Danger! High Voltage - Technical Analysis (The best symbol on Gates of Hell and other info)

The Reel Story

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Aren't megaways just a different kind of matrix game though? and also understandable, why they'd do it.

Most players here have seen the 14,000x win on Bonanza, with diamonds across 5 reels, at 18x multiplier.
And commented on 'what if there was a diamond (or maybe more) on reel 6 too'
Would that really have been possible, at that multiplier (or an even higher multiplier)?

I've had a brief look at Bonanza and it does have defined reel sets, so i believe it's fully reel based and not 'jammin jars' style. So yeh, theoretically it's possible, best i can tell.
 

brianmon

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I've had a brief look at Bonanza and it does have defined reel sets, so i believe it's fully reel based and not 'jammin jars' style. So yeh, theoretically it's possible, best i can tell.
I don't mean that Bonanza works exactly like Jammin jars, and I'm sure the base game works the same as any other 'normal' game, as far as using reel stips go.
BUT.. What's to say the freespins aren't predetermined?
With all those megaways and multipliers, wouldn't it be safer to run several million bonuses, cherry pick the appropriate sequences, to make the correct RTP and control the maximum win. Then select a sequence at random when the feature is triggered?
 

snorky510238

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I can’t see that Bonanza uses fixed reel strips, especially where the scatters are concerned because you never see 2 on the same reel in view unless there is a cascade.

If you then have 2 scatters on 1 reel and you analyse the cascade sometimes there would of only been say 3 or 4 symbols between them. Therefore it should be possible to see 2 in view in normal play given the reels are 6 and 7
deep.

I have also had 6 and 7 nines cascade only to be replaced with another 6 or 7 nines thus meaning there are 14 consecutive. Not saying impossible but highly unlikely.
 

Reelsoffun

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I can’t see that Bonanza uses fixed reel strips, especially where the scatters are concerned because you never see 2 on the same reel in view unless there is a cascade.

If you then have 2 scatters on 1 reel and you analyse the cascade sometimes there would of only been say 3 or 4 symbols between them. Therefore it should be possible to see 2 in view in normal play given the reels are 6 and 7
deep.

I have also had 6 and 7 nines cascade only to be replaced with another 6 or 7 nines thus meaning there are 14 consecutive. Not saying impossible but highly unlikely.


Just because you havent thought about how its possible, dont mean its highly unlikely ;) Its very much possible.
 

PMKFRUITPRO

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U cant get 2 scatters on the same reel upon an ordinary spin. Only from a winning spin and the resulting cascade.
 

PMKFRUITPRO

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95% of the time whatever symbol you get awarded from the GOH bonus it will vanish and go on holiday. It’s funny how nearly every bonus you will see other symbols litter the reels on one spin some landing 3 or 4 deep on one strip. Something that can’t happen to your symbol!!

It seems to me that this bonus over the course of time has been tweaked. When the game was first out GOH was throwing in numerous decent hits. A lot of people now seem to favour HV spins as the GOH seems so blatantly bent. Maybe the original bonus was over generous?? And was a true ‘random spin’ each time before later introducing more gimped reel sets to prevent less monsters on this bonus.

I do still play DHV but the average bonus seems to be incredibly poor. Not only can it make you pay for it but that base is incredibly brutal sometimes.

Obv people will say it’s a very high variance game which I fully understand.

But then so is DOA2 and I see plenty of crazy hits on that!! Which make the regular 10-20X bonuses seem more bearable knowing that it’s more than possible to smash in a monster.

I just don’t see this with DHV and certainly not the gates bonus which by design ‘should’ allow clusters of wilds quite regular. But it clearly doesn’t as it’s a bent bonus!!!
 

PMKFRUITPRO

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It’s all very well BTG saying each spin is a random call to the server during gates. I’m not disputing it is.

But when the reels are gimped from the ordinary reels to make that random call it feels to the player of course that it’s more of a controlled way!

