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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Freeman, Jun 4, 2014.

    Jun 4, 2014
  1. Freeman

    Freeman Experienced Member

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    Think it's about time to throw this one out there: is it that Casinomeister are a forum bullying Netent and favorizing Microgaming? Don't get me wrong, I like their software to, but feels sometimes Netent are treated somewhat unfair. Every time they release a new slot, we members try them out, returning only to report how crappy they are. Why is that? Often we're talking about high varience slot's, and it's just not realistic everyone should have a lycky strike at them simultaniously. The other day I played Thunderstruck, and it was just awful. I know it's a classic, and of course my opinion was based on how well I did that particilar day, but I think you know where I'm coming from. Isn't it time to review the new slots more aware about the variance, and with the understanding that everyone can't win at the same time? In my opinion a slot is not bad just because I have a bad day, and Netent's are in fact high tech quality, no one can argue with that. Any thoughts on that, or do I owe you an appology :)
     
  2. Jun 4, 2014
  3. incrediblestuff

    incrediblestuff SearchingForTheHolyGrail! CAG webmeister

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    I hear you, and have uttered similar thoughts myself recently, for instance here:
    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62343&p=624639#post624639

    But i can assure you MG gets the same type of bashing on a regular basis :rolleyes:

    It's all part of the game, gambling equals emotion and all seasoned gamblers know all too well that most of the time you will lose your shirt off, but when most people see promo video's and screenshots of huge hits on new slots they tend to get that feeling that they to can hit that, yet there is no guarantee that they ever will, when they then try those slots and are slaughtered a few times (on high variance games in particular) they will feel :xxx...on occasion at least.

    Mostly people rant a bit or start a thread about other players experiences and will see similar cases, which then settles the minds and all can go back to normal.

    I have read this forum long enough to say with confidence that the bashing of softwares is a returning phenomenon, and mostly it's temporarily, the best tips that pop up in such threads are: If you don't like it, stop playing it, and try a different software if you feel that the software is "rigged", since we (everybody that isn't on a huge losing streak:p) think it isn't.

    And once in awhile, just like you now, i feel the bashing is getting overboard and it's indeed good to speak up.:thumbsup:
     
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  4. Jun 4, 2014
  5. gagamel

    gagamel Professional smurf hunter MM

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    Incrediblestuff said all.
    Great comment, thank you:thumbsup:
     
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  6. Jun 4, 2014
  7. Captain Chaos

    Captain Chaos Senior Member webby

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    Yeah, ok. I'm guilty of this.

    It's not that I hate NetEnt. I think they are some of the best designed slots on the net. But we all like a good moan and, truth be told we are probably just harking back to older times. It seems that people prefer the old NetEnt games and not the new ones.

    I think it probably appears we love MG more because, let's face it, we all like that big hit. Apart from entertainment, winning big is every gamblers desire. MG appears to be able to throw these big wins out more than NetEnt slots so it is probably only natural that we have a whine about how tight NetEnt are, how poor they pay, etc, etc. But we all moan about MG too.
     
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  8. Jun 4, 2014
  9. Freeman

    Freeman Experienced Member

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    I hear you. Just think the NetEnt bashing has become a bit ridiculous, to long and to much, and felt it needed some straightening up :)
     
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  10. Jun 4, 2014
  11. gagamel

    gagamel Professional smurf hunter MM

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    Well, I know what you mean.
    But it`s only a minority bashing these slots. I play them a lot and have a total different experience than the NetEnt haters. But these guys also have better experiences with MG.
    Since two weeks I exclusively play Rival, but god knows for how long. Winning slots are good slots, if you lose every slot is a bitch :D
     
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  12. Jun 4, 2014
  13. Lincolnuk

    Lincolnuk Senior Member MM

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    Intresting topic. About 4 weeks ago i had a glimpsy at some info at the site the wife works at.

    Netent figures on the site was fair throu out but we we looked of some recent player stats we see why they maybe got bashed so much.
    Apart from real good wins in which mg seemed to have by a mile most of the netent games was creating less winners but those that did win was getting better wins than you would expect of all different platforms.

    Its just the netent way but they wasnt short changing by a mile just other slots seemed more divided but the wins was not as good
     
  14. Jun 4, 2014
  15. mathsboy1975

    mathsboy1975 Senior Member webmeister

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    To be fair I think that a lot of the newer slots have been getting a bashing whether MG or NetEnt. I did a fair bit of Aliens bashing as I felt that the game was bad but could have been so good. But I also hated The Dark Knight Rises when it came out and that took a pretty universal slating as I recall. I find that it is usually pretty easy to filter out the constructive criticisms from "bad streak ranting". Sometimes games are just bad and people will tell it how it is. Never forget the old saying "one mans sh*t is another mans treasure" - I think the actual saying is somewhat more polite but the principle remains the same.
     
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  16. Jun 4, 2014
  17. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG MM

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    A few here are really good at bashing NetEnt. They have even made it an art :rolleyes:

    As soon as a new game is on the way it starts...

    I agree with you Freeman, but I also know that some people need to complain. It's probably a way of feeling better.
    I have learned to ignore it and if it makes them feel good, then they maybe don't complain about me so much :p
     
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  18. Jun 4, 2014
  19. bigjohn

    bigjohn Meister Member MM PABnoaccred

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    The only thing worse than being criticized is not being criticized.

    It's free publicity for Netent.

    Someone reads how bad a new game is and they have to go try it out for themselves then they come back and say, "Yea, that was terrible! I'll try it again next week but I'll deposit more!" People criticize and bash things they are passionate about.

    If you are a software provider and you are not being discussed here you have a problem. I think Top Game is some of the worst software I have ever seen but you don't see many people talking about it.

