Club Gold Oddity

[stokes]

I will try to summarize in a few words what Temperence wanted to show with the screenshots.

When you open a real progressive slot (not Dollar Ball enhanced) in a FUN mode you would not be able to play as you would get a pop-up saying it can not be played in FUN mode.

But if you open a DB enhanced slot you are able to play the slot in FUN mode. ONLY if you want to enable DB would you get the pop-up saying it can not be played in FUN mode.

So the player can assume it is OK to play the DB enhanced slot as it is not progressive if the DB is not enabled.

@Temperence

Have you tried PT website?

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Though the link is direct somehow it does not work in IE or Chrome, so on the website choose the Contact us (upper right corner) and then Player inquire (upper left corner).

I my case the 60 days is well over (which is in their term), but in your case it might be still OK.

 

[Temperance Fox]

Thanks Stokes, I've tried many times , also in other PLT places.No answer. I must say I've been working enough in this period and discovered many interesting things.I don't like this way to turn on people.
I'm sure 100% we are right.

 

[Temperance Fox]

Has this question been answered or does anyone know the answer to the op's question?

It's a mystery, someone told me that this is "confidential".

 

[maxd]

It's a mystery, someone told me that this is "confidential".

Just noticed this. What is "confidential"? Who said so? When did they say this?

And as a reminder, if you post something in a thread and you want us to see it and reply then you should use the "Report Post" feature. If not then you take your chances that we'll see it when we see it which could be days or weeks later.

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And, FTR this is posted on the casino's readily accessible "About Us" page:

Club Gold Casino operates under a gaming licence issued by the Government of Curacao in the Netherlands Antilles.

And ye old Google machine will happily present you with the following:

Curaçao eGaming (

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Pletterijweg Oost
Ara Hilltop Building
Curaçao
phone:+5999 465 1134
fax:+5999 465 1136
info@curacao-egaming.com

Not sure if that's the "mysterious" and "confidential" info you were referring to but ... there you go!

 

[Nifty29]

I might be wrong, but I think the problem on the operator end is that they can't see if you have activated the dollar ball progressive or not with each bet, hence they can't review your play properly.

I've seen someone mention this...I just can't recall where. It may or may not be true, but it has some logic about it.

If this is NOT the case, then IMO....and also technically...a slot WITHOUT the DB activated is just a regular slot, and should be treated as such.

Either way, PT casinos should have a clear explanation of what "progressive slot" means in their terms. I guess the other way to look at it is that these ARE progressives, but you're just not playing for the jackpot, much like playing 4 lines on Fruit Mania etc.

 

[stokes]

Either way, PT casinos should have a clear explanation of what "progressive slot" means in their terms. I guess the other way to look at it is that these ARE progressives, but you're just not playing for the jackpot, much like playing 4 lines on Fruit Mania etc.

Then players should not be able to open Dollar Ball enhanced slots in Fun mode (just like the "normal" progressive slots are not allowed) if they consider them progressive to avoid confusion.

But the flaw in the logic still remains. I.e. Originally they banned the progressives to avoid the Jackpot winning using bonus, but not enabling the Dollar Ball the player has no chance to win it (like you said: without DB it's just a regular slot).

 

[Temperance Fox]

Nifty , I'm sure 100% they can check everything.

Finally all PLAYTECH casino are provided by the same Company.Otherwise other casinos couldn't write "The bonus and your deposit amount is only to be played on slot machines, kenos, and non-progressive scratch cards offered by XXXXXX until you meet the wagering requirement in full. Please note that with the EXCEPTION of "Marvel, MGM, Universal themed games", (Thor,Pink Panther, Punisher, Iron Man, Iron Man2, Hulk, Blade, Elektra, Fantastic 4, X-men, Daredevil), bets placed on any Progressive slot machine and or “activating” the Dollar Side Ball Progressive option at anytime while playing is wholly restricted.

 

[bsilva028]

i had already played at CG and gotta paid with no problems also
related to the bonuses, i only take that "standard" bonus, where you can play all games without any restriction, bonus is not so big as 300 or 400%? no, it stays faraway from that, but are not bad at all for a no games restrictions.

personally and to avoid that confusions with what is progressive, dollar ball, etc.. because there´s no game to check

 

[Temperance Fox]

Hope they pay sometimes...I've been paid too there.The first one in 2011 and the second one with the last iussue.Better 1000 than 9000

 

[bsilva028]

i never vashed out that value in a time
low values but more times
ex: 200 + 100 + 300 + 400 (in different days/months/deposites)

all the times that gotta paid was with "no need to check games because all games was allowed" (including table, progressives etc)

in total is a bit more than $1000

 

[sparkz]

I had a thought in my head earlier today (a random moment relating to dollar ball).

Lets say you play at MG... Some Progressive jackpot's cannot be won unless you are betting max bet and have 5 wilds or 5 highest value symbol (or 3 if its a 3 reel) on winline. Technically if your not betting max bet, you cant win the jackpot so it's just like a normal slot, however what you put in contributes to the Progressive jackpot value and it means the casino has to contribute the amount to the pot out of their own pockets. Thus fine if you are playing with your own cash only.. but its an excessive cost if your playing with a bonus (technically free cash) and they are having to pay into the pot.

I cant remember much about dollarball as I avoid PT casino's nowadays, but if the concept is the same, that could be why its restricted... yea you cant win the JP, but money from spins is added to the progressive jackpot which the casino has to pay.

