CWC Deposit Limit Increase

[weesie]

I made another deposit, took no bonus again because of wagering.

Again, I got it up to maybe $45.

It was just yuck! Both deposits this weekend....... YUCK!

 

[Deanna]

I made another deposit, took no bonus again because of wagering.

Again, I got it up to maybe $45.

It was just yuck! Both deposits this weekend....... YUCK!

I still haven't deposited. Thought about it a couple times but I no longer feel the mighty tug. Like I said, I may now only deposit a couple times a month. I can't stand knowing it may only last 5 minutes! I miss playing though.

 

[Aaron21873]

I made another deposit, took no bonus again because of wagering.

Again, I got it up to maybe $45.

It was just yuck! Both deposits this weekend....... YUCK!

Yuck is putting it nicely.... I have been depositing 2-4 times a day for weeks now and I don't even get a decent amount of play time from my deposits at club world. I will put up with sub par customer service and go back to playing where I was before at least the bonus rounds keep your play time per deposit at an acceptable level and I will be able to make withdrawals occasionally. I am sorry but I never see making 35 times play through and making a cash out on a deposit as I have never seen such terrible RTP anywhere. Taking that into consideration along with the ridiculous minimum deposit requirement with the added $3.00 - $5.00 bank fee per deposit and it is just a ignorant move on my part to be depositing there. I generally spend about $1000.00 a month on the low end playing online and I seen that was going to increase significantly playing at CWC. The sad part is Karolina and Stephen are by far the best Casino reps. I have encountered online and I wanted to make CWC my go to place because of that level of CS they bring to the table but it just don't make sense financially. Back to 100% -200% bonuses with 20 x play through for me ladies and gents

 

[winbig]

hopefully later down the line they'll lower the minimum deposit with players
using vouchers.

I seriously doubt it. I've decided to move back to 3Dice when I deposit again tomorrow....at least there you can still deposit with a $10 voucher

 

[horseplayer]

Back to 100% -200% bonuses with 20 x play through for me ladies and gents

Same here. I made a few deposits since the increase but really it felt like I was getting half play. What I mean by that is I generally like to take bonus, deposit minimum and play and if I bust repeat with another minimum deposit.

The 2 $35 deposits I make might as well be 4 deposits at $20 but I feel that by cutting my sessions in half my chances are reduced by half as well.

 

[winbig]

Same here. I made a few deposits since the increase but really it felt like I was getting half play. What I mean by that is I generally like to take bonus, deposit minimum and play and if I bust repeat with another minimum deposit.

The 2 $35 deposits I make might as well be 4 deposits at $20 but I feel that by cutting my sessions in half my chances are reduced by half as well.

Maybe there's a correlation between increasing the minimum deposit and the free chips they're giving away when you claim a specific weekday bonus X amount of times? Or have they been running those types of free chip bonuses for awhile now?

 

[horseplayer]

Maybe there's a correlation between increasing the minimum deposit and the free chips they're giving away when you claim a specific weekday bonus X amount of times? Or have they been running those types of free chip bonuses for awhile now?

Those bonus options have always been there. I never used them because they require 4-5 deposits.

 

[slotmaster]

Honestly this whole thing is silly and is making me shake my head.

If this was bad customer service I would be on board 100% but it's really not, They had to make a business decision. No one likes "higher prices" myself included so I get that.

I do agree clubworld has slipped a little this year but they are still far from being the worst.

If you want more then 5 minutes of play you have to deposit bigger that's the way it is unless you get EXTREMELY lucky.


EDIT:

I know people might not be happy with my OPINION, But come on now guys reading these posts are making me sad and use your head. I have been there myself where I did not have alot of money to play with in a casino in a time of my life and actually have a story where I pleaded with a fellow poker player from the u.k. to not go to Vegas cause he did not have enough funds where he can enjoy himself.

Honestly if you can only do $20 or whatever you should not be playing and go do something else with that money that will bring you more enjoyment. I just don't want to see anyone here going through the stress to play that I have seen.

