Suggestion Comments on Warnings

Should we add something so that readers can comment on Casinomeister Warnings?

  • Nope, don't need it.

    Votes: 14 30.4%
  • Yes, let me comment in the Warning thread itself (could get messy!)

    Votes: 5 10.9%
  • Yes, give me a link to a thread where I can comment.

    Votes: 21 45.7%
  • Not sure, might be nice but I typically wouldn't bother.

    Votes: 6 13.0%

  • Total voters
    46

maxd

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As it happens I'm passing this along on behalf of a couple people who've emailed-PM'd me:

So the suggestion is that forum members should be able to comment on the Warnings. Either directly or via a link to a thread for comments on that Warning.

I'll add a poll here so we can gather your preferences on this.
 

MiltonW

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As it happens I'm passing this along on behalf of a couple people who've emailed-PM'd me:

So the suggestion is that forum members should be able to comment on the Warnings. Either directly or via a link to a thread for comments on that Warning.

I'll add a poll here so we can gather your preferences on this.

I think not via the warning. That should be yours (and Brian) alone. But create a thread automagically. Can't hurt.

PS. I'm one of these people, because I feel Fenix should be Rogued.
 

Jono777

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IM (humble :p) O - Nope

Casinomeister, above all else know what they are on about and would not administer a warning in the public forum if it was not warranted.

Allowing members to 'post reply' would, as suggested open a can of worms, it could give novices, members associated with said casino chance to 'argue' back and even possibly spread total BS.

The warnings are clear as glass and spell out truthful instances, whether members decide to heed them or not is up to them, CM has then played its (important) part by originally offering the warning!
 

MiltonW

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Allowing members to 'post reply' would, as suggested open a can of worms, it could give novices, members associated with said casino chance to 'argue' back and even possibly spread total BS.

The warnings are clear as glass and spell out truthful instances, whether members decide to heed them or not is up to them, CM has then played its (important) part by originally offering the warning!

Hmm, but I wanted to add to the warning, and I couldn't... I felt the casino (Fenix) should be rogued. Of course I can always start my own thread, but why not just do it automagically...
 

Jono777

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Hmm, but I wanted to add to the warning, and I couldn't... I felt the casino (Fenix) should be rogued. Of course I can always start my own thread, but why not just do it automagically...

Fair point!

However do we need more than one warning or reassurance from others that the warning is factual ? ?

Do we need examples of where players have come unstuck more than the OP ?

In my opinion No, Casinomeister tells me to avoid a place for a plausible reason with just one example, then I avoid it.
 

MiltonW

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Fair point!

However do we need more than one warning or reassurance from others that the warning is factual ? ?

Do we need examples of where players have come unstuck more than the OP ?

In my opinion No, Casinomeister tells me to avoid a place for a plausible reason with just one example, then I avoid it.


Yeah, but I felt Warning wasn't enough. I believe it was Spintee who proved that Casino-for-Me and Fenix actually have the same owner, so obviously, the not paying because the previous owner didn't transfer the funds...
Anyway, Max only sticks to the facts, I believe we should be able to expand on that. Since we can't reply on the warning, why not give us a chance on the public forum (without having to do it ourselves).

And also, I tried to find Fenix in the reservation/rogued section. Nope. So maybe we need a Warning section?
 

osulle

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I voted for the create a separate thread because as others have stated the casino we are being warned about may be connected to another casino. Also it is possible that one of the affiliates of the rogue casino can have contact information for the casino that might help resolve any problems. Probably pointless but you never know.
 

MiltonW

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Guess we'll agree to disagree on this one then lol!

I can see and understand your point however.

How would anyone know not to play Fenix? These warnings aren't registered. So either rogue the casino, create a Warning section, or create a thread, so it's more likely to show up on google... Don't understand why people would disagree.
 

Jono777

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How would anyone know not to play Fenix? These warnings aren't registered. So either rogue the casino, create a Warning section, or create a thread, so it's more likely to show up on google... Don't understand why people would disagree.

