Death of online casinos

[ternur]

Could you please plan a stop in SE-Asia on your way to the UK to pick me up as well, pretty please!

That's a deal Harry

 

[Harry_BKK]

I would never have thought that.
Maybe i was just shit at wagering bonuses

I kind of assumed they would get extra deposits when they run those promos, and that would offset the extra withdrawals.

Any 100% and above bonus promo unleashes a storm from the bonus abuser syndicates. They play maximum allowed bets on HV games and create accounts for their uncles, grandma and anyone else in the village who wants to make a quick buck.

That is one reason why Neteller/Skrill are often excluded as they use e-wallets to move money between their accounts.

Now, if they take the bonus lets say 20x EUR100, that is an investment of 2,000. One good hit on DOA at 4.50 and they win 10 - 20K.

Let them repeat the feat a few times and a casino is quickly losing 100K for a single promo.

 

[ternur]

If i didnt care about what Jet took me there i would just take my own.
I was looking forward to riding the CM-jet.

I can go with you in your jet i guess, as long as you dont pick up Harry.

You do know what kind of a ride it would be on the CM jet, right?

 

[Harry_BKK]

Actually, a few of our members have won trips to the Rizk/Guts offices in Malta - one of the best promos ever. It was a legit tour of the premises with a basic course on how online casinos work. Pretty amazing it was.

@Casinomeister

Bryan, don't you think this is getting a bit much lately? It's covering nearly the entire screen of my laptop.

Maybe one banner would be enough? Just asking!

 

[Casinomeister]

I think Pere may be experimenting.

 

[pereblue]

hey on it ... checking this...
should only show 1 .. harry are you using some kind of VPN or blocking soft??

 

[dunover]

@Casinomeister

Bryan, don't you think this is getting a bit much lately? It's covering nearly the entire screen of my laptop.

Maybe one banner would be enough? Just asking!

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In case you didn't know Harry, casinoJEFE has a bonus offer at the moment.

 

[Harry_BKK]

hey on it ... checking this...
should only show 1 .. harry are you using some kind of VPN or blocking soft??

I change VPN and IP address countless times in a day for work purposes.

 

[Kroffe]

I change VPN and IP address countless times in a day for work purposes.

Sounds rough running a cam-show from home.

 

[Kroffe]

You do know what kind of a ride it would be on the CM jet, right?

My Doa play has been a bit worse than normal, so for the time being i can only afford to fly with this.

 

[geordiecolin]

Big shocking news flash - bonuses are not obligatory. I rarely ever, ever play with them.

As long as people want to gamble, they will. Some a bit more than others, but to think that a pandemic would cause people to stop making wagers, well - that's not going to happen.

That may be the case for now but if this pandemic lockdown continues the effect on jobs and businesses will be catastrophic. With little money all but the rich will have the cash to gamble. And if they do it could be only those who have switched to crypto currencies maybe.
Most of us are only a few steps away from poverty. It may well sound very alarmist today but there is talk of this lockdown lasting quite some time.
I wonder what casino reps have to say?
Edit.
@Playford7 will get his wish in seeing all live streamers go out of business

 

[Hitmebaby1moretime]

Harry, are you stuck in Thailand? Me too! Rather here though than back in UK. Stay where you are mate, heard its madness!

 

[RickyMicky]

I saw the news that now there are 50% more online poker players and this is not surprising, because people are locked in their homes and online gambling is booming. But I also saw the news that Sweden plans to close online casinos.

 

[geordiecolin]

 

[geordiecolin]

The UK haulage industry is almost paralised and the UK gov has made no provisions for the working practices of the haulage industry and goods don't deliver themselves. Nearly half are already off the road. The Haulage Associations CE has warned that most companies work on small margines which means they only have 2-3 weeks worth of funds in their coffers which means they are all just about broke.
Even the ones who are working are finding issue with stopping of at services because everything is closed down. Hauliers are what keep the country ticking so I hope that they include them as key workers because everything including farming will be fucked soon

 

[interlog]

The UK haulage industry is almost paralised and the UK gov has made no provisions for the working practices of the haulage industry and goods don't deliver themselves. Nearly half are already off the road. The Haulage Associations CE has warned that most companies work on small margines which means they only have 2-3 weeks worth of funds in their coffers which means they are all just about broke.
Even the ones who are working are finding issue with stopping of at services because everything is closed down. Hauliers are what keep the country ticking so I hope that they include them as key workers because everything including farming will be fucked soon

Haulage companies are already classified as key workers. Concessions have been made to the industry such as the lifting of any Council delivery restrictions, non enforcement of the LLCS scheme, delay of MOT and servicing, relaxation of some driving hour rules and regulations and discussion is ongoing regarding driving license renewals.

We, as a supermarket, spent a fortune on sub contractors (hauliers) so there is some work to be picked up. Not enough to fill all of the gaps though.

The furlough scheme is also open to them, and I know of some hauliers that are making use of that.

 

[geordiecolin]

Haulage companies are already classified as key workers. Concessions have been made to the industry such as the lifting of any Council delivery restrictions, non enforcement of the LLCS scheme, delay of MOT and servicing, relaxation of some driving hour rules and regulations and discussion is ongoing regarding driving license renewals.

