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Cracking the slot reels - Here you go!

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by kimss, Aug 12, 2007.

    Aug 12, 2007
  1. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Alot of people have interest in the reels on the slots, how do they look. I guess we can share with eachother how they infact are mapped. Here are some of mine for you:

    Reels in this post:
    • Tomb Raider
    • Secret Admirer
    • Bush Telegraph
    • Loaded
    • Moonshine

    Tomb Raider:
    0 - Tomb Raider
    1 - Golden Statue
    2 - Brown symbol with cogs
    3 - Laura Croft
    4 - Tiger
    5 - A
    6 - K
    7 - Q
    8 - J
    9 - 10
    10 - Feature trigger

    Reel 1 : 0,10,6,5,1,4,3,8,0,7,5,1,6,2,4,1,7,8,3,9,8,1,9,7
    Reel 2 : 0,1,7,3,6,7,9,5,2,8,1,3,5,9,7,2,9,10,6,5,4,9,1,6,3,7,8,4
    Reel 3 : 0,9,3,2,8,7,1,9,5,4,6,5,8,10,9,6,4,8,5,7,1,9,3,6,4,8,2,7,5,4,6,7,3,8
    Reel 4 : 0,3,8,4,7,2,6,4,9,8,1,7,6,5,2,4,3,7,2,9,10,8,7,3,5,7,2,5,4,6,5,1,9,5,7,2,8,3,6,9
    Reel 5 : 0,9,1,8,7,3,2,8,6,10,9,4,5,3,7,6,2,4,5,8,4,6,2,1,5,7,3,9,2,7,6,4,8,1,3,5,9,4,2,7

    Secret Admirer:
    0 - Wild
    1 - Red Secret Admirer Heart
    2 - Purple Avmor amulett
    3 - Rose, heart shape
    4 - Perfume bottkle, blue
    5 - Red rose
    6 - A
    7 - K
    8 - Q
    9 - J
    10 - 10
    11 - 9
    12 - 8
    13 - 7
    14 - Diamond ring, feature

    Reel 1: 0,9,1,7,12,3,9,4,13,11,12,5,8,12,2,10,12,13,3,10,12,9,11,14,9,11,12,5,8,12,9,10,8,10,11,10,5,10,9,11,1,10,8,5,6,3,10,8,12,9
    Reel 2: 0,6,9,3,13,11,9,5,11,2,7,12,14,6,8,13,1,6,8,4,10,9,11,7,5,12,10,11,2,13,4,7,14,12,6,3,8,10,9,7,10,4,6,8,12,5,11,9,6,4
    Reel 3: 0,1,12,11,7,3,13,9,2,13,10,11,7,5,7,14,13,6,7,8,2,7,13,4,12,7,11,9
    Reel 4: 0,6,3,7,1,2,12,4,13,14,8,6,3,9,4,11,10,4,8,1,7,4,5,11,8,3,7,10
    Reel 5: 0,3,11,5,13,9,12,10,2,8,4,12,11,7,6,3,12,5,10,14,12,1,12,3,5,11,7,5

    Bush Telegraph:
    0 - Wild
    1 - Bongo Bonus
    2 - Purple animal
    3 - Swine
    4 - Parrot
    5 - A
    6 - K
    7 - Q
    8 - J
    9 - 10
    10 - Feature symbol
    Reel 1: 0,10,6,5,1,4,3,8,0,7,5,1,6,2,4,1,7,8,3,9,8,1,9,7
    Reel 2: 0,1,7,3,6,7,9,5,2,8,1,3,5,9,7,2,9,10,6,5,4,9,1,6,3,7,8,4
    Reel 3: 0,9,3,2,8,7,1,9,5,4,6,5,8,10,9,6,4,8,5,7,1,9,3,6,4,8,2,7,5,4,6,7,3,8
    Reel 4: 0,3,8,4,7,2,6,4,9,8,1,7,6,5,2,4,3,7,2,9,10,8,7,3,5,7,2,5,4,6,5,1,9,5,7,2,8,3,6,9
    Reel 5: 0,9,1,8,7,3,2,8,6,10,9,4,5,3,7,6,2,4,5,8,4,6,2,1,5,7,3,9,2,7,6,4,8,1,3,5,9,4,2,7

    Loaded:
    0 - 777 gangster
    1 - lady, black hair
    2 - lady, purple outfit
    3 - lady, yellow hair
    4 - thin man, gold chain and brown jacket
    5 - fat man, green outfit
    6 - white capitol building
    7 - red boat
    8 - purple car
    9 - music price
    10 - scratch machine
    11 - hand with microphone, feature

