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Crown Vegas spam.

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by winbig, May 28, 2007.

    May 28, 2007
  1. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Has anyone else been receiving spam from Crown Vegas?

    I had a chat with their live support, and found that they don't have an affiliate program at all.

    This only leads me to believe that this spam is coming directly from someone that works for them in-house.

    When will they ever learn that most players won't do business with spammers?

     
  2. May 29, 2007
  3. adedpoet

    adedpoet Dormant account

    Occupation:
    sales
    Location:
    usa
    I got the same today...From someone named Janet Osborne.
     
  4. May 29, 2007
  5. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Me too,

    Looks like they shot themselves in the foot saying they don't have an affiliate program. They have lost the main excuse for this spam, the "rogue affiliate".

    A 10% bonus in a spam will not even tempt the bonus whores - what a waste of time.
     
  6. May 29, 2007
  7. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    same here to 2 different email add's :mad:
     
  8. May 29, 2007
  9. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Seems as if it was sent by a "rogue" employee. They've actually been quite responsive via email regarding this situation. I basically cornered them, pressing the issue of it being an employee that sent the spam. This is the last email I received from them:

     
    1 person likes this.
  10. May 29, 2007
  11. AudiManinBoro

    AudiManinBoro Ueber Meister MM

    Occupation:
    Sales
    Location:
    UK
    lol good luck getting further feedback, my guess is their fully aware of what went on.
     
  12. May 29, 2007
  13. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Either way, I won't let this issue die. I hate spammers :)

    Judging by previous posts about CV in the forum here, I guess they're still buying member lists from other casinos.
     
  14. Jul 6, 2007
  15. Rick@CrownVegas

    Rick@CrownVegas Dormant account

    Occupation:
    hola
    Location:
    Antigua
    Affiliate program

    Hi Guys,

    I am new to the board and would just like to introduce myself. There was a previous Rick who worked with us and used this login in the past, however he is no longer affiliated with CV at all.

    I would like to make it clear that CV does not spam nor does it condone this type of marketing in any way. We do in fact have an affiliate program, which used to operate under casinorevenueshare.com. This URL is no longer active since were actually redesigning our entire affiliate portal and backend, however during the transition we are still providing support to our existing affiliates. Having said this, we have and we will continue to monitor our affiliates marketing techniques, and any one found to be marketing via bulk mail will be removed from the program.

    Our affiliate program will be available to new signups by the end of the summer and we look forward to working with all of you.
     
  16. Jul 6, 2007
  17. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Then explain why I keep getting spam for your casino across multiple email accounts.

    Also explain why in the world there is no affiliate code in each spam link within said emails.

    The links in this spam send a person directly to You must register/login in order to see the link..
     
  18. Jul 6, 2007
  19. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    They must have charitable affiliates, willing to work for free:rolleyes:
     
  20. Jul 6, 2007
  21. Rick@CrownVegas

    Rick@CrownVegas Dormant account

    Occupation:
    hola
    Location:
    Antigua
    ...

    I can't tell you why your getting emails across multiple accounts, you know where you have posted your email address in the past, not me.

    I have no intentions of coming here to argue with you over this issue, our spam policy is stringent, and always has been, and any affiliate found bulk emailing with out proper permissions will have their account closed. I think only once you become a CV affiliate will you really understand how we operate. I can't discuss the particulars of the email you are referring to since I personally never saw it, however If your helpful enough you can forward a copy of it to me with full headers and I can direct it to the proper person here at CV.

    Please send future correspondence regarding this issue as a pm.
     
  22. Jul 6, 2007
  23. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania

    As said above, unless you have an affiliate that is working for free, the spam would not be sent by none other than CV. I'm not arguing the subject, just stating the cold hard facts.

    Next time I get more of this spam, I'll be sure to send it to you.


    Oh yea, have we forgotten that an employee of your casino has already admitted that it was someone internally sending this spam?
     
  24. Jul 6, 2007
  25. Rick@CrownVegas

    Rick@CrownVegas Dormant account

    Occupation:
    hola
    Location:
    Antigua
    ...

    I am aware that something like this happened in the past and unfortunately due to the nature of the gaming business and the marketing tactics that many affiliates and others resort to, it is impossible for us to block every and any email that contains CV links. However once we isolate the incident, whether it be an affiliate, employee, ex employee, etc, you can be rest assured that we will take immediate action to put an end to it. In any case, please feel free to forward me any complaints you have via pm and please include full headers so we can target the issue specifically.
     
