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Dark, dark side of Jurrasic Park

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by gambyx7, Mar 29, 2017.

    Mar 29, 2017
  1. gambyx7

    gambyx7 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    historian
    Location:
    Europe
    Sorry for opening this thread, but I think I am not only one with this...

    JP came in on-line casino in which I play last year, in october. In very first session (which lasted some 500-600 spins) I managed to get 5-scatter, few very good base-game hits (near 100x) and some 600x win in Triceratops FS. Next month I managed to get full screen on T-rexes (in that feature) twice. In all features (but Velociraptor) I managed to get nice number of wins over 250x and very decent T-rex alerts...

    And than came 2017...and everything changed: like I am playing GOT and TFROL combined. Forst two months were unbereable, march improved just a little becouse of few arouind 150x base game hits, but bonuses became very rare and T-rex feature is utter misery. In 102 attempts I have 7 wins over 100x (157x is the best), I think that average hit is about 15x or 20x. I never had so much one-reel or non winning combos and so far only two 3-reelss: one did complete 5OAK (but lower symbols), other didn't.

    The best win (bonus wise) so far is 260x Brachio. At first I wasn't picking that feature, but need changed that habbit since my favourite T-rex gave me 30 times less than 10x. Other features (2nd and 5th) simply hate me, top win is 25x thanks to the 4 scatter trigger!!!

    The final cut was in Sunday when JP demolished my 220 balance in some 1350 spins (0.60 bet). Drop to 20 balance was quite steep and than I picked Vrachio which gave me hope with 90x win. But in vain since before and after that my biggest wins were about 20x. I really believed in come back, but it never arrived. It was second worst experience (first was with GOT which smashed 300 balance in 1200 spins few months ago).

    I know there are streaks, ups and downs, cold and warm periods but this is simply too much!!!
     
  2. Mar 30, 2017
  3. prop82

    prop82 Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Work in office
    Location:
    Germany
    Did you do all this play in the same casino? I think spreading your deposits over a few casinos could help if you are on a loosing-streak...
     
  4. Mar 30, 2017
  5. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Self- Employeed
    Location:
    Wolverhampton
    Bit wary of contributing to another "Slot has changed" thread as I tend to get held up against a wall at gun point and asked for proof lol :p :p

    I'll simply agree that I have felt the wrath of JP late last and this year.

    I was looking through my "Top 5 wins" (displayed in game by credits) - Lots over 600x - 700x across various casinos. None of these are from recent times, ALL a good while back!!

    The best I've managed this year after checking my records (yes they are vague but accurate) is about 80x. I don't play it as often BUT still do if it is a session lasting more than a straight forward bust and I'm averaging roughly 40x per feature.

    Only thing I can think of is more casinos, more players, wider spread of decent hits......???
     
  6. Mar 30, 2017
  7. osulle

    osulle Ueber Meister CAG mm4 mm1

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    life
    Location:
    Northern hemisphere
    JP has never been all that good to me. Had a few good hits nothing major and that is it. MG is kicking my butt for the last year or so on every slot.
     
  8. Mar 30, 2017
  9. xxshepxx

    xxshepxx Senior Member PABnononaccred MM

    Occupation:
    mechanic
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Havent played it since december

    1800 spins and got a bonus for 3x stake. Its on my necer again list
     
  10. Mar 30, 2017
  11. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Bexhill on sea, England
    I think that was just "beginners luck" which ran out...

    I have NEVER had a decent hit on JP - only 2 wins just over x100 (my best is x106).
    A very hard game to get a decent win on IMHO... but so are most slots!

    KK
     
  12. Mar 30, 2017
  13. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

    Occupation:
    I work :D
    Location:
    Canada
    ive had a few 1000x+ in a few months. I find with this slot you give it 50 spins. If the base game isnt giving you some hits to stay somewhat even its not a slot to stay on. The bonus is only worth chasing to an extent and thats if the base game is throwing out a bit of wins. But its not worth chasing if its sucking your balance because 90% of the time the bonus is going to end up paying under 20x.

    GoT will put you on life tilt because its just brutal.

    And ftrol is another tough one. If its cold just leave cause its another balance drainer when cold and no base game hits.
     
  14. Mar 30, 2017
  15. 09237653

    09237653 Meister Member

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    I personally love JP one of my top games and one of microgaming's best, of course it is a very high variance/volatile game, so you will see a lot of dead bonuses but its how it affords those 300-500-1000x hits which are surprisingly common in my experience.
    Had the most luck with T-rex triceratops and dilophosaurus bonuses but they can all potentially pay well and aside from maybe the brachiosaurus one they are all very high volatility bonuses.