    Reel 1: 0,10,5,8,3,7,4,8,2,6,11,10,3,9,4,8,6,10,5,9,2,7,6,11,10,1,9,4,8,5,7,10,3,9,6,7
    Reel 2: 0,7,2,9,4,10,5,8,3,10,4,9,5,8,6,1,11,10,3,9,5,7,1,8,2,7,4,10,6,9,3,8,5,7,6
    Reel 3: 0,7,1,8,4,10,6,9,3,7,10,5,9,4,11,10,2,9,6,8,4,7,5,6,2,10,3,9,6,8,5,7,1,8
    Reel 4: 0,7,6,2,9,3,10,5,8,1,9,4,10,3,7,9,2,10,11,8,6,7,3,8,4,10,6,9,5,7,1,6,8
    Reel 5: 0,10,6,9,1,8,4,6,7,3,11,10,5,9,2,8,1,7,4,10,6,9,2,8,5,7,10,6,9,3,8,6,7

    Moonshine:
    0 - Grandma
    1 - Old man with pipe, and brown hat and red eyebrows
    2 - guitar playing man
    3 - Man with big feet and black hair
    4 - Pig
    5 - pumpkin pie
    6 - red beans in frying pan
    7 - purple pot
    8 - box of sardines
    9 - Green fruit slices
    10 - Bonus bottle
    11 - Police officer

    Main reel 1: 0,9,3,8,5,7,6,4,7,11,9,2,8,6,3,10,7,6,5,8,6,0,9,7,4,2,11,5,8,6,10,9,1,8,7
    Main reel 2: 0,6,9,7,3,8,10,7,2,8,5,9,11,7,3,6,4,2,6,10,8,7,4,11,8,5,9,0,6,1,7,5,8,6,9
    Main reel 3: 0,9,7,4,2,5,8,7,6,10,9,3,8,5,7,1,6,0,9,4,8,6,7,11,9,2,8,4,7,6,11,9,1,8,3,6,5,8
    Main reel 4: 0,6,9,3,7,9,4,8,7,2,0,1,4,7,6,10,9,5,8,7,6,0,9,6,8,5,4,1,11,7,3,8,11,5,2,8,4,9,5
    Main reel 5: 0,7,6,8,4,7,5,9,10,3,1,4,7,5,11,8,1,9,0,7,8,2,5,6,11,1,3,9,11,6,7,4,8,5,9,2,6,8,4,9

    Symbols are the same for bonus reels, except other images.

    Bonus reel 1: 0,9,3,5,1,7,4,6,0,9,5,11,4,8,11,6,8,2,11,6,7,5
    Bonus reel 2: 0,9,7,5,11,8,5,6,1,5,4,7,0,9,6,3,8,2,6,4
    Bonus reel 3: 0,5,6,11,7,5,4,9,0,6,4,8,2,6,1,8,5,3,7,9
    Bonus reel 4: 0,5,8,4,6,1,5,6,3,11,7,4,9,0,8,2,6,5,11,9,7
    Bonus reel 5: 0,7,6,5,1,8,6,11,9,4,6,2,7,11,5,4,8,5,9,3
     
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  2. Aug 12, 2007
  3. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Excellent! :notworthy
    How did you get the data? Got any more?

    I plotted out Tomb Raider myself - took bleedin hours & hours! :eek:

    Some other members have posted ThunderStruck/Ladies/Spring and Harveys in the past too.
    :thumbsup:
     
  4. Aug 12, 2007
  5. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    All the above slots took infact under 10 minutes, :) I posted in some other thread, also two years ago, how you do it. It's really simple. The flash casino infact feeds you the reel layout, together with symbol positions and symbol numbers for each spin - so by looking at the HTTP traffic to the browser you crack the reels in under 10 spins on all the videoslots with feature. The others don't feed the reel layout, so there you need say 20-30 minutes pr game to crack tops. Good thing is you get 100% accuracy this way.

    Cracking the other games is harder since you need to sniff TCP traffic (windump is your dos tool), however I have no experience in depacking TCP packets so it's only garble to me.

    Maby i'll take a wack at the rest of the slots tomorrow if not someone else does it by then.

    I recomend HTTPWatch for IE, nice tool to grab all the traffic between the browser and MG-server.

    I have alot of questions regarding the other information comming in the XML feed, but I will save this for an appropriate thread - trying to keep this thread strictly reel cracking, :)
     
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  6. Aug 13, 2007
  7. moonchica

    moonchica Stiletto Bandita

    Occupation:
    PR Consultant
    Location:
    D.C. Area
    Why

    I know there is a lot of work in this, and people are interested, but I have to ask what good does it do? How can this information help?

    Sorry to be dense, but I don't understand how this translates into helping you beat slots.
     
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  8. Aug 13, 2007
  9. SlotsWizard

    SlotsWizard Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    I currently work for the Wizard of Odds
    Location:
    North of Antarctica
    I wish I could thank you 20 times for this! I suppose I could do the same by loading Ethereal and doing it myself but this is great!

    It won't help you beat slots - but it will help you estimate the theoretical return %, as opposed to relying on empirical monthly data that the casinos publish.
     
