Decent Winning Runs

hbears341 said:
...I had one last week, but that quickly came to an end. It's almost as if they all of a sudden turned off all the slots! :oops:

Agreed, happens alot. I think it is more or less, big wins come everonce and a while and losing comes all time. But every long once in a while you will get mutiple big wins, which I want to happen to me now!
 
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venetian

johnsteed, when you talk about the dog fight to get up to 100-400 and then if you get there you can shoot up somewhat easily. I know for me that the reason it's such a battle to get up is that I am betting conservatively to that point. But when I get to 300-500 range it's balls to the walls and I raise my bet sometime double what I would normally. Bet bigger and win bigger. That is why I think it is easier to get into the 600-900 range. But that aside, I have noticed that in the forum that we are all having tough times. I have stopped playing for the last week or so because it doesn't matter where or how much I play...I cannot win. The last straw was at spin palace this weekend, deposited $300 and only once got over my deposit (barely). I'm with you Trezz...I am having no fun at all!


Actually, that's an excellent point about having increased the bets once you've broken past that "barrier", thus making it feel all too easy getting to that next target of $1,000 (which again, I routinely fall short of making it there). And of course, getting past that "mark" (let's say the $400 range) would generally coincide with a winning streak of some sort. A factor to which I had overlooked (although I have made swift runs without increasing my bets as well).


"Spin Palace" you say... Oy, that was the last place I got destroyed (reminds of the "Phoenician Casino WALL"... no relation to "Venetian"). There was a MONSTER wall there the last time I played (playing VP and single-hand BJ), which has pretty much scared me off from ever wanting to play there again. I'm sure it's a good casino, but my last experience went like this...

- I started with $400...

- Down to $100...

- Back up to $400...

- Back down to $200...

- Back up to $400...

- Back down to $300...

- Back up to $400...

- Back down to $100...

- Back up to $400...

- Back down to $200...

- Back up to $400...


And then heading back down again, and lost my patience :p and my game-plan (which is a tendency of mine if I play over the 4-5 hour mark).


Although it goes without saying, I got a lot of gaming in that $400, as it took forever to build my way back up (and drop down in a quarter of that time). Couldn't get past that $400 mark (oh, maybe I had made it to $415 at one point). :confused:


Again, I know others do well there, but it's missing the "luck" factor that will keep me coming back (sigh... so long Capital Casino... old friend :( ). I also don't care for "Spin Palace's" online chat window, because it keeps cutting off after 1-2 minutes of inactive use.


Steed


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The point is what? Microgaming is not rigged. It may have been years ago, but it isn't now. You will have the same success getting from whatever to whatever playing the same games in a terrestrial casino.

My last three Microgaming outings:

£400 to £4650.

$2000 to $4000.

£2000 to £4000.

No problems here.
 
No problems here.

You seem to be in the minority.


The point is the patterns seem to have changed, nobody ever stated M/G was rigged, did you see anywhere that the software was rigged? Simply stated the winning runs aren't like they used to be, could be many reasons, there are so many new games to choose from your odds are finding the "lucky" game are less based on numbers, could be a software change based on percentages, whatever it is it just doesn't seem to be the same.
 
Dead Slots

I too have found the slots pretty poor lately. I am finding that the bonus rounds nearly always take more than the 100-150 spin average to get, and are mostly not too good. The last big slot win I had was the 5 scatters in the bonus round on Spring Break. I posted at the time that I might have "broken it", seems I have:D - and not just for me.

The drought on slots has not extended to VP though, but rather replaced an earlier drought on VP. After that minor "4 Deuces and a Joker" on the 100-Hand (500 payoff), I had a RF at All Slots last week, followed by another RF at All Jackpots yesterday (and actually managed to cash both out intact:D ).
This gives me lashings of loot in my Neteller for the Jackpot Factory tournament, so beware:) (I had better "beware" too, as the 1x playthrough for points of each $/50 has to be on slots or similar games).
Overall, I have gained back some of the ground lost during February and March.

I still suspect, as before, that the games are more complex than the straight forward translation of a series of random numbers into a result for an individual game. I find games, or even whole casinos, can lock into one state or another (losing or winning). I also have accounts that are persistently unlucky, and a couple that seem persistently lucky. More games should not affect the percentage of the existing games, BUT if the existing games were changed this would. The two ways to alter the percentage of a random slot are 1)Paytable changes (obvious) 2) ReelBand changes (sneaky)

A permanent change in the behaviour of an "old" game, yet with none of these changes evident, would point to the game not being entirely random in nature, something that most casinos will deny.

The nature of the "pick" bonus is worthy of study. If this can be shown to be non-random, the casinos would have a case to answer as to exactly how random the rest of the experience is.
Casinos beware, non-random software can be BEATEN by lengthy analysis. Our UK "slots" are repeatedly hammered by knowledgable players who have spotted the software patterns and signs. The fact that these pay at around 72%, yet can be beaten, shows what would happen to a non-random 95% game!
After nearly 2 years, I have NOT found any consistent pattern in MG games that can be used against them, although I am certain that some sort of overall trend is imposed on your game sessions from the times I get all the "unlucky" outcomes!
 
vinylweatherman said:
I too have found the slots pretty poor lately. I am finding that the bonus rounds nearly always take more than the 100-150 spin average to get, and are mostly not too good. The last big slot win I had was the 5 scatters in the bonus round on Spring Break. I posted at the time that I might have "broken it", seems I have:D - and not just for me.

After nearly 2 years, I have NOT found any consistent pattern in MG games that can be used against them, although I am certain that some sort of overall trend is imposed on your game sessions from the times I get all the "unlucky" outcomes!

Hi VWM

How much were you spinning when you hit the 5 scatters in free spins?

Im pretty sure that the spins are totally random, and that there really is no pattern to look out for, like the land based 'Fruities' in the UK. However, I could be wrong.

:)
 
I've probably asked this before, but I don't remember the answer:

Slots payout percentages at MG casinos seem to pretty consistently stay at or near 95%. Question: If this includes Progressive jackpots paid out, does this not artificially inflate the slots payout percentages? It seems that a $600,000 win on Major Millions (or whatever) during one month, along with the seemingly daily/weekly Wowpot!, Lotasloot, etc. wins would greatly skew payout percentages for non progressive slots for the month.

I'm not a numbers person, so please be kind when tearing me apart. LOL
 
Smaller jackpots only mean a few tenths of a per cent difference, which would not be noticeable in the normal fluctuation. A big jackpot like Major Millions could increase the payout percentage to over 100%, see, for example, Old / Expired Link. By comparing the payout to normal months, one can also estimate the amount wagered on slots which is normally not published.
 
300/400 zone

As an MG player myself, I too find from a £100 deposit getting up past the £300/£400 mark is the key. At this point I find I can take more risks, ride out bad streaks and try games that I wouldn't normally play.

As has been mentioned, once that 300/400 is hit then our bankroll does seem to accellerate upwards (if were lucky)! but I think a lot of this is down to the fact that the pressure is off and we can bet more confidently.

Wins for me always seem to come when in this situation, and never when I am fighting to keep my bankroll in play.
Hang around long enough and stay patient then some good wins usually always turn up, scrapping around the £50 mark and every spin you make has to be thought about, in relation to your bankroll and the fear of going bust.

At 300/400 I feel in the comfort zone from say a 50 or 100 deposit, I know I got enough playing time ahead to hit something decent as I will be able to hang around long enough.

MJ
 

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