 

[horseplayer]

Honestly this whole thing is silly and is making me shake my head.

If this was bad customer service I would be on board 100% but it's really not, They had to make a business decision. No one likes "higher prices" myself included so I get that.

I do agree clubworld has slipped a little this year but they are still far from being the worst.

If you want more then 5 minutes of play you have to deposit bigger that's the way it is unless you get EXTREMELY lucky.

No one said it's bad customer service. As a matter of fact we have all praised them for the exceptional CS.

This thread is about that business decision and I would think that Clubworld Group would want to know how their customers are tolerating it.

 

[slotmaster]

I edited the same time you posted to clarify a lil bit but as far as I am reading this is not clubworld, it's the payment processor's?

 

[horseplayer]

Honestly if you can only do $20 or whatever you should not be playing and go do something else with that money that will bring you more enjoyment.

Thanks for the concern.

 

[slotmaster]

Thanks for the concern.

No problem. Except the real concern is you people are putting your accounts at risk so you may not even have to worry about playing anymore anyway.

 

[slotmaster]

Oddly enough as I sit here, If this was online poker it would make more sense and everyone would have a legit argument and I would be with everyone against the minimum deposit increase.

 

[slotmaster]

Question.......

Are they raising the min withdrawal amounts as well? Cause if so that would be terrible and scratch some of the above and I co-sign the player petition.

 

[Deanna]

Slotmaster -

None of this is about CWC customer service. Their reps and customer service are the absolute best around in my opinion and I've stated that in the forum a thousand times. And please don't assume to know we (meaning others who have posted also) don't have money to play on. I probably spent a few thousand last month alone. The point is I actually DO like to deposit small, take the bonus and as you say "See if I get lucky". Which I have and I'm sure others have too. Then it's fun to watch your bankroll increase and know you only put in $21. I might play all day on that one deposit where I get the "fun" out of the play, whether in the end I play it all back or whether I cash out. I normally don't bet over a $1 unless I'm up a few hundred. And then the highest I'll go is $2 with a tight butt the whole time. It's the thrill of the chase. I'm not trying to get rich, nor am I trying to bankrupt myself. I just much prefer 4 deposits in a day of $21 rather than 2 deposits of $35 and the higher WR.

BTW, I deposited twice this morning, each time lasted around 5 minutes. I took the bonus on one and not the other. I feel cheated today out of the 2 other deposits I would have made and the 2 other chances I would have had to "get lucky".

This is all just my opinion too though. We're frustrated because we LIKE CWC and that's where we want to play.

 

[weesie]

Honestly this whole thing is silly and is making me shake my head.

If this was bad customer service I would be on board 100% but it's really not, They had to make a business decision. No one likes "higher prices" myself included so I get that.

I do agree clubworld has slipped a little this year but they are still far from being the worst.

If you want more then 5 minutes of play you have to deposit bigger that's the way it is unless you get EXTREMELY lucky.


EDIT:

I know people might not be happy with my OPINION, But come on now guys reading these posts are making me sad and use your head. I have been there myself where I did not have alot of money to play with in a casino in a time of my life and actually have a story where I pleaded with a fellow poker player from the u.k. to not go to Vegas cause he did not have enough funds where he can enjoy himself.

Honestly if you can only do $20 or whatever you should not be playing and go do something else with that money that will bring you more enjoyment. I just don't want to see anyone here going through the stress to play that I have seen.

Wow!

Take your $20 and go find something else to do that you enjoy?

Seriously?

CWC is an awesome group! Their customer service is practically second to none. And their withdrawal service, at least the one I use is just about perfect.

I think the thing that bothers us, well me anyway, is the fact that

there are several other casinos, quite a few, that have minimum deposits of $10 or even $5.

So we don't understand why, if THEY can do it, why can't CWC group.

Bonuses are not worth taking if you don't think you have a chance in

hell of clearing the wagering. And this increase makes that an even

harder job to accomplish.