We, as a supermarket, spent a fortune on sub contractors (hauliers) so there is some work to be picked up. Not enough to fill all of the gaps though.

The furlough scheme is also open to them, and I know of some hauliers that are making use of that.

Haulage companies are already classified as key workers. Concessions have been made to the industry such as the lifting of any Council delivery restrictions, non enforcement of the LLCS scheme, delay of MOT and servicing, relaxation of some driving hour rules and regulations and discussion is ongoing regarding driving license renewals.

We, as a supermarket, spent a fortune on sub contractors (hauliers) so there is some work to be picked up. Not enough to fill all of the gaps though.

The furlough scheme is also open to them, and I know of some hauliers that are making use of that.

You seem to have posted a quote from the supermarket industry which themselves as well as their hauliers are key workers. The Supermarket industry will have picked up some of the drivers who had lost work. My guess is that many of those are self employed,as are many long haul drivers.
However that does not account for almost 50% of drivers and vehicles being at a stand still.
The Haulage Association's C E has been crying out for intervention from the government because the governments messures are not helping them

 

[interlog]

You seem to have posted a quote from the supermarket industry which themselves as well as their hauliers are key workers. The Supermarket industry will have picked up some drivers had lost work. My guess is that many of those are self employed,as are many long haul drivers.
However that does not account for almost 50% of drivers and vehicles being at a stand still.
The Haulage Association's C E has been crying out for intervention from the government because the governments messures are not helping them

The whole industry is classified as key workers

Transport
Those who will keep air, water, road and rail passenger and freight transport modes operating during the Covid-19 response.

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When I said that we use hauliers, it is exactly that. A vehicle and driver owned by a 3rd party operator that otherwise would have done other haulier work.

The Haulage Association is just doing its job, that is make a case for their members and get them as much as needed help from the Government.

 

[geordiecolin]

The whole industry is classified as key workers

Transport
Those who will keep air, water, road and rail passenger and freight transport modes operating during the Covid-19 response.

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When I said that we use hauliers, it is exactly that. A vehicle and driver owned by a 3rd party operator that otherwise would have done other haulier work.

The Haulage Association is just doing its job, that is make a case for their members and get them as much as needed help from the Government.

Yes they are classed as keyworkers but they are unable to do their job.

 

[interlog]

Yes they are classed as keyworkers but they are unable to do their job.

And neither are all teachers and nursery workers..... they are in a similar position to the drivers.

As said, the furlough system is available for the drivers so they get 80% of their wage if their bosses decide to select this option. I know that quite a few have.

Compared to say the leisure industry, the haulage industry is not as bad off because some work is available.

I am sure that the Haulage Association will do what they get paid to do, and that is lobby Government.

 

[geordiecolin]

And neither are all teachers and nursery workers..... they are in a similar position to the drivers.

As said, the furlough system is available for the drivers so they get 80% of their wage if their bosses decide to select this option. I know that quite a few have.

Compared to say the leisure industry, the haulage industry is not as bad off because some work is available.

I am sure that the Haulage Association will do what they get paid to do, and that is lobby Government.

There is a huge difference between key workers such as Teachers and nursery workers who can simply walk into a fully functioning School and an industry that relies on keeping in business so that they are able to get back to it asap.
Most Haulage drivers are self employed.

 

[geordiecolin]

No movement of things like bricks, furniture,cloths,ect.ect. No stocking up of pubs and restaunts.No aircraft containing things needing transported on. Container traffic into seaports. No concerts moving from town to town. The list is endless.
My point is that many of these businesses will cease to exist if they do not get the intervention that they are asking for. The haulage industry state that they usually work on 2% which in real terms gives them 2-3 weeks before they go into the red.

 

[interlog]

There is a huge difference between key workers such as Teachers and nursery workers who can simply walk into a fully functioning School and an industry that relies on keeping in business so that they are able to get back to it asap.
Most Haulage drivers are self employed.

But schools and nurseries are not fully functioning though are they. They are all but closed apart from key workers children so they won't need the same amount of teachers so the majority will be sitting at home wondering when things will go back to normal and return back to work.

You will find that most drivers are employed. The number of "owner drivers" is reducing year on year because it simply is not an easy business to make profit on, even when times are good.

 

[interlog]

No movement of things like bricks, furniture,cloths,ect.ect. No stocking up of pubs and restaunts.No aircraft containing things needing transported on. Container traffic into seaports. No concerts moving from town to town. The list is endless.
My point is that many of these businesses will cease to exist if they do not get the intervention that they are asking for. The haulage industry state that they usually work on 2% which in real terms gives them 2-3 weeks before they go into the red.

I agree that margins are slim, hence that even the likes of Eddie Stobart are struggling to keep afloat.

They need help, I never said any different.

 

[geordiecolin]

But schools and nurseries are not fully functioning though are they. They are all but closed apart from key workers children so they won't need the same amount of teachers so the majority will be sitting at home wondering when things will go back to normal and return back to work.

You will find that most drivers are employed. The number of "owner drivers" is reducing year on year because it simply is not an easy business to make profit on, even when times are good.

You did not fully understand the distiction that I was attempting to make. A school and its infrastructior is going to be there tomorrow. Once a large % of an industry is out of business is a lot harder to mobilise.