Define bonus abuse

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So I have seen a few complaints on this board about bonus abuse.

I would like to see a few reps define bonus abuse. Is this like someone who max bets the whole thing, someone who actually takes a bonus on each and every deposit? Just wondering

It's often a synonym of "Spirit of the promotion". Draw your own conclusions.
 
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It's a BS subjective excuse....

Not a criticism but do remember that the OP had marked the thread "Rep Friendly" and asked their question in order to hear from "a few reps". Statements like the above make it a lot less likely that said reps will participate. Just saying.
 
Not a criticism but do remember that the OP had marked the thread "Rep Friendly" and asked their question in order to hear from "a few reps". Statements like the above make it a lot less likely that said reps will participate. Just saying.

Sorry Max. I reworded it better.
 
It's often a synonym of "Spirit of the promotion". Draw your own conclusions.

What Balthazar said (even before the edit) is usually the case when players are accused of Bonus Abuse what a lot of casinos mean is players who use the casinos bonus in order to gain an advantage over them.

The truth is all decent bonuses which reward players with something worth having are open to be taken advantage of to some extent, if they weren't then they wouldn't be any good to the player.
So when many casinos label people "bonus abusers" they mean "advantage players" i.e players who play solely with bonuses and with the aim of winning money rather than for gambling as entertainment.
Of course if all players were like this bonuses would soon be shut off completely (bonuses are far less generous than they used to be because of advantage players).

it gets worse for the casinos when there are rings of advantage players - this happens a lot with welcome bonuses. A group of players will take the welcome bonus and bet high with the bonus money with the intention of hitting a big win, they will then move to a high RTP slot in order to grind out the wagering requirement before withdrawing. Casinos have moved to counter this by limiting max bets with bonus money to a set amount (in our case €5, discretionary of course we don't always apply it) or in some cases a set % of your balance (can get confusing).

Not really abuse but not something casinos can afford to get hit by all the time.

Some casinos will label you a bonus abuser if you only ever bet when they offer you a bonus. Again it's not really abuse, you're just taking an offer that they've given to you and maximising your advantage, but that happens a lot.

True bonus abuse only really occurs when there are multiple accounts, rings with dodgy cards/ID or fraudulent ID.

More often than not though it's something a casino manager will use to make up for the fact that he got his maths completely wrong and was battered due to a bad promotion.
 
Thanks - That's the point I was aiming to make.
It's only really "abuse" if it violates the casino terms (and even then only where the terms are fair, i.e no "Spirit of the bonus" nonsense) or it's based on something illegal.
Labeling someone playing within the rules an "abuser" is just jolly well rude.

So, ultimately it's not a term that should even exist.

This is fraud in my book though, not "bonus abuse". This is also not a subjective thing as they usually have proof of such behaviour.

Thanks for the reply Andy!
 
What Balthazar said (even before the edit) is usually the case when players are accused of Bonus Abuse what a lot of casinos mean is players who use the casinos bonus in order to gain an advantage over them.

The truth is all decent bonuses which reward players with something worth having are open to be taken advantage of to some extent, if they weren't then they wouldn't be any good to the player.
So when many casinos label people "bonus abusers" they mean "advantage players" i.e players who play solely with bonuses and with the aim of winning money rather than for gambling as entertainment.
Of course if all players were like this bonuses would soon be shut off completely (bonuses are far less generous than they used to be because of advantage players).

it gets worse for the casinos when there are rings of advantage players - this happens a lot with welcome bonuses. A group of players will take the welcome bonus and bet high with the bonus money with the intention of hitting a big win, they will then move to a high RTP slot in order to grind out the wagering requirement before withdrawing. Casinos have moved to counter this by limiting max bets with bonus money to a set amount (in our case €5, discretionary of course we don't always apply it) or in some cases a set % of your balance (can get confusing).

Not really abuse but not something casinos can afford to get hit by all the time.

Some casinos will label you a bonus abuser if you only ever bet when they offer you a bonus. Again it's not really abuse, you're just taking an offer that they've given to you and maximising your advantage, but that happens a lot.

True bonus abuse only really occurs when there are multiple accounts, rings with dodgy cards/ID or fraudulent ID.

More often than not though it's something a casino manager will use to make up for the fact that he got his maths completely wrong and was battered due to a bad promotion.

There should be an easy solution.

1) Limit welcome bonuses such that players have to demonstrate some degree of loyalty before they get the best offer. This can be done by a staged offer, with the best offer given last.

2) Rather than "one size fits all" offers, have them tailored to individual players. Don't "bonus ban" players all of a sudden, but change the value of the offers to adjust to how the player plays. Eventually, an advantage player will receive offers he doesn't think worth playing, and will bonus ban himself.

I have noticed a few casinos appear to have adjustable offers. The offers increase in value during an unlucky spell, but hit big and withdraw, and the offers adjust to a lower level until money has flowed back to the casino.
 

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