My comments and input were towards max's post at the top, Fenix had not been mentioned at the time of my first post.

However I was aware as there was a rather lengthy thread about it a few weeks back!
 

MiltonW

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My comments and input were towards max's post at the top, Fenix had not been mentioned at the time of my first post.

However I was aware as there was a rather lengthy thread about it a few weeks back!

Obviously. But the 'Fenix' example clarifies the need for public response. And I believe it should be automatic. Shouldn't be only up to Max and Brian.
 

maxd

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... Since we can't reply on the warning ...

?? Please explain, I think I'm missing what you mean here.

Should add that the "auto-magical" thing probably isn't trivial. Don't want to create a separate thread for each person that clicks through, etc. Programming issues are going to come into play here I would guess.
 

MiltonW

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?? Please explain, I think I'm missing what you mean here.
Can't reply on Warning forum. So I would have to make my own thread. No biggy, but why not help us out to get some feedback.

Should add that the "auto-magical" thing probably isn't trivial. Don't want to create a separate thread for each person that clicks through, etc. Programming issues are going to come into play here I would guess.

Should be trivial. You post a warning, et voila, thread created. But then, I'm an old school programmer, so biased...
 

maxd

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I hear you, I'm an old coder myself, but "old style programming" and vBulletin don't have much in common. If there's a facility already in place or a good plug-in available then sure, no problem. But if you have to start thinking about rolling your own then you're poking sticks into a house of cards: shit breaks faster than you can say "wankers!"
 

dunover

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I voted 'not needed'. Obviously on some occasions warnings go up directly as a result of CM members' complaints in public (i.e. the recent G*l* one) and F*n*x which we have seen in detail anyway.

Other funny stuff we often aren't party to; it may come as a result of a discreet PAB or be an affiliate matter or simply reliable info picked up by Max, Bryan, Simmo or Webczas and then posted in a warning thread. In that case the integrity and information in the closed thread is sufficient for us anyway IMO. They always take the trouble to explain WHY in detail anyway.

If Bryan or Max post a warning 'Shagnasty Slots are a bunch of Wankers because.....' I don't really see the need for us to all add comments which basically add up to: 'yeah, you're right Max, they really ARE wankers!'
 

KasinoKing

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I definitely would like members to have to opportunity to comment. It could be some of us have some information which Bryan or Max might not have, which could effect the status of the warning... in EITHER direction!

I do agree though that a separate thread would be better, allowing only Max or Bryan themselves to make any necessary additional comments to the main Warning Thread based on what members post, if they see fit.

So I voted for option 3.

KK
 

maxd

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... comments which basically add up to: 'yeah, you're right Max, they really ARE wankers!'

Or, often likely, "no!!!!!!! you suck!!!!!!!! Casino Butt-Scratch is ThE bEsT cAsInO!!!!!! I -heart-symbol- it!!!!!!". Just sayin'. ;)
 

Casinomeister

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LOL.....has the Casino4life 'rep' been back by any chance???:D:D:D:D:D

Yes he has. He was wondering where I got my information from. :rolleyes:

As for the Warning threads, I've kept it closed for posting so that is doesn't get cluttered with high fives and rebuttals. I think a good compromise is to open a "comments" thread when a warning appears. This can be done by the person making the warning - or even by a concerned member. I try to post the warnings in the rogue section - time permitting. And of course if it's well deserved, an actual listing in the rogue pit. As you can tell, I've been quite busy the past few weeks. :D
 

paul7388

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I also voted no need .

If theirs an official warning about a casino then all the information is available as to why the decision was made.

If anyone had anything they needed to add or thought it was wrong choice they could always PM Max or Bryan. Having members commenting in my opinion detracts from the original warning and can lead to the sort of thread that's really just a bitchfest like some threads have went.

Think its better just to have the warning, reason why and leave it at that.
 
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