Content thief - red-bet.com

winbig

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This is one thread that won't be locked....the evidence is too blatant and damning. :p

Watch this thread for updates....once the situation is under control....

:)

Yes, it is on the agenda to name and shame, so I won't leave you hanging, too much!
 

RobWin

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This is one thread that won't be locked....the evidence is too blatant and damning. :p

Watch this thread for updates....once the situation is under control....

:)

Yes, it is on the agenda to name and shame, so I won't leave you hanging, too much!

Umm, I wouldn't bet the farm on that one just quite yet...:p
 

RobWin

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It has no chance....the proof is too damning, but I can say with confidence that it is not a member of this forum that is the culprit. :)

Yea, I never thought that other one would have been one to get closed down either, but....it will be interesting to see what you have found now my friend..:cool:
 

Casinomeister

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It has no chance....the proof is too damning, and I can say with confidence that it is not a member of this forum that is the culprit. :)
Whew - and I thought I was getting busted out :p
 

maxd

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... I'll post all the juicy details once the situation is sorted out :p

Fine, be that way. ;)

Here content, here content content content. Where are you hiding? Did the content thief nab you? Pooor liddo content ... and so forth.
 

jetset

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:lolup:

Nothing like a little suspense to increase anticipation....but this better be good :p
 

BingoT

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Winbig just come out with it.
Winbig will pop
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the facts soon.
So sit back and have some popcorn
 
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winbig

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LOL...Perhaps?? I wanted the title change, but you may want to reconsider the "perhaps" after reading all of this :D

Thieves domain: www.red-bet.com
Stolen Content from: www.gamesandcasino.com

Domain registrant info (enom):

URL Not Found / Outdated

WHOIS Information

Visit AboutUs.org for more information about red-bet.com
AboutUs: red-bet.com

Registrant:
Bo Li
Liuzhoulu Guanghuadayuan 5dong 3-7-2

Guanghan Sichuan 618300 CN

============================================================


Get Noticed on the Internet! Increase visibility for this domain name by listing it at www.whoisbusinesslistings.com


============================================================

Administrative:
Bo Li
Liuzhoulu Guanghuadayuan 5dong 3-7-2

Guanghan Sichuan, 618300 CN
Phone: +86.8385221670
Fax:

Technical:
Bo Li
Liuzhoulu Guanghuadayuan 5dong 3-7-2

Guanghan Sichuan, 618300 CN
Phone: +86.8385221670
Fax:

nameserver:
DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM
DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM

updated-date: 2008-10-17 17:34:23.000

created-date: 2006-11-15 19:48:29.000

registration-expiration-date: 2009-11-15 19:48:29.000

status:
registrar-lock

domain: red-bet.com

Here's 6 screenshots that I have compiled with side by side Firefox views comparing our page to the stolen one. I could have taken dozens more, because of the fact that all of the casino reviews on that site are stolen word for word.

Proof is in the pudding, so here's plenty of it :)

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They have also stolen the poker glossary from poker.com, word for word, as well.

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winbig

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And to top it off, GNC took a SEVERE penalty hit in the SERPS on July 13th of 2007, and I think it's more than coincidence that www.red-bet.com lay dormant from 2004, but popped up with content...stolen....on May 8th, 2007.

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You be the judge....
 

winbig

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For the record:

Name: www.red-bet.com
Address: 72.167.131.52

The site is hosted at GoDaddy, and the process is already underway to (hopefully) get their site shut down and get their domain yanked from enom...

If you remember, enom played ball with Kentucky, so more than likely they will this time too. :thumbsup:
 

dominique

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It looks like half that site was stolen from me, and the other half from poker.com

Anyone know who owns poker.com?

They should be made aware of this.
 

Casinomeister

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Could someone please list the affiliate programs that deal with his site here?

I'll contact the aff managers in the morning. :D
 

dominique

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Here are some:

888: xxxhttp://www.888.com/?sr=386104&flag=0000

PokerRoomSchool: xxxhttp://www.pokerroomschool.com/?m=redbet&lang=en

CanBet: xxxhttp://record.commissionking.com/_ed0c817ae8365b222031664759ed283a/1/

VictorChandler (VC) Casino: xxxhttp://banners.victor.com/processing/clickthrgh.asp?btag=a_2841b_203
 
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winbig

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Here are some:

888: xxxhttp://www.888.com/?sr=386104&flag=0000

PokerRoomSchool: xxxhttp://www.pokerroomschool.com/?m=redbet&lang=en

CanBet: xxxhttp://record.commissionking.com/_ed0c817ae8365b222031664759ed283a/1/

VictorChandler (VC) Casino: xxxhttp://banners.victor.com/processing/clickthrgh.asp?btag=a_2841b_203

Actually, that's all of them.....

I have no idea why, (maybe SEO reasons?) but every casino text link from that site does NOT have an affiliate tag. Only the banners listed on that site have an affiliate link.......weird.
 
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lots0

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This an attack.

This attack was not designed to make money from affiliate programs (at least on the site that stole the content) it was designed to drop Dom's domain out of the serp (Search Engine Results Pages).

The sites that are intended to make the money will have no traceable connection to the site that stole all the content.

I have been dealing with attacks like this for the last several years.

Ya I know some of you think I am a paranoid nut case... But it is a fact. The attacks do happen and they do work.

Dom your best and fastest bet is to contact google threw the webmaster tools (if your site has been verified) and explain what has happened and ask them to fix it.

also everyone needs to report the site to google for spam.
 

lots0

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Dom I forgot to mention to tell google these guys are in violation of the DMCA.

Google seems to work faster when you bring up the DMCA.
 

dominique

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Well, in April 2007 I sat on a panel that was whitehat versus blackhat and a lot of blackhatters did not like what I had to say.

Shortly after that this RedBet site, after being dormant for years, puts up G&C content. A couple of months after that, G&C gets a google penalty that drops everything that used to be page one down to page 5. All the previous #1 pages (hundreds) now go to the top of page 5, and when it comes to turning the corner to page 4, they drop down to seven, over and over and over for two years.

If it weren't for people bookmarking G&C and word of mouth, our site would be all but dead today. Google traffic is negligible.

I don't know if this redbet is the cause, or the sole cause, but it sure is a heck of a coincidence.

BTW the owner of that site has other sites too, and Casino Rewards had him as aff and suspeded his account and notified him. I have no idea who else he has accounts with.
 

dominique

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Dom your best and fastest bet is to contact google threw the webmaster tools (if your site has been verified) and explain what has happened and ask them to fix it.

also everyone needs to report the site to google for spam.

Did that yesterday...
 

winbig

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Dom I forgot to mention to tell google these guys are in violation of the DMCA.

Google seems to work faster when you bring up the DMCA.

Yes, and I wrote a complaint to their hosting company (GoDaddy), and they are investigating the DMCA violations as we speak. ENOM is not being at all cooperative, so that's being worked on right now...

And Bryan, thanks for the honor of being the first person to get a site listed in the evil webmasters section of your site. :notworthy

Hopefully we can figure out who exactly is behind this so we can name and shame further. :D
 
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