Examples; Some of their common promos:

$20 deposit @55% = $31.00 w/bonus x 25 = $775.00 wagering

$20 deposit @70% =$34.00 w/bonus x 25 = $850.00 wagering

$20 deposit @77% = $35.40 w/bonus x 25 = $885.00 wagering

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$35 deposit @55% = $54.25 w/bonus x 25= $1386.25 wagering

$35 deposit @70% = $59.50 w/bonus x 25 = $1487.50 wagering

$35 deposit @77% = $61.95 w/bonus x 25 = $1548.75 wagering


Yes, we get to start with a bigger balance, but, and I don't know about

everyone else, but, those wagering totals definitely scare me

from taking a bonus. Just knowing you are going in with that

amount to accomplish is almost depressing to think about.


(And yes, I take offence to the last part of your edit!)


I am still wanting to know how this "benefits both of us", per Karolina

words.

 

[winbig]

I edited the same time you posted to clarify a lil bit but as far as I am reading this is not clubworld, it's the payment processor's?

No, this is about clubworld, not their processors. Other casinos are still offering $10+ minimum deposits if you use a voucher, but clubworld, et all, are upping the ante for those, too, at $35 a pop.

 

[BMWSTACK]

Wow!


I think the thing that bothers us, well me anyway, is the fact that

there are several other casinos, quite a few, that have minimum deposits of $10 or even $5.

So we don't understand why, if THEY can do it, why can't CWC group.

Bonuses are not worth taking if you don't think you have a chance in

hell of clearing the wagering. And this increase makes that an even

harder job to accomplish.

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Nothing to understand they did what they wanted to. As a matter of fact Jackpot Capital is $45 on a credit card deposit.

I would have certainly also liked to stay where it is. Even though I will deposit a lot more than $45, I personally don't play at JC because of the minimum. I can see how the increase at CW may lose depositors.

 

[winbig]

I can see how the increase at CW may lose depositors.

Yep, and it's pretty sad, because I'm fairly certain that low-rollers are their "bread & butter," so to speak. High rollers deposit a lot at any given time, but not only do they deposit big, but they also win big, as well. It's kind of backwards, as which would you rather pay out? 10x a $1k deposit, or 10x a $100 deposit?

 

[paul7388]

Personally I don't see it as that big a deal.

I know the deposit minimum has went up but its not exactly that high. A lot of casinos etc. that I use have got minimum deposits of say £20 which is nearly $35.

I know people have mentioned they could deposit $5 or $10 before etc. but that's like me depositing £3 or £7 and very few casinos would accept it.

People need to realise that everything in the world goes up in price. You can buy a lot less for $20 than you could 5 years ago and it works the same for casinos as any other business.

And obviously it is in players benefit to be making less deposits if possible. Their are so many posts about processors shutting down and players not getting paid or being unable to deposit as yet another processor has shut. By increasing deposit limits so instead of someone depositing 4 x $20 they have to now deposit 2 x $40 means less transactions going through and less chance of processor getting shut.

And as has already been explained in many posts in other threads every transaction made a casino gets charged for. So in the present climate it makes financial sense for the casino to try and get people to make larger deposits instead of small multiple deposits like people have stated in this thread that they do.

Its been 7 pages of exactly the same. Sorry but the casino has made a decision which I think is quite reasonable. People now have the choice of depositing slightly more or playing elsewhere if they are not happy.

 

[Stovetopp]

I would like to chime in here1

THIS IS NOT MEANT AS A "PUT DOWN" to anyone who advocates lower minimum deposits. to these folks I sincerely mean this question

How does one play with 20 or 25 dollar deposit! To be honest when I started playing at CW(after rave reviews here) I played the min $21 for fun Well it was no fun at all.
The $21 bucks went in no time esp. playing Goldbeard or aztec treasure.

Honestly , I wish i could get at least an hour of fun. I would deposit a lot. As it is a $100 deposit doesn't last 10 mins playing slots. Of course occasionally one gets lucky.
I am talking about US players who are stuck with the dreaded RTG.
I see others play 9 cents and 27 cents on Dead or Alive and win big amounts

What is the secret of playing real low ball just to have some fun!

