Definition of an a-hole

Well Dude - it's time for you to start learnin' to use the almighty power of Twitter...

I'm already followin' your arse.

I suppose if ya ain't the lead dog the view never changes.

Now get movin' post all the cool things in updates in Twitter - and have fun!
 
Well - it may have to do with Plex Gaming "changing" the name of the account from Casinomeister to Plexgaming ....

Oy! That's kind of sneaky! Looks like they punked us on this one. :mad:
 
I will just say - I can understand some of this - Someone tried to "steal" the WagerWitch concept and even purchased a domain name --- ahem --- I had a little discussion with this person since I had the WagerWitch Blog set up YEARS before she set up the site...

We came to a comfortable resolution - She gave me permission to have the site - and then advised that she was no longer working on it - SO - until her time expires at the end of this year - then I will purchase it.

But - I am telling you - people have no CLUE - they actually do not realize what it takes to build up a following or any type of "persona" and they think - without even searching - they think they can waltz in and take it away easily. AGGG

So I sympathize.

But - now that you have a twitter account - Get your followers, post to it once a day - post when you put out a video - or when you have a good deal going on.

It's worth it.

WW
 
Well - it may have to do with Plex Gaming "changing" the name of the account from Casinomeister to Plexgaming, thus retaining the followers. They then set up a new account "Casinomeister" using my email address and thus I received the account.

What they ought to do is contact their "followers" and let them know they were duped. They thought they were following me when in fact it was Plexgaming.

This whole situation was a real shitty thing to do.

Agreed !

Bryan, has Plexgaming not offered you a formal explanation as to why they let this happen and why they did it to begin with?

You know good and well that they were aware of it all along and were probably even checking their google analytics each day to see how many hits they were getting from Twitter.

I couldn't even imagine 32Red or INetBet stooping to this level that Plexgaming has showed us here that they will just in order to ride piggyback on your name...could you?
 
Well - it may have to do with Plex Gaming "changing" the name of the account from Casinomeister to Plexgaming, thus retaining the followers. They then set up a new account "Casinomeister" using my email address and thus I received the account.

What they ought to do is contact their "followers" and let them know they were duped. They thought they were following me when in fact it was Plexgaming.

This whole situation was a real shitty thing to do.

Very sneaky. Apology and action in 15 minutes eh! If this was some "rogue employee" they would surely have had a hard job "busting" him/her, since they would have been knowingly risking their job were their actions found out by the boss.

It seems Plexgaming had pretty much instant access to the records for this account, and were able to bypass this presumed "Office Einstein" and take action by turning the account over to Bryan. Later, it seems they reconsidered, instead retaining the followers, but changing the account name, and leaving behind a new "Casinomeister" account.

In short, they acted "rogue", and it appears that the bosses were "in on it", because of the speed of response once the issue blew up in their face. They may be sorry, but sorry they got caught, not sorry they did it, and they are going to keep hold of the spoils of this action through this manoeuvre to keep the followers. These followers were duped, and unless Plexgaming tell them otherwise, they may STILL think that Plexgaming is somehow acting with the Meister's permission, and that some form of "accreditation" might exist.

Is it possible to identify all the followers of the account changed to Plexgaming, and let them know they were duped, or does this have to go through the Plexgaming account, and rely on trust that they will pass it on to the illicitly gained followers.


I wonder if I have been impersonated on Twitter, or any of the other sites for that matter. I can't see how any profit could be made, but someone could certainly trash my reputation.
Maybe I should employ my nieces and nephew on monitoring duties, they are far more likely to know how these sites work than me. I could pay them a bounty for anyone they bust:D.
 
Very sneaky. Apology and action in 15 minutes eh! If this was some "rogue employee" they would surely have had a hard job "busting" him/her, since they would have been knowingly risking their job were their actions found out by the boss.

It seems Plexgaming had pretty much instant access to the records for this account, and were able to bypass this presumed "Office Einstein" and take action by turning the account over to Bryan. Later, it seems they reconsidered, instead retaining the followers, but changing the account name, and leaving behind a new "Casinomeister" account.

In short, they acted "rogue", and it appears that the bosses were "in on it", because of the speed of response once the issue blew up in their face. They may be sorry, but sorry they got caught, not sorry they did it, and they are going to keep hold of the spoils of this action through this manoeuvre to keep the followers. These followers were duped, and unless Plexgaming tell them otherwise, they may STILL think that Plexgaming is somehow acting with the Meister's permission, and that some form of "accreditation" might exist.

