I screwed up and one that has a bunch of excuses in it.

Just my 2 cents worth.

 

[Mallorca]

Poor, poor Tom.

He finally fell in the hole he had been digging for years. I am totally appalled that he asked one of his "friends" to post here rather than coming here and apologising in person. I think it is called "Manning Up"? That makes him a real loser.

I know people do make mistakes, but this is not just a mistake. The signs were out there, he knew there were problems, he's on Casinomeister constantly, so it is not a case of "I didn't know", forgive me.

Morally and ethically he has shown his true colors, and I don't think this is a new thing with him.

Just My Opinion.



(Max, I think I love you! )

One of his "friends",so obviously must be me because I posted the message he sent to his players.
Yes, Tom is my friend and I am proud of it so what? Don`t you have friends online too?.
You do not know anything about me and you are more than wrong if you think that I agree with him regarding not only Dandera but other Rival he promotes.I told him long time ago that all the Rival casinos except SlotoCash should be removed from his site because these casinos do not do their job and are making it difficult for the players specially with the withdrawals.
I agree with you.This is not a mistake and he knew about the problems so I understand he`ll pay for it but attacking him is not going to solve the problem.The problem is not Tom.The problem is Rival

 

[NASHVEGAS]

Just a few quick questions for all you guys..


Guys, I'm just curious why BingoT is taking so much flak over promoting "Dendera Casino" but none at all for still promoting "Rockbet" ? Was Rockbet not a more serious issue as far as response timelines went?

I mean to really be fair to the only two Rival Casinos that have their own processors and their own in house support teams, Box24 and Sloto'Cash, should Casinomeister also list the rest of the Rival Casino properties in the not recommended list for the same reason that Dendera just got listed? Centralized and bad support!

Also, was there ever an issue regarding stalling payments for 8 or more weeks to some players of Dendera Casino as we all read about several times last year in all of the "Rushmore" threads?

Dendera is a more serious issue because of centralized support than 8 week old stalled payments to Rushmore players?

Rushmore stayed on the "Not Recommended" list for maybe two weeks if I remember correctly.

Why the double standard if that is what it is?

Just trying to put some perspective on this thread, I would love to hear everyones thoughts on these issues I have just brought up above...thanks.

Am I missing something here?
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Rob,
Where you been bro? Was a little worried about you. Hope all is well!

I am not addressing Rival other than saying Rival is Bonne Chance and all these white labels are one in the same in the same sense as follows per se. We do not go through (well some do) culling out the good and bad Virtual casinos (cause there are none,duh) and they are all considered one and the same just like the Bonne Chance's. These Rival posts afaic are the same as reading COOLCAT pays in 2 days with great CS but POC should be rogued. All the Bonne Chance's (like Virtual) have constants. Most would agree you can not have some good Virtuals and some bad. Nicolas is now preaching a lot of the same John was preaching 2 years ago especially in regards to CS. And each Bonne Chance can decide if it wants to pay progressives in full. WTF?

As you mention Sloto and Box 24 may be the exceptions to the above.

And Vanguard does not even know who owns it.

Bingo T. has worn out the same old spiel and some members issues with him go beyond this thread imo. Most are ethical issues imo but I got bigger fish to fry than worrying about BT.

 

[RobWin]

Rob,
Where you been bro? Was a little worried about you. Hope all is well!

All is good my friend, thanks for asking. Spent a couple of weeks on the slopes and in the casinos in Tahoe...nice little get away I needed...

I am not addressing Rival other than saying Rival is Bonne Chance and all these white labels are one in the same in the same sense as follows per se.

Totally agree other than the two exceptions I mentioned.

We do not go through (well some do) culling out the good and bad Virtual casinos (cause there are none,duh) and they are all considered one and the same just like the Bonne Chance's. These Rival posts afaic are the same as reading COOLCAT pays in 2 days with great CS but POC should be rogued. All the Bonne Chance's (like Virtual) have constants.

Good point!

Most would agree you can not have some good Virtuals and some bad. Nicolas is now preaching a lot of the same John was preaching 2 years ago especially in regards to CS.

Yea, John always talked about how he was setting up his own customer support but he apparently never got around to actually doing it before he left or was $hit canned, whatever the reason...he is gone now at least.

And each Bonne Chance can decide if it wants to pay progressives in full. WTF?

Agreed, what a crock and most of us affiliates just recently found out that we are now, apparently contributing a percentage of our own commissions to funding the progressives at these Rival Casinos... Another issue for another thread I guess.

As you mention Sloto and Box 24 may be the exceptions to the above.

They are for sure...

Bingo T. has worn out the same old spiel and some members issues with him go beyond this thread imo. Most are ethical issues imo but I got bigger fish to fry than worrying about BT.

You may be correct.
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[bb28]

Well we all know they got it lol
I even had live chat to pass it on for us.
No ignore on this thread.
I know Ricardo is good people so we know he will be around soon.

Today I got this three times
After I used the first one I looked after I was done and two other times I saw it again.
But I did not meet that wr.

