confused about european BJ chart

[P@u1]

<div class="bbWrapper">Hi,<br /> <br /> atm I&#039;m a bit confused: I was searching for a chart for european blackjack (chartwell software) and found different charts. Now the problem is which one is the right? One chart is offered at the casino itself! Does this mean this chart is the right one, or may there be mistakes in this one?<br /> The following rules apply (maybe some1 can give me the best chart for it <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/grin.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" />):<br /> <br /> 1.<br /> 8 decks of cards, re-shuffled after each round.<br /> 2.<br /> Dealer must draw to 16<br /> 3.<br /> Dealer stands on soft 17<br /> 4.<br /> Blackjack pays 3:2<br /> 5.<br /> Insurance pays 2:1<br /> 6.<br /> Even Money pays 1:1<br /> 7.<br /> Double Down on 9, 10, 11<br /> 8.<br /> Double Down on Splits<br /> 9.<br /> No splitting 4s, 5s, 10-valued cards<br /> 10.<br /> No re-splits<br /> 11.<br /> Split Aces, 1 extra card - If you split two Aces, only one more card will be dealt to each hand.<br /> 12.<br /> Early Surrender half of bet on non-dealer ace<br /> 13.<br /> No Peek - Player loses total bet on Dealer BJ, including splits and double downs.<br /> <br /> and another thing: Taking even money was mentioned in NO grid, is it always bad like insurance?<br /> I hope this is the right section...</div>

 

[bernynhel]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> confused about european BJ chart </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> LOL. I thought you were tralking about something <i>entirely</i> diffrent than blackjack. Nevermind.</div>

 

[marioking24]

<div class="bbWrapper">hahaha great... I was thinking that too! <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/smile.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /><br /> <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/smile.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /><br /> <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/wink.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /><br /> made my day!</div>

 

[DiamondGeezer]

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[KasinoKing]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="P@u1" data-source="post: 335724" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=335724" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-335724">P@u1 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi,<br /> <br /> atm I&#039;m a bit confused: I was searching for a chart for european blackjack (chartwell software) and found different charts. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Widely considered to be THE site for best strategies:- <a href="http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack</a><br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="P@u1" data-source="post: 335724" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=335724" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-335724">P@u1 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> and another thing: Taking even money was mentioned in NO grid, is it always bad like insurance?<br /> I hope this is the right section... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I&#039;ve never seen the &quot;Even Money&quot; option in an online casino - only in my &quot;local&quot; casino in Brighton.<br /> I confess I don&#039;t know the difference in odds between this &amp; insurance, but I usually <b>did</b> take the even money when offered, back in the good old days before I was permanently glued to a PC... <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/tongue.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" data-shortname=":p" /><br /> <br /> The recommendation is to <u>never</u> take insurance as it is -EV long-term.<br /> But I&#039;m not a hard-core Blackjack player, so I will take it personally if I have a large bet on the table &amp; I&#039;m holding 20 or 21.<br /> <br /> KK</div>

 

[Scooter7]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="KasinoKing" data-source="post: 335826" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=335826" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-335826">KasinoKing said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;ve never seen the &quot;Even Money&quot; option in an online casino - only in my &quot;local&quot; casino in Brighton.<br /> I confess I don&#039;t know the difference in odds between this &amp; insurance <br /> <br /> KK </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Even Money is a bit of a misnomer. It is simply the combination of your hand (a Blackjack) and the insurance bet. There are two possibilities when you insure a BJ:<br /> <br /> <b>1. </b> Dealer has BJ (push). In this case, you push your hand bet and win 2:1 on 1/2 your bet (the insurance bet). <br /> <b>2. </b>Dealer does NOT have BJ (win). In this case, you win 3:2 on your hand bet and lose 1/2 your hand bet that was placed as insurance.<br /> <br /> The net result of either case is that you will win an amount equal to your original hand bet.<br /> <br /> Example:<br /> <br /> $10 bet-player BJ, dealer has an Ace<br /> $5 insurance bet<br /> <br /> <b>Dealer has BJ</b><br /> <br /> Push the $10 bet and win $10 (2:1) on the $5 insurance bet<br /> <br /> <b>Dealer doesn&#039;t have BJ</b><br /> <br /> Win $15 on the $10 bet and lose $5 on the insurance bet<br /> <br /> Both ways, your net win is $10<br /> <br /> <br /> Even Money is offered on a Blackjack (usually in B&amp;M casinos) for a few reasons.<br /> <br /> <b>1. </b> Saves time<br /> <b>2. </b>Slightly better game security<br /> <b>3. </b>Makes it more convenient for a player to make the wrong mathematical play<br /> <br /> <b>1. </b>Instead of placing the insurance bet and then collecting or paying it, the dealer and player don&#039;t have extra steps to go through<br /> <b>2. </b>If the dealer pays the bet and removes the cards right away, the player can never slip an extra chip onto their bet in an attempt to cheat<br /> <b>3. </b>I&#039;ve seen players refuse to &#039;buy&#039; insurance and then turn around and ask for &#039;even money&#039;. Please don&#039;t make me prove that the average casino player has a tendency to be a little bit dense <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/grin.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" />, I promise it is true.</div>