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  10. Aug 13, 2007
  11. Zoozie

    Zoozie Ueber Meister CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Software Developer
    Location:
    Denmark
    Yes, this is a major breakthrough! I will add the new slots to the slot simulator in 1-2 days. It will be interesting so see how much the payout differ between them.

    I will need help from the veterans with Tomb Raider because of the picking bonus games. Since the symbols has to be lined up the usual left-to-right way, the
    analyzer can be used on it, we just need to know what the average win is in terms of bet-size for 3,4,5 scatters. Anyone?
    The other more special slots with weird features can not be analyzed at the time. But it can be implemented of course if I have time.

    I did a lot of work trying to get the reels a faster way, but it was stupid that I did not sniff the traffic during initialization of the slots. I even decompiled the flash code but could not find the reels. (which should have given me a clue at least)

    Also now when we have the reels available so easy, we can see very fast if any MG updates actually are slot updates changing the reels/payouts.

    Zooizie
     
  12. Aug 13, 2007
  13. SlotsWizard

    SlotsWizard Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    I currently work for the Wizard of Odds
    Location:
    North of Antarctica
    You bet!

    The player picks 1 idol for each symbol that triggered the feature (3, 4 or 5).

    Each idol contains between 12x - 100x of the amount bet on the payline.

    So the average win per idol is ([100 - 12] / 2) + 12 = 56x payline bet, therefore the combined average wins are:

    3 idols = 168x payline bet = 11.20x total bet if all 15 lines are played
    4 idols = 224x payline bet = 14.93x total bet if all 15 lines are played
    5 idols = 280x payline bet = 18.67x total bet if all 15 lines are played

    To make it easier, just treat 3 idols as a regular payline win of 168 coins, 4 idols as a regular payline win of 224 coins, and 5 idols as a regular payline win of 280 coins.

    And this applies to Bush Telegraph, Mermaids Millions, Wasabi-San and World Cup Mania since they're all clones of the same game.
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2007
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  14. Aug 13, 2007
  15. Zoozie

    Zoozie Ueber Meister CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Software Developer
    Location:
    Denmark
    It is weird the slots works in a different way if there is a feature or not. Maybe there is another mechanism that decides it. Have you tried the really old MG slots, those without features ? (5 or 9 liners, cant remember which)

    Zoozie
     
  16. Aug 13, 2007
  17. SlotsWizard

    SlotsWizard Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    I currently work for the Wizard of Odds
    Location:
    North of Antarctica
    I screwed up a little. Fortunately I was able to edit the above post, which now contains the correct figures. I had forgotten to add the 12 back in to the per-idol payout.
     
  18. Aug 13, 2007
  19. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Looks like the non-feature slots have hard-coded reels, but for some reason feature slots needs to be fed the reel-layout... I wonder if the reel-layout changes sometimes...

    Hehe, going thorugh action scripting is a lot of fun but most likely the flash binaries we download are only for presentational purposes (as you figured out by not finding what your were looking for). The interesting thing is that all reels, payouts, gamble, whatever are fed in the XML stream. The SWF binarie is just a handy tool that will visually show whatever the XML stream wants it to be. By this I mean, if there is any tricks hidden somewhere it will be impossible for us to find it in here - we need the code from the server - which we will never get anyway.

    *******************************************************

    Then we have some more reels to line up, in this lineup:

    • Cashville
    • Tally Ho
    • What on Earth
    • Reel Strike
    • HoHoHo
    • Mermaids Millions
    • Big Kahuna

    Cashville
    0 - Wild with red ruby
    1 - Bill Burton
    2 - Dame Von Deeds
    3 - Sir Sterling
    4 - Betty Boodle
    5 - sigar dollar
    6 - Blue dollars, purple thing
    7 - green dollars with coins
    8 - Purple dollars
    9 - Bonus
    10 - Scatter

    Reel 1: 0,8,2,7,5,6,10,2,1,7,5,3,6,9,5,7,4,5,7,3,8,5,7
    Reel 2: 0,4,6,1,8,6,3,5,8,6,3,7,9,8,1,5,6,10,8,2,6,4,8,7
    Reel 3: 0,6,5,8,4,5,10,6,1,8,7,3,6,5,8,6,2,5,9,7,5,1,7,4,6,8,7,2,6,7,5
    Reel 4: 0,8,5,6,3,5,8,2,6,5,4,6,8,1,5,7,4,6,3,5,9,6,1,5,7,10,6,2,5,7,8,5,6,7
    Reel 5: 0,7,8,2,5,6,9,8,1,5,6,4,5,6,2,8,6,5,7,4,5,6,1,7,8,10,5,7,3,6,10,5