I just checked it again & now I am up to 6 times.
Does this mean I will be bonus banned for the glich they made

LOL K I will fight to the end.
I am up to 30 times and can't hit ^%^%&*

Oh boy I need to get in the bad boy corner.
Thanks for the comp points Dendera

You got that right lol
Italian stallion <---Yep an old nick name
I don't use that Viagra like you do lol
I am now done after 30 times
All my spins were on a $1.00 spin and never came near the wr

After 43 times I got it
I met the WR Yahoo

I met the full WR today.
To all my friends at Dendera casino.
I know your casino screwed up by putting that $7.00 in the acct.and the way I look at it is that is was a New Promo every time and I never did a cash out from that one promo.
Maximum 1 bonus per household/computer/person
On this all I can say is that it is a New Promo every time I checked the cashier.Am I right or wrong?
If I cash out are you going to Ban me or the Wife for playing again?
I met the WR and I am at $350.00 - the $7.00=$343
Thank You for a fun time at Dendera casino
If you pay me it will go to a good cause.

I am not saying this because I promote them.
But every time I have emailed Ricardodendera he has replied pretty dam fast to me.Even better than some of the other Rival Casino's I have to say.
And they owe me $343.00 on my winnings

All I want to say to Ricardo is please work it out with everyone else please.
~T~

All I can say is Thank You Ricardo & what a great week it was for me.
$20.00 a spin paid off.Yahoo
I am happy today.

Send me the money

I made that WR again
And I got the comp points up to $118.00

NOW PLAYING
400 VIP
Get $400.00 FREE (no deposit necessary)

Any withdrawals listed below may be reversed and refunded back to your account.
Withdrawal of 400 USD requested on Feb 26, 2010 at 14:44.
Transaction 1743851111

From the first promo I got paid too.
Just to let you know I got paid too.

Transaction Details

Date 26-02-2010
Time 15:02:29
Description Payout from Pantasia
Amount 343.00 USD
Money In 343.00 USD

I took the abuse by them making me check the cashier all the time.I knew a few people that got the same thing as I did but they used it about 7 to 10 times and one of the people told me they gave up.
The casino screwed up I did not abuse them.so I say they are at fault here for giving it to me in the first place.

I was at Foxwoods one day and I saw this person at a cash out machine to break $100 bills and it spit out $100 bills and they did not run and tell a casino host about it.
I say if a casino &%^%# up go for it.
Don't you think they take it from us at times.

Just a few quick questions for all you guys..


Guys, I'm just curious why BingoT is taking so much flak over promoting "Dendera Casino" but none at all for still promoting "Rockbet" ? Was Rockbet not a more serious issue as far as response timelines went? And Rockbet has been on the "Not Recommended" list for awhile now.

I mean to really be fair to the only two Rival Casinos that have their own processors and their own in house support teams, Box24 and Sloto'Cash, should Casinomeister also list the rest of the Rival Casino properties in the 'not recommended list' for the same reason that Dendera just got listed? Centralized and bad support!

Also, was there ever an issue regarding stalling payments for 8 or more weeks to some players of Dendera Casino as we all read about several times last year in most all of the "Rushmore" threads?

Dendera is a more serious issue because of centralized support, than 8 week old stalled payments to Rushmore players?

Rushmore stayed on the "Not Recommended" list for maybe two weeks if I remember correctly.

Why the double standard if that is what it is?

Just trying to put some perspective on this thread, I would love to hear everyones thoughts on these issues I have just brought up above...thanks.

Am I missing something here?
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OK.....Rob, just to highlight what you are missing, I took the liberty of quoting some of Bingo's most memorable quotes throughout this thread. Read them again and decide for yourself if what he did (using a no deposit bonus 43 times, when he clearly knew it was a no no, but yet read above for his excuses, was that something that honorable folk would do? Then he has the balls to post about his $400.00 no deposit bonus he got and cashed out from, when all these people in this thread have been bitching about all these other serious issues. To me that comes across as......screw you all, I'm getting mine and just as long as I get mine, (even if I AM cheating the system) it's OK. So yeah I have a problem with it, and it isn't so much about Rival....it's more about Bingo T and Dendera Casino and his shameless IMO behavior in this thread.

Granted there are other threads here in the past that I didn't get in the middle of and some of them I have, sometimes things slip through the cracks and I don't see them or I've got more important things to attend to in my personal life or sometimes it just ain't worth getting in the middle of a shit storm, but well today this one was worth it.

I still love ya......Rob!

 

[RobWin]

OK.....Rob, just to highlight what you are missing, I took the liberty of quoting some of Bingo's most memorable quotes throughout this thread. Read them again and decide for yourself it what he did (using a no deposit bonus 43 times, when he clearly knew it was a no no, but yet read above for his excuses, was that something that honorable folk would do? Then he has the balls to post about his $400.00 no deposit bonus he got and cashed out from, when all these people in this thread have been bitching about all these other serious issues. To me that comes across as......screw you all, I'm getting mine and just as long as I get mine, (even if I AM cheating the system) it's OK. So yeah I have a problem with it, and it isn't so much about Rival....it's more about Bingo T and Dendera Casino and his shameless IMO behavior in these thread.

Ok, now that explanation makes more sense, as to why, about the BingoT question...it seems to be more about BingoT's integrity than just merely about centralized support issues at Dendera Casino. I get that.

I had read where Laurie had mentioned about peeps not getting paid or at least delayed payments in several of her posts so that is also one of the other reasons that I brought up the Rushmore stalled payments issues of last year.

Would still like to hear some comments from you guys regarding those comparison questions that I posted above, regarding Dendera being on the "Not Recommended List" now, verses Rushmore only remaining there for what...maybe two weeks...for way more serious issues IMO? Just really curious what the difference here is in those two issues.
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