 

[winbig]

I would like to chime in here1

THIS IS NOT MEANT AS A "PUT DOWN" to anyone who advocates lower minimum deposits. to these folks I sincerely mean this question

How does one play with 20 or 25 dollar deposit! To be honest when I started playing at CW(after rave reviews here) I played the min $21 for fun Well it was no fun at all.
The $21 bucks went in no time esp. playing Goldbeard or aztec treasure.

Honestly , I wish i could get at least an hour of fun. I would deposit a lot. As it is a $100 deposit doesn't last 10 mins playing slots. Of course occasionally one gets lucky.
I am talking about US players who are stuck with the dreaded RTG.
I see others play 9 cents and 27 cents on Dead or Alive and win big amounts

What is the secret of playing real low ball just to have some fun!

If a $100 deposit isn't lasting 10 minutes, you're betting too high. :/

 

[Aaron21873]

I would like to chime in here1

THIS IS NOT MEANT AS A "PUT DOWN" to anyone who advocates lower minimum deposits. to these folks I sincerely mean this question

How does one play with 20 or 25 dollar deposit! To be honest when I started playing at CW(after rave reviews here) I played the min $21 for fun Well it was no fun at all.
The $21 bucks went in no time esp. playing Goldbeard or aztec treasure.

Honestly , I wish i could get at least an hour of fun. I would deposit a lot. As it is a $100 deposit doesn't last 10 mins playing slots. Of course occasionally one gets lucky.
I am talking about US players who are stuck with the dreaded RTG.
I see others play 9 cents and 27 cents on Dead or Alive and win big amounts

What is the secret of playing real low ball just to have some fun!

I play to have fun and occasionally have a awesome round with the slots and make a withdrawal.
I personally like big bonuses because I play lowball 25-75 cents on super high variance games like
mystic dragon etc. Many evenings have surprised me with a 250.00- 500.00 hit on a 40 or 50 cent bet. Then I get to play high roller and bet 2.00 - 12.00 dollars a spin and hope I hit a big cash out. If not then no sweat I am only down 20-25 bucks and had a fun evening. I have gotten good at playing conservative enough to turn most 20.00 deposits into a few hundred problem for me is when I go big bets I go all or nothing and I usually pay the price by busting my bank roll

 

[cpdnd31]

Hi guys After reading this thread I understand why you are upset with the increase. But we need to think about why they may have done the increase. Many have sad they would deposit 21.00 many times in a night. The pure volume a processor gets monthly can cause problems for a casino. If one person does 3 21.00 deposits and another person does 3 as well it adds up. I know it suks having to deposits a little bit more and I know it adds to the play thru however it keeps the casino online with a good processor so we can play then we have to just understand and deal with the increase. I noticed some have pointed out that PP was raised as well. I think in that case CW is trying to prevent what just happened to 3 dice. Summer is always a rough season for casinos more transactions. Hang in there maybe one day USA will open its doors and we can laugh about all of the hoops we jumped through to play on line.

Good luck !

 

[winbig]

Hi guys After reading this thread I understand why you are upset with the increase. But we need to think about why they may have done the increase. Many have sad they would deposit 21.00 many times in a night. The pure volume a processor gets monthly can cause problems for a casino. If one person does 3 21.00 deposits and another person does 3 as well it adds up. I know it suks having to deposits a little bit more and I know it adds to the play thru however it keeps the casino online with a good processor so we can play then we have to just understand and deal with the increase. I noticed some have pointed out that PP was raised as well. I think in that case CW is trying to prevent what just happened to 3 dice. Summer is always a rough season for casinos more transactions. Hang in there maybe one day USA will open its doors and we can laugh about all of the hoops we jumped through to play on line.

Good luck !

The issue is that they're paying the same % whether someone deposits $21 or if they deposit $35. It's not like they're having to eat the exchange fees, as it's been well documented here that the charge is passed on to the player.