    Tally Ho
    0 - Wild (horse)
    1 - Fox
    2 - Foxy lady
    3 - Capitol
    4 - Yellow Car
    5 - Horse emblem (two horses)
    6 - Blue pottery
    7 - Strawberries
    8 - Sandwitches
    9 - Cakes on plate, with knife
    10 - Cheese on wooden piece
    11 - Cheece pie pice with fork (white with purple spot)
    12 - Scatter
    Reel 1: 0,2,11,5,1,2,7,10,9,5,4,6,12,9,8,3,2,1,3,9,10,5,6,9,8,11,9,8,4,5
    Reel 2: 0,11,12,4,2,1,11,9,5,6,7,9,11,4,5,3,9,10,3,9,2,4,3,6,9,4,11,7,8,9
    Reel 3: 0,2,10,8,1,4,7,10,8,6,10,12,3,1,6,11,10,8,5,6,10,7,3,8,4,1,8,10,9,8
    Reel 4: 0,4,9,7,11,6,5,1,2,7,8,11,7,10,9,3,7,4,5,11,7,3,12,6,2,1,5,6,10,11
    Reel 5: 0,3,2,9,8,4,1,2,5,10,6,4,9,1,10,6,8,7,5,3,8,9,3,1,2,5,7,11,6,10,8,7,2,4,10,3,6,11,9,1,5,12,2,4

    What on Earth
    0 - What on Earth
    1 - Alien inside red ring
    2 - Control Panel
    3 - Kryptonite (Green asteroide)
    4 - Watermelon
    5 - Plum
    6 - Orange
    7 - Cherry
    8 - Blue ship
    9 - Green UFO
    10 - Red Rocket
    Reel 1: 0,7,6,3,4,5,7,6,3,4,5,7,3,4,5,7,6,10,3,7,5,6,3,4,5,6,2,4,5,7,6,3,4,5,6,3,4,5,7,6,1,4,5,3,4,7,6,3,4,5,6,3,4,5,7,6,3,4,5,7,6,5
    Reel 2: 0,6,7,5,4,7,6,5,7,6,1,7,4,6,5,3,7,4,6,7,5,10,7,6,5,7,2,4,7
    Reel 3: 0,4,6,9,4,5,7,2,6,4,10,5,7,3,1,7,6,3,7,5,8,7
    Reel 4: 0,5,3,10,6,2,7,8,6,5,1,4,9,1,7,3,2,7,6,3
    Reel 5: 0,7,3,8,6,1,7,5,10,4,1,6,9,2,6,3,10,5,2,3,10,4,1,7,3,1,6

    Reel Strike
    0 - Wild
    1 - Reel Strike symbol
    2 - Yatch in window
    3 - Speed throttle
    4 - Big fish, head right with big yellow "hair"
    5 - Blue/metalish fish flapping
    6 - Blue long fish, head to right
    7 - Red fish flapping
    8 - Flying fish
    9 - Bonus
    10 - Bonus (Only in bonus game)
    11 - Scatter

    Reel 1: 0,8,5,9,7,5,1,6,7,9,8,5,6,9,7,2,5,9,4,11,3,6,9,8,4,9,8,6,2,7
    Reel 2: 0,7,4,6,9,7,8,9,1,11,9,7,8,4,9,8,5,9,6,4,2,8,9,3,4,6,9,7,3
    Reel 3: 0,8,7,9,2,6,3,8,9,4,5,11,4,9,5,4,3,9,5,7,8,9,4,5,6,9,1,7,9,5,6
    Reel 4: 0,8,7,9,8,3,9,1,6,9,2,3,9,11,5,9,4,7,9,6,3,5,9,8,2,6,5,2,9,7,1
    Reel 5: 0,7,8,2,3,9,1,3,6,9,5,4,2,6,8,1,9,7,3,6,9,4,2,8,9,5,1,4,5,6,9,1,8,11,3,9,4,5,9,7,2

    Bonus reelsets:
    Reel 1: 0,8,5,10,7,5,1,6,7,10,8,5,6,10,7,2,5,10,4,11,3,6,10,8,4,10,8,6,2,7
    Reel 2: 0,7,4,6,10,7,8,10,1,11,10,7,8,4,10,8,5,10,6,4,2,8,10,3,4,6,10,7,3
    Reel 3: 0,8,7,10,2,6,3,8,10,4,5,11,4,10,5,4,3,10,5,7,8,10,4,5,6,10,1,7,10,5,6
    Reel 4: 0,8,7,10,8,3,10,1,6,10,2,3,10,11,5,10,4,7,10,6,3,5,10,8,2,6,5,2,10,7,1
    Reel 5: 0,7,8,2,3,10,1,3,6,10,5,4,2,6,8,1,10,7,3,6,10,4,2,8,10,5,1,4,5,6,10,1,8,11,3,10,4,5,10,7,2