    I had the opposite to beginners luck on this game, when first played on release it was dead af, but it got better over time and now its one of my regular go-to slots.
     
  16. Mar 30, 2017
  17. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist mm2

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    Belfast
    It's high variance, certainly higher than Playboy and arguably even higher than Finer Reels (which is MORE than capable of kicking your ass good and proper). But not as high as Avalon 2 and GOT.

    Features can come thick and fast (I once got 5 in under 150 spins), but they can also be as hard to trigger as a Novo slot.

    Then the features can pay zero (hello Dilophasaurus go fuck yourself already) or peanuts (even Velociraptor, which is probably the best "play the percentages pick", can dip under 5x).

    T-Rex alert was always a big disappointment, very rarely delivering anything of real quality.

    And the base game, though considerably better than the lame T-Rex Alert, has been guilty of rarely delivering anything of real quality too. JP's base game is not a patch on other MG 243 ways games with stacked wilds, such as Dark Knight, Avalon 2 and GOT.

    Put that all together into one session (and it can happen very easily) and you get exactly what the OP is describing.

    For me, the game is the same as it ever was. I still get the same mix of great, good, bad and ugly.
     
  18. Mar 30, 2017
  19. gambyx7

    gambyx7 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    historian
    Location:
    Europe
    I don't know...would that luck lasted for almost 3 months...more some kind of hot periond, I could expect it would change a bit, but not in such bruttal fashion...

    I usually give it 10 mins of play (about 120 spins). If I get bonus, usually pick T-rex (simply can't avoid that habit). Worst thing that can hgappend is to give me under 10x and the makes me crazy and I want to "chase" decent win...(at least 30x)...Both >1200x came rather quickly (some 50 spins from start) and I am still hoping to repeat that...

    Playboy slot is my great wish and it seems it will be soon available in casino where I play.
    I hesitate to play Dilophasaurus....why MG doesn't want to make real sticky wilds? To get win position early (1st and 2nd, 2nd and 3rd or 1st and 3rd reel wild) is so , so painfully hard...And Tricera...I never repeated win from that feature from very first session...I am brought to situation that I don't know what to choose. I had more luck when slot was choosing instead of me and I can't delete achievements...

    TFROL is my favourite slot, but MG killed it with paytable and variance, I wish it is like TS2. I play GOT only after big win in Pretty Kitty (400x to 810x comes nearly every 10 days and I strickly play only 50 spins, more only when it is in good mood and that is rare). IR is mainly cold but on long sessions it can return my balance and even make some profit, same goes for Basketball Star and Lucky Leprechaum. TS2 has best bonuses for me(Valkyrie and Odin), but it takes time to get it...but somehow I don't like the game itself and wildstorms make it worse knowing that after almost 2 year I haven't got anything over 150x from that feature...

    I only can hope that JP will improve...I saw that great jackpot win in Tricera, but I thought it will go near 10000c...so it is quite smaller jackpot than on IR, but way more dangerous game. Things which I hate are stacked symbols (except wilds)...this simply calls for quite high variance in free spins...win big or win nothing...I don't like that concept...

    Sadly, yes. You see, im my country (although in EU) we can't play in foreign on-line casinos. So, I play at state lottery icasino which offers some 40 slots from MG. (no Avalon II, no T2, no Playboy :(). I play Netent at bet-at-home since they have free spin every day without deposit. So, when I collect few euros I bust it on, guess what, DOA. Well, I can't make payout anyway...
     
  20. Mar 31, 2017
  21. gambyx7

    gambyx7 Senior Member

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    historian
    Location:
    Europe
    Today I did it again, but this time with TS2, from 170 to bust. Two FS in some 700 spins. Thank you, MG, I adore you!!!

    Plain robbery!

    Deposited 25, managed to get near 300 thanks to Pretty Kitty, Dragons Dance and Hot as Hades, some third of it spend on lottery. Played JP in two 10-minutes sessions, first ended as started, second downgraded me a bit and then for some reason wanted to play "the most gentle" filthy TS2...Started with superb 80x base game hit and very fast came Loki. That was start of end, no wild magic at all, misery 15x...some 25 spins later bonus again and picked that bastard again and it gave discusting near miss spins (it could easily go to 150x or maybe 200x). I should have stopped, but I didn't....

    So, the pattern is the same, isn't it, Microcloning?
     
  22. Apr 1, 2017
  23. slotsoffun

    slotsoffun Full Member

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    UK
    Hmmm! I'm not in anyway disagreeing with this advice, honestly. But I am definitely interested in the thinking behind this.