Is it possible to identify all the followers of the account changed to Plexgaming, and let them know they were duped, or does this have to go through the Plexgaming account, and rely on trust that they will pass it on to the illicitly gained followers.


I wonder if I have been impersonated on Twitter, or any of the other sites for that matter. I can't see how any profit could be made, but someone could certainly trash my reputation.
Maybe I should employ my nieces and nephew on monitoring duties, they are far more likely to know how these sites work than me. I could pay them a bounty for anyone they bust:D.

I dont see how they could up an just create a account for you Bryan using the Casinomeister name an all what is ironic is that they left on the 1 page that they closed down the fraud site

makes no sense to me

Cindy
 
Plexgaming response

I think some of you here have missed some issues here.....

vinylweatherman
We never reconsidered to take back the casinomeister account on twitter as soon I noticed what happened I took action and moving the account to CasinoMeister.

The casinoplex account was an existing account we didn't create that after wards.

We have put notices on both casinomeister and casinoplex account about this issue. On casinoplex specially we have told the followers that we are not in any way connected to Casinomeister. And if they wish to follow casinomeister to follow casinomeister account on twitter which is now in full handled by Bryan Bailey.

WagerWitch
Thank you very much for this post. When I spoke to the employee in person he didn't have a clue what he had done. So I explained it to him and it won't happen again.

maxd maxd
We didn't change the casinomeister account to Plexgaming account. Plexgaming account was created after this whole issue.

Antonia1953
Thanks for your post also. PlexGaming didn't have a Marketing department till recently. That is why this whole issue happened. We did advise the followers about it on twitter on both accounts.

Hope this clarifies things....

Have a nice day.
 
I'm afraid I still get the impression that Plex Gaming are treating this gross ethical breach with an inappropriate lack of real concern.

And I just can't buy into the concept of even an inexperienced office junior in the marketing department not knowing that to impersonate anyone - let alone a very high profile webmaster - to generate traffic is both unethical and probably fraudulent to boot in these circumstances.

Plex Gaming may have rectified the boob, but their attitude leaves a lot to be desired imo - and I suspect there's more to this than we are being told.
 
I think some of you here have missed some issues here.....

And I think you've missed some more issues.

You still have not released the Spearmaster account to me. Please do so at your earliest opportunity. Even though the account was not used for the duplicitous activity that your company undertook on the Casinomeister account, I believe you have no right to hold this account either.
 
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The casinoplex account was an existing account we didn't create that after wards.......

We didn't change the casinomeister account to Plexgaming account. Plexgaming account was created after this whole issue......

Hope this clarifies things....

I'm not so sure this clarifies things. Is this 'casinoplex account' the same one as the 'Plexgaming account'? So far, we only seen the 'casinoplex account' which seems to have taken over the 'fake Casinomeister account' followers. Nobody has ever mentioned a separate totally new 'Plexgaming account' until Plexgaming mentioned it here.
 
I'm not so sure this clarifies things. Is this 'casinoplex account' the same one as the 'Plexgaming account'? So far, we only seen the 'casinoplex account' which seems to have taken over the 'fake Casinomeister account' followers. Nobody has ever mentioned a separate totally new 'Plexgaming account' until Plexgaming mentioned it here.

THIS is what I noticed. I have no experience of Twitter, but when "followers" are transferred over to a new "account" anywhere, it is NOT because this new "account" has been CREATED, but because the EXISTING account has been reformatted. Had the Casinomeister account simply been turned over, it would have RETAINED all those followers, and the NEW "Plexgaming" account would begin life with ZERO followers.

The sheer SPEED with which this errant account was identified once the "big cheeses" became aware of this negative publicity indicates this whole exercise was done WITH PERMISSION, rather than done through the actions of a rogue employee. I doubt anyone would consider this action acceptable, and so if a rogue employee was responsible, surely they would have made sure they were DAMN HARD to identify, for fear of being fired.

There is also the matter of the Spearmaster account. CM's was turned over in 15 minutes, but it seems to be taking far longer for Spearmaster to gain control of his, and he is indicating that he has sufficient evidence that it is currently under the control of Plexgaming. This makes things look worse still, in that the CM impersonation was no "one off", but part of a market plan to pose as influential forum members, bloggers, etc in the industry, and then use these impersonated accounts to market Plexgaming branded outlets.