    HOHOHO
    0 - Santa
    1 - Reindeer
    2 - Santas sley
    3 - Christmas tree
    4 - Turkey
    5 - Chocolate "ball" with topping
    6 - Punch, coockies and glas of milk
    7 - Pepper man
    8 - Sugarcane
    9 - Gift (feature)

    Reel 1: 0,7,5,4,6,8,3,2,7,6,4,9,8,5,1,7,3,6,8,7,2,8,6,7,8,6
    Reel 2: 0,7,6,2,5,6,8,4,1,7,0,4,7,8,6,1,8,9,5,6,3,8,7,2,8,6,7,3
    Reel 3: 0,8,2,1,7,6,8,4,3,5,4,7,9,8,5,3,7,4,6,8,2,6,5,3,7,1,6,4,3,5,6,8,2,7
    Reel 4: 0,2,7,3,6,1,5,3,8,7,6,5,4,1,3,2,6,1,8,9,7,6,2,4,6,1,4,3,5,4,8,6,4,1,7,2,5,8
    Reel 5: 0,8,7,6,2,1,7,5,9,8,3,4,2,6,5,1,3,4,7,3,5,1,4,9,6,2,8,1,6,5,3,7,2,4,8,3,1,6

    Mermaids Millions
    0 - Wild, Neptun
    1 - Treasure chest
    2 - diamond chest
    3 - Clam with Perl
    4 - Seahorse / Hippocampus
    5 - A
    6 - K
    7 - Q
    8 - J
    9 - 10
    10 - Scatter
    Reel 1: 0,10,6,5,1,4,3,8,0,7,5,1,6,2,4,1,7,8,3,9,8,1,9,7
    Reel 2: 0,1,7,3,6,7,9,5,2,8,1,3,5,9,7,2,9,10,6,5,4,9,1,6,3,7,8,4
    Reel 3: 0,9,3,2,8,7,1,9,5,4,6,5,8,10,9,6,4,8,5,7,1,9,3,6,4,8,2,7,5,4,6,7,3,8
    Reel 4: 0,3,8,4,7,2,6,4,9,8,1,7,6,5,2,4,3,7,2,9,10,8,7,3,5,7,2,5,4,6,5,1,9,5,7,2,8,3,6,9
    Reel 5: 0,9,1,8,7,3,2,8,6,10,9,4,5,3,7,6,2,4,5,8,4,6,2,1,5,7,3,9,2,7,6,4,8,1,3,5,9,4,2,7

    Big Kahuna
    0 - Big Kahuna
    1 - Ogha Bugha man
    2 - Lizard
    3 - Orange
    4 - ..Green fruit
    5 - ..Red fruit
    6 - Water melon
    7 - Ananas
    8 - Red berries
    9 - Vulcano
    10 - Ugha Bugha mask
    11 - Monkey / Scatter
    Reel 1: 0,8,2,9,7,1,9,3,6,2,10,5,1,9,7,2,10,5,4,11,10,3,5,9,2,8,4,9,1,6,10
    Reel 2: 0,7,10,3,6,2,8,10,1,11,9,7,2,10,3,4,5,9,6,4,2,8,10,3,4,1,10,3,7,9
    Reel 3: 0,1,10,7,2,6,3,8,1,4,11,2,9,5,4,3,6,1,7,8,2,10,5,6,9,1,7,8
    Reel 4: 0,2,7,9,8,3,1,10,2,6,3,11,5,9,4,7,9,6,3,5,8,2,10,6,2,5,9,7,1,10
    Reel 5: 0,7,8,2,3,10,1,3,6,9,5,4,2,10,6,8,1,9,7,3,6,9,4,2,8,10,5,1,4,5,6,9,1,8,10,11,3,4,2,5,7,1
     
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  20. Aug 13, 2007
  21. Zoozie

    Zoozie Ueber Meister CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Software Developer
    Location:
    Denmark
    Thank you for providing more reals.

    I will implement HOHOHO in the slotsimulator later today, and I will also check that we actually have the correct reels for Thunderstruck/Tally Ho.

    Next one I will do is Loaded. The slot simulator already has it, but I am not sure the reels are correct.

    Zoozie
     
  22. Aug 13, 2007
  23. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Uless you really want to do it, dont' bother. Im going through all of the feature slots now and will post the reels during the next hour, :)

    Note, I noticed I already posted the reels - however doing a checkup on me is not only fun for you, but great for everybody; :) I'm fascinated on how quick this method was!
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2007
  24. Aug 13, 2007
  25. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    And here comes the rest of the mappable flash slots. Alot of clones here, however I mapped all individually just in case.