  26. Jul 7, 2007
  27. kwblue

    kwblue Webmaster webmeister

    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    USA
    Winbig - you are absolutely correct, IMO... The spam came thru with NO affiliate tag, so it was sent direct from CrownVegas IMO. Affiliates do not work for free.

    It doesn't matter if they paid someone to spam or if they did it themselves, really. Reason enough to not play there for me. Places willing to spam are places you should not frequent.
     
    1 person likes this.
  28. Jul 7, 2007
  29. mrracetrack

    mrracetrack Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    North of Pluto
    This is the same casino that about two years ago was posting on numerous forums offering a data base for sale...

    Then the manager/owner "Rick" came on here claiming it was an "ex employee" also named "Rick" that was responsible for this.

    Sounds rather similar to this spam issue... :rolleyes:
     
  30. Jul 7, 2007
  31. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

    Occupation:
    Pencil Pusher
    Location:
    Up$hitCreek
    How about this one.... Headers shown. I have X'ed out all the email addresses that this was mailed to. Shame... If you're going to SPAM, please have a little courtesy and BCC so everyone doesn't see everyone else's email address. If you click on the renewspr.com link, it takes you to crownvegas.com. Sheesh... I'm not real savvy on reading headers and the stuff hidden in links, but I didn't see an affiliate code anywhere. Maybe some of you kind folks can shed more light.

    And just for the record, as I was typing this up, a crownvegas email (similar but with different receiver's emails showing) popped up in my hubby's mail. (He doesn't sign up at casinos, he's a poker player.)

     
  32. Jul 7, 2007
  33. wangpoker

    wangpoker Experienced Member PABnononaccred2 webmeister

    Occupation:
    affiliate marketing
    Location:
    Ontario/Canada
    I got the SPAM too.

     
  34. Jul 7, 2007
  35. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

    Occupation:
    Pencil Pusher
    Location:
    Up$hitCreek
    Simmo can you edit out the 'sent to' email addresses in wang's post, please? Thanks.

    Soooo.... These are coming from hotmail accounts? But no affiliate links? What about the different links we click on to get to CrownVegas? renewspr in one and clodpri in Wang's.... Does that mean/do anything? (Like I said, I have no clue about referer links, etc.) The send to email addresses do not appear to be random/bot generated addresses (Alfred1, Alfred2, Alfreda, Alfredb that sort of thing) so they're coming from a list?

    Just thinking out loud.
     
  36. Jul 7, 2007
  37. Rick@CrownVegas

    Rick@CrownVegas Dormant account

    Occupation:
    hola
    Location:
    Antigua
    CV

    We will investigate any alleged spam complaints if you could please PM me the emails you are receiving.
     
  38. Jul 8, 2007
  39. Duxrgreat

    Duxrgreat Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Coffee sales
    Location:
    Federal Way, Washington
    Crown Vegas

    I received this e-mail on July 4th..Never been to Crown Vegas before..Did a little research and found this forum..Looks like spam to me too..Now I know for sure I won't sign up
    Thanks all for the info

    Salutations,

    You don't have to fly to Vegas to play anymore! CrownVegas
    is now accepting US players. In addition, we're giving a
    10% signup bonus to all new players.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Since 2002, CrownVegas has been providing the most exciting
    gaming experience in the world. We promise that you won't
    be disappointed!

    Have a great day!

    Reorder Update

    Reorder?
    Hmmm

    Received: from bay0-omc2-s39.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.175])
    by rwcrmxc11.comcast.net (rwcrmxc11) with ESMTP
    id <20070704194720r1100bcijde>; Wed, 4 Jul 2007 19:47:20 +0000
    X-Originating-IP: [65.54.246.175]
    Received: from BAY124-W42 ([207.46.11.205]) by bay0-omc2-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668);
    Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:47:13 -0700
    Message-ID: <BAY124-W42E6D177BA1761B9674BF3B1030@phx.gbl>
    Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
    boundary="_7a229c3a-a837-4484-8fda-fc3c819fcfce_"
    X-Originating-IP: [70.86.176.205]
    From: Reorder Update <babsjohnk1775@hotmail.com>
    To: <w.nightingale@comcast.net>, <cograbisz@msn.com>, <eob4222@gmail.com>,
    <dbolz02@msn.com>
    CC: <@comcast.net>
    Subject: US players welcome
    Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 15:47:13 -0400
    Importance: Normal
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Return-Path: This email is not visible to you.
    X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2007 19:47:13.0125 (UTC) FILETIME=[1DF24950:01C7BE74]

    I also like it when they include some other poor suckers e-mail here too..
     

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