    I always thought/was lead to believe that it was regardless of what casino you are playing at, if you hit spin at the right time you get the win.

    The above advice would suggest that each casino 'stores' so many spins, which, actually, is how I think it works. I believe this because I've had a slot become 'unavailable mid session (£100's in) , but the slot was available at other casinos. This raises the, 'how can it be random then' question!


    For me the question is - if I hit spin at VS on DOA at exactly the same time I hit spin at Gutz on DOA - what do I get? Are both spins pulling from the Netent server in real time or does VS have a different stack of stored outcomes compared to outcomes Guts stores on it's servers?
     
  24. Apr 1, 2017
  25. slotsoffun

    slotsoffun Full Member

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    UK
    Hmmm, that is all MG, isn't it? I'm pretty sure I could guess where you're playing. Which has no bearing in outcome, I just have a hunch.

    Personally, I gave up on these awful experience posts long ago. Now don't get me wrong, I will have the odd winge here on CM or via the casino rep but mainly joining on to other players experience.

    Many times have I built a balance to £5000 and watch it vanish. Did i bet to much or did I choose a dead slot??? Who knows! I withdraw over £7,000 in Jul 16, £8000 in Aug 16 and £15,000 in Nov 16 from one great CS approved casino. But, adding up all the deposits, hours played etc etc, was it worth it?

    I'm going off track here, again. Let me say this.... I have hit the T2 'hot mode' a fair few times now, the last at £5 a spin, and do you know what I got.... £200. All the times at £0.90 was nearly £1,000 but at £5 I hit x40 bet.

    I'm still beating around the bush, look - I've deposited THOUSANDS in a few hours before and had nothin, lost everything, I've had weekly bonuses of £35 and withdraw thousands.

    Do I get pissed watching casinos publish there millions in annual profits, especially those on the market, fuck yes.
     
  26. Apr 2, 2017
  27. xxshepxx

    xxshepxx Senior Member PABnononaccred MM

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    mechanic
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Sae a video on YouTube of a streamer getting a full screen of wilds in the feature this week.

    Just when this thread is posted and being discussed they put that out there. Am I the only one that thinks these things are a bit strange.
     
  28. Apr 2, 2017
  29. SPOPPLE

    SPOPPLE Experienced Member

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    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Pretty shit slot tbh, dont struggle to get a feature but its rare they pay over 10-30x and they often pay under 10x. I generally choose T Rex but whenever the "achievements" get unlocked, I dont have the patience for unlocking them again and you just get whatever feature is given.
     
  30. Apr 15, 2017
  31. gambyx7

    gambyx7 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    historian
    Location:
    Europe
    This slot is cursed, broken and hacked....pure disaster...
     
  32. Jun 10, 2017
  33. gambyx7

    gambyx7 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    historian
    Location:
    Europe
    Yesterday I had a quite hard time with JP.

    Day before i finally had some decent win on Triceratops bonus (450x) so I thought I could try again.

    But no, I had very, very long run chasing something good and here are the results of Triceratops bonuses (multipliers):
    9, 13, 13, 19, 22, 49, 9, 7, 22, 6, 35, 11, 15, 5, 6, 8, 8, 16

    Not to mention what injuries that caused to my balance, but I had crazy luck with Pretty Kitty which get me back to starting balance.

    Now, I watched today some twitch slotters which chased Dilophosaurus (which I consider the most hard) and to my surprise it acted very nicely: few one-digit multipliers, but few over 30 or 100x and at last one giant over 1000x....

    So, it seems that I simply had crazy cold streak on Tricera...
     
  34. Jun 10, 2017
  35. slotmaster

    slotmaster NOT Slotting it up!

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    stressville
    You guys should of seen one of my last sessions, hit bonuses very close together and everyone was complete crap no matter which bonus it was.:mad:

    Did have a good trex alert though.
     
  36. Jun 11, 2017
  37. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist mm2

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    Given that Tricera is one of the two features capable of delivering the jackpot win of a full screen of wilds, you should not be the slightest bit surprised by it's variance. Tricera is basically JP's version of Sofia (similar, but not a full clone), and we know the variance on Sofia is very high.
     
  38. Jun 11, 2017
  39. bjtaz44

    bjtaz44 Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    Far north
    Crazy how people have different luck, I continue to win on this slot most times very well. I don't normally ever bet over $3 but was bored and was having a good night when this finally hit a few months ago but I always pick t-rex
    . Dark, dark side of Jurrasic Park: IMG_20170311_035619.jpg,Jun 11, 2017
     

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