    • Ladies Nite
    • Skull Duggery
    • Spring Break
    • Reel Thunder
    • Vinyl Countdown
    • SunQuest
    • Carnaval
    • What a Hoot
    • 5 Reel drive
    • Big Top
    • Monster Mania
    • Gophers Gold
    • Crazy Chameleons
    • Oriental Fortune
    • Spectacular

    Ladies Nite
    0 - Wild
    1 - Ladie with discoball
    2 - Drink
    3 - Perfume
    4 - Purse
    5 - Lipstick
    6 - A
    7 - K
    8 - Q
    9 - J
    10 - 10
    11 - 9
    12 - Scatter

    Reel 1: 0,2,11,5,1,2,7,10,9,5,4,6,12,9,8,3,2,1,3,9,10,5,6,9,8,11,9,8,4,5
    Reel 2: 0,11,12,4,2,1,11,9,5,6,7,9,11,4,5,3,9,10,3,9,2,4,3,6,9,4,11,7,8,9
    Reel 3: 0,2,10,8,1,4,7,10,8,6,10,12,3,1,6,11,10,8,5,6,10,7,3,8,4,1,8,10,9,8
    Reel 4: 0,4,9,7,11,6,5,1,2,7,8,7,11,10,9,3,7,4,5,11,7,3,12,6,2,1,5,6,10,11
    Reel 5: 0,3,2,9,8,4,1,2,5,10,6,4,9,1,10,6,8,7,5,3,8,9,3,1,2,5,7,11,6,10,8,7,2,4,10,3,6,11,9,1,5,12,2,4

    Skull Duggery
    0 - Skull Duggery
    1 - Pirate with red beard
    2 - Map with knife
    3 - Beer-mug
    4 - Sliced orange
    5 - Grapes
    6 - Orange plums?
    7 - Banana
    8 - Coconut
    9 - Blue pirate with chest (feature)
    10 - Scatter
    Reel 1: 0,8,2,9,7,1,8,3,6,2,9,5,1,9,7,2,9,5,4,10,6,3,5,9,2,8,4,9,1,6,7
    Reel 2: 0,7,3,6,2,8,5,1,10,9,7,2,8,3,4,5,9,6,4,2,8,6,3,4,1,3,7,9
    Reel 3: 0,1,7,2,6,3,8,1,4,10,2,9,5,4,3,6,1,7,8,2,5,6,9,1,7,8
    Reel 4: 0,2,7,9,8,3,1,2,6,3,10,5,9,4,7,9,6,3,5,8,2,6,5,2,9,7,1
    Reel 5: 0,7,8,2,3,1,6,3,9,5,4,2,6,8,1,9,7,3,6,9,4,2,8,5,1,4,5,6,9,1,8,10,3,4,2,5,7,1

    Spring Break
    0 - Wild, Spring break
    1 - Cowboy in red car
    2 - Man with beerbottle in pool
    3 - Women sunbathing
    4 - Yellow, men with bench
    5 - Meat on the grill
    6 - Easter roll on dish
    7 - Hamburger
    8 - Pizza slice
    9 - Bowl of chips and dip
    10 - Beer bottles
    11 - Ice cream
    12 - Feature, Party Party
    Reel 1: 0,2,11,5,1,2,7,10,9,5,4,6,12,9,8,3,2,1,3,9,10,5,6,9,8,11,9,8,4,5
    Reel 2: 0,11,12,4,2,1,11,9,5,6,7,9,11,4,5,3,9,10,3,9,2,4,3,6,9,4,11,7,8,9
    Reel 3: 0,2,10,8,1,4,7,10,8,6,10,12,3,1,6,11,10,8,5,6,10,7,3,8,4,1,8,10,9,8
    Reel 4: 0,4,9,7,11,6,5,1,2,7,8,7,11,10,9,3,7,4,5,11,7,3,12,6,2,1,5,6,10,11
    Reel 5: 0,3,2,9,8,4,1,2,5,10,6,4,9,1,10,6,8,7,5,3,8,9,3,1,2,5,7,11,6,10,8,7,2,4,10,3,6,11,9,1,5,12,2,4

    Reel Thunder
    0 - Scatter
    1 - Wild (heart with wings)
    2 - Pig with helmet, green background
    3 - Motorbike wheel
    4 - Biker siluette with orange flaming background
    5 - Cruisin plate
    6 - Speedometer
    7 - Road House beer
    8 - Flaming pepper on cracker
    9 - Hotdog
    10 - Hotdog
    11 - Eggs and Bacon
    12 - Plate with pancakes
    Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
    Reel 2: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
    Reel 3: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
    Reel 4: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
    Reel 5: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

    Vinyl Countdown
    0 - Scatter
    1 - Wild
    2 - Vinyl Countdown
    3 - Man with funky hair and music
    4 - Girl with hearts
    5 - heart with dancing siluette
    6 - Shoes
    7 - Banana split
    8 - Icecream in glass
    9 - Waffle with ice
    10 - Waffle with ice
    11 - Brown pudding with chocolate topping and cherry
    12 - Chocolate flavour drink with straw
    Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
    Reel 2: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
    Reel 3: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
    Reel 4: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
    Reel 5: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