    Also, I think the part of the statement I bolded above is kinda the wrong impression, the forum pretty much swings to it's own tune with minimal directional input from the administration where the main site itself represents the Casinomeister mantra.
     
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  20. Jun 4, 2014
  21. Freeman

    Freeman Experienced Member

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    Yea, I'm sure NetEnt are thrilled to be the laughing stock when there are equally (or worse) crappy Microgaming slots:D
     
  22. Jun 4, 2014
  23. lotusch

    lotusch Noob Webby webby PABaccred mm2

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    Well I just utterly hate Netent,I am honest about that.
    And I seldom play their blood sucking slots,the slots that suck you dry drip by drip. :D
    Had a few mediocre hits on them but nothing major.
    And that is why I like MGS and WMS for example,they can WOW you with that superb hit,something that has never ever happened to me on Netent slots.
    So I think you should see it as a true reflection what many people just think about Netent,cannot be a coincidence so many people dislike their slots.

    But hey,if you feel they are ok,no one is stopping you from saying so and to play them. ;):thumbsup:
     
  24. Jun 5, 2014
  25. Freeman

    Freeman Experienced Member

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    I challange you to put record on your deposits, and withdrawals, over a year or two thru the providers. You might be surprised...
    They all suck hahaha :D
     
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  26. Jun 7, 2014
  27. catapultaudio

    catapultaudio Senior Member

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    I can't deny that NetEnt have come in for a fair bit of abuse recently but it isn't always completely unbalanced -most people do respect the graphics, innovation and technical proficiency shown by this team but are not fans of the paytables or spread of wins - I think its completely justified to say, fifty x bet for five wilds really sucks, or that 600x bet being the highest thing on the paytable sucks, etcetc.... its just stating the facts really.

    But yes I completely agree with your point that credit should be given where its due and that criticism should be based as much as possible on the specifics of the game itself and not a single losing session :)
     
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  28. Jun 7, 2014
  29. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    I personally feel that Netent slots are awesome. I've had a lot of good things to say about them over the years (you'd have to dig up a few recent newsletters from Barcelona). But the developers do a bang up job (IMO). I would almost tend to say there is more MGS bashing than anything else :p
     
  30. Jun 7, 2014
  31. rshkrn

    rshkrn Senior Member

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    haters always gonna hate ;)

    personally don't think there's bias towards any one provider......there's always bound to be favoritism based on how much someone has won.......all I know is loyalties can change in just 1 spin :cool::cool:
     
  32. Jun 7, 2014
  33. Azzurri

    Azzurri Banned User

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    I find both Netent and MG to be as painfully bad as each other when that dry spell hits. The main difference I've noticed is that it seems Netent is much harder to hit a big win on than MG. Of course this could just be random coincidence, but I have found Netent to be consistent in it's behavior of win/lose ratio, so I seemingly only ever break even all the time, and rarely can get any wins over and above my original starting balance.

    MG can suck you dry just as quick, but when I've won, I've always seem to win big on MG. Last week at Leo Vegas I was getting regular $200 - $300 wins from single spins on Ladies Night, Thunderstruck, and Mermaids Millions on 90c to $1.80 bets. Even got three free spin features in a row on Ladies Night that paid $300 - $400 each at $1.80 bet! This was in stark contrast to the last few months where free spin features were returning dismal amounts of $1.40 - $10.00. I got 4 wilds on Mermaids at $3.60 bet, and Thunderstruck was spitting out high paying features one after another. When MG is hot, it's hot, and I don't think I've ever played a Netent slot that can compare with those consistant returns during a hot session.

    Needless to say this week all the slots turned cold, and I loss my $1,500 budget, as the games returned to the small feature wins. But that's the beast, lol.

    I've actually just recently discovered Play N Go slots much more, and I like them a lot. They seem to be a true hybrid mix of MG and Netent, in that the payouts can be huge, but at the very least when cold, they continue to just keep you at the low to medium variance level with consistent small wins for a prolonged play time.

    Hit some nice $500 - $700 single bet wins at $3.00 on Lady of Fortune, which is the highest single spin wins I have ever had on a slot, so will continue to explore their slots for something different.
     
  34. Jun 7, 2014
  35. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

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    I tell you what... all the folks that are privileged to play the great variety of softwares available (MG, NetEnt, WMS, etc.) could switch to playing only RTG for a few weeks... months... years.... Then tell us what you think. :)
     
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  36. Jun 7, 2014
  37. Nate

    Nate Ueber Meister CAG webmeister

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    I still don't get why people are taking this personally :what: .. Why are people taking personal exception to somebody else's opinion. Why is the forum becoming so petty? Don't we have better things to discuss apart from disagreements with other peoples opinions?

    When somebody doesn't like something, there is no need to say they are bashing or over reacting. Thats their personal opinion. It soon turns to the person is a sore loser, problem gambler or whines for everything. I don't see MG or NetEnt complaining about it or banning people?

    Another line that is being touted - 'If you don't like the slots why play them?' - If you don't like a comment like that - then don't read it or don't comment. Seriously people?? Do you really have to start a thread about people who play slots then complain?

    You would swear that some software providers really need assistance in their defence or they were poor little kids being bullied. I have always based my opinion on a slot on stats and mostly personal experience. Do NetEnt have great games - Yes. Do they have slots that pay big - Yes. Do some of them have crappy paytables - Yes.

    Lets try and keep the peace guys - these silly member bashing threads with personal opinions on other peoples personal opinions are just ludicrous. If you want to base anything on anything - Haul out your stats and disprove a 'basher' - just don't make it personal.

    Nate
     
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