Like putting 20 dice in a bag but 15 of them have the 6 removed. You then select no. 6 as ur symbol. Then the server randomly selects a dice!! It’s still a random call but ur odds are now fucked because of a gimped bag!!
 

Reelsoffun

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It’s all very well BTG saying each spin is a random call to the server during gates. I’m not disputing it is.

But when the reels are gimped from the ordinary reels to make that random call it feels to the player of course that it’s more of a controlled way!

Like putting 20 dice in a bag but 15 of them have the 6 removed. You then select no. 6 as ur symbol. Then the server randomly selects a dice!! It’s still a random call but ur odds are now fucked because of a gimped bag!!

To be honest any seasoned slot player will know that it’s always going to be done like that. In the same way book of ra and clones do it, it’s nothing new.
 

trancemonkey

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To be honest any seasoned slot player will know that it’s always going to be done like that. In the same way book of ra and clones do it, it’s nothing new.

Funnily enough, Book of Ra only has one set of reels for the free games.
 

Siohmy

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Funnily enough, Book of Ra only has one set of reels for the free games.

I’d say Book of Ra is probably one of the most honestly presented slots out there. I’m not a huge fan but I totally feel I know where I am with it, it’s general play level, the reel “honesty” and payout potential. It’s a rarity amongst some truly misleading fare which is coming out.
 

SpinUk

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I’d say Book of Ra is probably one of the most honestly presented slots out there. I’m not a huge fan but I totally feel I know where I am with it, it’s general play level, the reel “honesty” and payout potential. It’s a rarity amongst some truly misleading fare which is coming out.

Would you say that Book of Ra is higher variance than its sequel Book of Ra deluxe? A bonus on the original does seem much harder to get also but also pays more on average (or is this imagined)
 

The Reel Story

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I can’t see that Bonanza uses fixed reel strips, especially where the scatters are concerned because you never see 2 on the same reel in view unless there is a cascade.

If you then have 2 scatters on 1 reel and you analyse the cascade sometimes there would of only been say 3 or 4 symbols between them. Therefore it should be possible to see 2 in view in normal play given the reels are 6 and 7
deep.

I have also had 6 and 7 nines cascade only to be replaced with another 6 or 7 nines thus meaning there are 14 consecutive. Not saying impossible but highly unlikely.

It has reel sets defined in the communications, but it also has a second set of variables called 'RSC' which I can only guess stands for 'Reel Scatters'. My assumption (and I've barely looked into this) is that the scatters are somehow defined separately to the main reel sets (some of the reel sets do have a symbol 11 (bonus) whereas others don't). I'll work it out one day... but not today :p
 

Siohmy

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Would you say that Book of Ra is higher variance than its sequel Book of Ra deluxe? A bonus on the original does seem much harder to get also but also pays more on average (or is this imagined)

Sorry, I was referring to Deluxe. Hardly played the original as preferred the 10 line version.
 

trancemonkey

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It has reel sets defined in the communications, but it also has a second set of variables called 'RSC' which I can only guess stands for 'Reel Scatters'. My assumption (and I've barely looked into this) is that the scatters are somehow defined separately to the main reel sets (some of the reel sets do have a symbol 11 (bonus) whereas others don't). I'll work it out one day... but not today :p

My guess is that the symbols that drop in are picked in an entirely different way and not done via reel bands. I would suspect the reel bands pick the initial outcome, and everything after is done in a slightly different way.

I could be entirely wrong.
 

The Reel Story

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My guess is that the symbols that drop in are picked in an entirely different way and not done via reel bands. I would suspect the reel bands pick the initial outcome, and everything after is done in a slightly different way.

I could be entirely wrong.
That's a good shout. RSC could be reel set cascade or reels cascase.

There are multiple reel sets as well as multiple RSC's as well though, so it'll be interesting to find out what they're all doing. Sigh, i need to look now hahaha
 
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