    SunQuest
    0 - Scatter
    1 - Wild
    2 - Gold emblem, S
    3 - diamond
    4 - 7
    5 - Bell
    6 - Bar
    7 - orange
    8 - water melon
    9 - lemon
    10 - lemon
    11 - Strawberries
    12 - ..two redish plums
    Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
    Reel 2: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
    Reel 3: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
    Reel 4: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
    Reel 5: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

    Carnaval
    0 - Scatter
    1 - Wild
    2 - Carnaval symbol
    3 - Woman with carnival thingie on head
    4 - Clown
    5 - Brown banner
    6 - Trumpet
    7 - A
    8 - K
    9 - Q
    10 - Q
    11 - J
    12 - 10
    Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
    Reel 2: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
    Reel 3: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
    Reel 4: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
    Reel 5: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

    What a Hoot
    0 - Scatter
    1 - Wild
    2 - What a Hoot
    3 - Red owl
    4 - Yellow owl
    5 - Blue owl
    6 - Silver owl
    7 - Berries
    8 - Red berry
    9 - Nuts (roundish, spikes)
    10 - Nuts (roundish, spikes)
    11 - Sunflower seeds
    12 - Nuts (longish)
    Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
    Reel 2: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
    Reel 3: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
    Reel 4: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
    Reel 5: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

    5 Reel drive
    0 - Scatter
    1 - Wild
    2 - Burning wheel with start flag
    3 - Red man with truck
    4 - Yellow man with car
    5 - Pink lady with car
    6 - Dices
    7 - Hamburger
    8 - French fries
    9 - bottle and cup
    10 - bottle and cup
    11 - Pie slice
    12 - Cup of coffe
    Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
    Reel 2: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
    Reel 3: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
    Reel 4: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
    Reel 5: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

    Big Top
    0 - Scatter
    1 - Wild
    2 - Big Top
    3 - Leon
    4 - Clown
    5 - Elephant
    6 - Seal
    7 - A
    8 - K
    9 - Q
    10 - Q
    11 - J
    12 - 10
    Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
    Reel 1: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
    Reel 1: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
    Reel 1: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
    Reel 1: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

    Monster Mania
    0 - Scatter
    1 - Wild
    2 - Green Monster
    3 - orange/blue monster with spikes
    4 - Blue monster
    5 - Alien eye
    6 - Snake
    7 - Apple
    8 - Orange
    9 - Water melon
    10 - Water melon
    11 - Grapes
    12 - Banana
    Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
    Reel 2: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
    Reel 3: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
    Reel 4: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
    Reel 5: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

    Gophers Gold
    0 - Gophers Gold
    1 - Wild
    2 - Dynamite exploding
    3 - Bag of gold and "thingie" to hack with
    4 - Mining cart with gold
    5 - Lamp
    6 - A
    7 - K
    8 - Q
    9 - J
    10 - 10
    Reel 1: 1,2,8,3,4,0,10,5,7,9,6
    Reel 2: 4,3,2,8,10,0,9,5,1,7,6
    Reel 3: 7,10,4,1,3,0,8,9,2,5,6
    Reel 4: 9,5,7,10,2,0,4,1,8,3,6
    Reel 5: 2,1,3,9,7,0,10,8,4,5,6

    Crazy Chameleons
    0 - Bird
    1 - Surf boards
    2 - K
    3 - J
    4 - Trousers
    5 - Wild
    6 - Chameleon
    7 - Q
    8 - Sun
    9 - 10
    Reel 1: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
    Reel 2: 2,0,9,1,3,5,8,6,4,7
    Reel 3: 3,8,2,9,7,5,0,4,6,1
    Reel 4: 6,4,7,0,8,5,9,1,3,2
    Reel 5: 1,6,3,4,9,5,2,7,8,0

    Oriental Fortune
    0 - Dragon
    1 - Blue house
    2 - K
    3 - J
    4 - Fish
    5 - Lady
    6 - Oriental Fortune
    7 - Q
    8 - Golden Statue
    9 - 10
    Reel 1: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
    Reel 2: 2,0,9,1,3,5,8,6,4,7
    Reel 3: 3,8,2,9,7,5,0,4,6,1
    Reel 4: 6,4,7,0,8,5,9,1,3,2
    Reel 5: 1,6,3,4,9,5,2,7,8,0

    Spectacular
    0 - Spectacular
    1 - EMPTY
    2 - 7
    3 - EMPTY
    4 - bar x 3
    5 - bar x 3
    6 - EMPTY
    7 - bar x 2
    8 - EMPTY
    9 - bar x 1
    10 - EMPTY
    11 - Admit one ticket
    12 - EMPTY
    13 - SPIN
    Reel 1: 0,1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,5,14
    Reel 2: 0,1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,5,14
    Reel 3: 0,1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14
     
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  26. Aug 13, 2007
  27. Kaynos72

    Kaynos72 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    My job sucks
    Location:
    Quebec, Canada
    Can someone map Golden-Goose Totem Treasure please ? I really like this slot.
     
