Crypto's Progressive Progressive's food for thought..

BubbleG

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Good or bad for us players?? Or just Mega Marketing machines??

This is something thats bugged me for a while and after playing the new 20 line Rags to Riches slot I thought i'd share my thoughts. The proof will be in the slot charts tracking but I feel if this game takes off in favour of the 3 reel original we will see a major decrease in the number of jackpots hit and we may be witness to this very effect now with the huge Millionaires Club jackpot.

What do I mean by progressive progressive you ask? Well take the average MG progressive, the jackpot is won by hitting the normal jackpot symbols on a particular line however the likes of Millionaires Club and the new 20 line Rags require a certain amount of player intervention therefore the end result of the bonus game where the JP is won cannot be known because the game doesnt know what the player is goin to do at each intervention. Unlike the original versions of both games which only gives a single spin of the wheel.

I wonder how many Millionaires Club jackpots could have been won but wernt because the player didnt have that one more spin? Off course an imposibble question to answer but i'm sure if every player had just "gone for it" on every bonus then the JP would have gone several times by now...
 

BlackjackInfo

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That's an interesting observation, and a question I have wondered about myself. One angle makes it good for savvy players though. It means the progressives are more likely to get to a point where the return on the machine is over 100%.

There's an ever better example of this at RTG, where the "It's Good to Be Bad" progressive has never hit at either denomination (25c or $1). (At least, since I've been tracking them for a year and a half.)

In that game, it's tough to stay the course and go for the progressive, because you're offered more and more free spins to bail out. I suspect that the 25c version is well over 100% return.
 

BubbleG

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BlackjackInfo said:
That's an interesting observation, and a question I have wondered about myself. One angle makes it good for savvy players though. It means the progressives are more likely to get to a point where the return on the machine is over 100%.
I'm not sure this is the case. We have to take into account the fundamental difference between a normal slot and a progressive. The progresssive jackpot grows proportionally to the amount of money wagered on the game, all the money for the jackpot is pooled together from all the various casinos on the network. For the sake of a huge progressive we also sacrifice game play, smaller normal wins, poor bonus game etc whilst all the time the casino's are collecting money towards the eventual JP hit. The bigger it gets the better both for the player who hits but especially for the casinos selling the hugest online slot JP on the planet........
 

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Might be wrong, but I think the jackpot spin is pre-determined, regardless of the spinny wheel prettyness... My guess is you'll go arrow, arrow, arrow - jackpot. So no intervention/carrying on makes any difference to winning the jackot.
 

BubbleG

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If the bonus game is truly random you should be able to win the jackpot on any game even if you didnt start with an arrow, not sure it makes a difference but notice you only get one shot at the inner wheel.

The new rags to riches has scrapped the wheel totally in favour of a Hi/Lo, which you need to get 18 hilo gambles correct (think you can make 2 mistakes) to get a shot at the jackpot. Every 6 gambles you are offered a win at which point you can select to carry on to the next level risking a consolation or take the prize offered.
 
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