There are probably a large number of people unaware they are being impersonated on the ever expanding array of social and viral communities, so cannot take any action.

When potential players see a casino group behaving like this, no amount of them saying "sorry, won't happen again" when they get caught red-handed will wipe out the negative effects on that elusive property of the online casino-player relationship, TRUST.
 
I think some of you here have missed some issues here.....

vinylweatherman
We never reconsidered to take back the casinomeister account on twitter as soon I noticed what happened I took action and moving the account to CasinoMeister.

The casinoplex account was an existing account we didn't create that after wards.

We have put notices on both casinomeister and casinoplex account about this issue. On casinoplex specially we have told the followers that we are not in any way connected to Casinomeister. And if they wish to follow casinomeister to follow casinomeister account on twitter which is now in full handled by Bryan Bailey.

WagerWitch
Thank you very much for this post. When I spoke to the employee in person he didn't have a clue what he had done. So I explained it to him and it won't happen again.

maxd maxd
We didn't change the casinomeister account to Plexgaming account. Plexgaming account was created after this whole issue.

Antonia1953
Thanks for your post also. PlexGaming didn't have a Marketing department till recently. That is why this whole issue happened. We did advise the followers about it on twitter on both accounts.

Hope this clarifies things....

Have a nice day.


Come on, your employee knows about caisnomeister and knows about twitter enough to start an account with Bryan's business name but didnt know the outcome of what he had done??- that doesnt wash with me sorry to say.
 
you are being nice

I can't believe how nice you are being about this. I think this is a total slap in the face to casinomeister. It takes so much work and an ability to create long term viability. I am sure they knew what they were doing - marketing just doesn't come up with something with out thinking it through - if they did it says a lot about them:eek2:
 
I can't believe how nice you are being about this. I think this is a total slap in the face to casinomeister. It takes so much work and an ability to create long term viability. I am sure they knew what they were doing - marketing just doesn't come up with something with out thinking it through - if they did it says a lot about them:eek2:




he knows exactly what they have done, he is being nice now but I'd say he isnt being as nice behind the scenes to the group, or he is doing more sluething until he finds the info he wants..
 
Colosseum and the Gambling Guru's Blog

Yep, that's what I figured it had to of been also, as they would not have had any control or recourse unless they (Plexgaming) were directly connected to that account in the first place.

Colosseum is doing basically the same thing to me right now on one of their own websites by using my blog name and a piece of an article without giving me a link back and I just discovered this the other day..:rolleyes:

Hello Rob
it's Mike from Minivegas Group here.
I have just come across your post and I would appreciate if you could provide me with a link to the Colosseum article in question as well as the original article on your blog.

I've had a look at both while searching for any shared content but I've had no luck so far.
I would love to look into this as we're not keen on exploting intellectual property like that at Minivegas and we're very much willing to rectify any wrongdoing.

Thanking you in advance!

Mike.
 
Oh Thank G*d.. I was a little concerned by the title... thought it could be moi.

Really this is just one more example of what I was saying earlier.

Even if you are not going to be active on Twitter, you should protect your brand (OR NAME) by making an account.

Well, (*^&^#$%&^*&^$% !!!

Someone did it to me too: Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)

The real address is: Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)


Get everyone to unfollow and block them and report them to @cybersquatters
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Then the account will get closed and you can lobby twitter to get the name back ;)

EDIT__ Sorry I just saw they do not have your link up... that is just taking a good name,
you may have to pay them.. early bird and all... gamesandcasino a bit generic to get twitter to ban them

oops
 
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Hello Rob
it's Mike from Minivegas Group here.
I have just come across your post and I would appreciate if you could provide me with a link to the Colosseum article in question as well as the original article on your blog.

I've had a look at both while searching for any shared content but I've had no luck so far.
I would love to look into this as we're not keen on exploting intellectual property like that at Minivegas and we're very much willing to rectify any wrongdoing.

Thanking you in advance!

Mike.

Sorry Mike that I am just now replying back to you here...I had forgot about this one..:oops: But I do appreciate you commenting here and willing to check this out. Please look over the two pics I have included below along with the links and you will see what I am talking about here.

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Thanks!

Hi RobWin, no worries about the late reply, I knew you'd have got back to me-and by the way thanks so much for allowing me to look into this.
I have to speak to our Marketing and Affiliates people as soon as possible-unfortunately they're all away for some company summit somewhere in Italy, but I'll surely get on this as soon as they're back on Monday.
Till then, all the very best!
Mike
 

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