  28. Aug 13, 2007
  29. gerilege

    gerilege Meister Member PABnorogue PABrogue

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    Hungary
    Some consequences

    It's also interesting that in case of slots like that, it is possible to calculate the payout exactly, not just via simulations, because the number of possible combinations are not so high (248832 in case of 5 reel drive).

    I made some quick calculations, and the results really amazed me if I'm correct and the above reels are correct:
    Whatever the return percentage of this slot is, 78.125%point comes from scatter wins. Am I correct in the below calculations?
    P(Exactly 3 scatters)=BINOMDIST(3;5;1/4;FALSE)=0.087890625
    P(Exactly 4 scatters)=BINOMDIST(4;5;1/4;FALSE)=0.014648438
    P(Exactly 5 scatters)=BINOMDIST(5;5;1/4;FALSE)=0.000976563

    Win (3 scatters) = 0.087890625 * 5 = 0.439453125
    Win (4 scatters) = 0.014648438 * 20 = 0.29296875
    Win (5 scatters) = 0.000976563 * 50 = 0.048828125
    Sum = 0.78125

    So if we assume that the overall payback is 95%, than 82.2% of the total payback would come from scatter wins...
     
  30. Aug 13, 2007
  31. Zoozie

    Zoozie Ueber Meister CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Software Developer
    Location:
    Denmark
    I worked a few hours on the new slot reels tonight.

    And I have implemented HOHOHO. The results are:

    Seconds running:133.3
    Number of iterations:35741888
    Total cost:35741888
    Total added wins:22231780
    Number of feature starts:380754
    Base payback(no free spins):0.622009111550011
    Probability for getting a feature each spin:0.010652878773499599~1/94
    Average number of spins each feature with retriggers (calculated):25.414819911310232
    Average number of win each feature(in bet size):31.616499106475217
    Total payout (excact!)= 0.95881584377375~ 95.88%


    Quite impressive the payout actually is in the 95-96% range, which makes me believe we got it :)

    I have a small problem with tomb raider. The slot simulator multiplies all wins
    during the free spins and ALSO those from the bonus picking game. It will take some time before I can fix this unfortunately. I will work on more slots tomorrow, those that I know will work on the slot analyzer and then I will upload the new slot analyzer applet.

    Zoozie
     
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  32. Aug 13, 2007
  33. SlotsWizard

    SlotsWizard Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    I currently work for the Wizard of Odds
    Location:
    North of Antarctica
    In the case of the 5-reel 5-liners such as Winning Wizards, I am 99% certain that the reels are weighted like 3-reel slots are.

    Some time in the past I used the imperfect method of analyzing the reels, and came to the conclusion that every symbol appears only once on each reel.

    Therefore it would make sense that the reel stops are weighted.

    From 100 spins (I know, small sample, hardly enough, blah blah blah) I obtained the following results (the symbol in each list refers to the symbol appearing on the top line):

    View attachment 7528

    The reason I decided to log this (about 6 months ago) was because when I was playing I kept noticing the King appearing on the bottom of the first reel very frequently (that's the stop where the Ten appears on the top of the first reel which happened on 16% of the spins in the above session).

    If the reels weren't weighted, each symbol and lineup would have an equal chance of showing up because each symbol appears only once on each reel. Obviously it wouldn't make sense that five 10s has the same probability as five Wizards, so weighting is likely occurring. Plus this is one of the oldest MG video slots so it wouldn't surprise me if it was weighted like the 3-reelers since most of the slots back then were 3-reelers.
     
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  34. Aug 13, 2007
  35. SlotsWizard

    SlotsWizard Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    I currently work for the Wizard of Odds
    Location:
    North of Antarctica
    What's symbol 14?
     
  36. Aug 13, 2007
  37. Zoozie

    Zoozie Ueber Meister CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Software Developer
    Location:
    Denmark
    We can probably see that when I have entered it into the analyzer. It the payout% is unrealistic, I trust you.

    Btw. it seems all 5-reel slots at Boss software also are not uniformly random.
    Even the 3-reel slots seems not even be be standard weigthed. Here you get
    2 jackpot symbols way to often and amoung all 3 reels. So the payout is
    not determined from the reels, but by other means. And then the reels just
    show a win at the given amount. I am 95% certain this is the way it is, which is a shame since it is deceptive and ruins the whole idea of slots with reels.
     
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  38. Aug 13, 2007
  39. SlotsWizard

    SlotsWizard Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    I currently work for the Wizard of Odds
    Location:
    North of Antarctica
    Don't forget that this game pays left-to-right and right-to-left... I think you can just double the payout for all wins except five of a kind? It might be more complicated than that.

    Winning Wizards, Oriental Fortune and "classic" Crazy Chameleons are all the same game.
     

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