 

[Temperance Fox]

Pls! there're always been one rule.
At PLT there are fixed progressive
and standard that became progressives ONLY if you enable DB
All PLT casino respect this rule. some of them clearly write this , other not.But never had a misgiviving about that

So tell me why CGC

is the unique place where this rule isn't valid
is the only casino making S.Holmes investigations before pay a player
denies cash out for the most absurd reasons I have heard

and so on....

last, but not least

Yeah Maxd, I 'm quite able to search for something with the old good Google

but, I don't stop , I go on....

So it is too much simple.Go on into the searches and you'll find very many interesting things

Only thank God that CGC isn't still into accredited list, but if you keep on believieng every single word they say, well, I'm not so sure
I'm fighting only with my forces and with a little help from my frends..Now it's time of vacation and it's not worth while to show anything.

 

[stokes]

I had a thought in my head earlier today (a random moment relating to dollar ball).

Lets say you play at MG... Some Progressive jackpot's cannot be won unless you are betting max bet and have 5 wilds or 5 highest value symbol (or 3 if its a 3 reel) on winline. Technically if your not betting max bet, you cant win the jackpot so it's just like a normal slot, however what you put in contributes to the Progressive jackpot value and it means the casino has to contribute the amount to the pot out of their own pockets. Thus fine if you are playing with your own cash only.. but its an excessive cost if your playing with a bonus (technically free cash) and they are having to pay into the pot.

I cant remember much about dollarball as I avoid PT casino's nowadays, but if the concept is the same, that could be why its restricted... yea you cant win the JP, but money from spins is added to the progressive jackpot which the casino has to pay.

I don't think the concept would be the same.

Dollar Ball is a side game added at some point (as Vinyl explained it earlier) to many PT slots without altering the original game. I think there is no progressive part in the bets played on the original slot, all winnings paid from the separate bets (1 USD) placed by enabling the DB feature.

 

[Temperance Fox]

I had a thought in my head earlier today (a random moment relating to dollar ball).



I cant remember much about dollarball as I avoid PT casino's nowadays, but if the concept is the same, that could be why its restricted... yea you cant win the JP, but money from spins is added to the progressive jackpot which the casino has to pay.

standard/progressive....take a look.At PLT when u play in standard mode NOTHING goes into the jp pot

 

[sparkz]

Fair enough, was only a thought.

As I mentioned I don't play at PT casino's anymore. Too many are rogues with slow payout, no flushing, etc so havent played in years and forgot how their progressives worked.

 

[Temperance Fox]

and for sure, this kind of iussues doesn't help you to give them a chanche

but I can tell u my most important winnings was made at PLT

and was ever payed

 

[Temperance Fox]

Appetizer

How can you believe in a casino that looks like this ?????????

 

[Temperance Fox]

So, I want to know where they're licensed , cause I've to be payed.That's all





dear Dino G. or A.M. stop with your jokes , and, on top, CM pay attention.Not always those are more able to speak your language are on the right side


ps 9000 euros.We can close it now and let people to your mirrors.<snip>.

 

[SubzeroWins]

Didnt read the entire thread, but from what I did read you definetly got screwed.
I have one question: why the hell would you take a 85x WR bonus?

 

[Temperance Fox]

dear, as I told i had money enough and I gave them one more chanche
I didn't like them from the beginning.... I'm keeping on doing a personal battle.Too many mysteries, and I don't like liers.And finally PLT is on my side.
Don't care bout 5000 or 9000.But unfair Casinos must be closed.
That's all

 

[SubzeroWins]

dear, as I told i had money enough and I gave them one more chanche
I didn't like them from the beginning.... I'm keeping on doing a personal battle.Too many mysteries, and I don't like liers.And finally PLT is on my side.
Don't care bout 5000 or 9000.But unfair Casinos must be closed.
That's all

Why would you drop thousands of euro's on a casino you never liked from the beginning?

Edit: i did some more reading. @OP: Please use your connections and send some henchemen with baseball bats to the Antilles. Id love to know what happens next. Casino staff shitting their pants, or maybe they hire their own henchmen for an epic standoff

 

[Jasminebed]

Thanks for the info about the licence Temperance. I noticed there was a change in terms July 5, 2013, and I read them and couldn't spot the change, and I asked support and they couldn't tell me.

I am sure they WERE licenced in Curacao at one point, and probably were when your play occurred. At least their terms stated they were, I've never clicked links for seals to be honest.

But the current terms mention no licence at all.

I do find that disturbing and thank you for the info. A licence in Curacao doesn't inspire a whole lot of confidence, but no licence?

I've been a loyal Club Gold player for a while, but I won't be depositing until I hear some explanation or correction.

 

[Casinomeister]

dear, as I told i had money enough and I gave them one more chanche
I didn't like them from the beginning.... I'm keeping on doing a personal battle.Too many mysteries, and I don't like liers.And finally PLT is on my side.
Don't care bout 5000 or 9000.But unfair Casinos must be closed.
That's all

No - belligerent threads that are created in order to manipulate a casino to pay you what you don't deserve should be closed.

You clearly violated their terms and conditions - and they were within their right to not pay you your winnings. Get over it and quit acting like a whacko player from hell.

If their licensing info on their website needs updating, then let's point it out and anticipate an update. But for you to start dragging in the casino rep's family members and what he does on his free time is not only out of line, it's despicable.

And this is pretty rich coming from someone with your profession. I am rather astonished. Shame on you.

One more childish outburst from you and kiss your membership goodbye.

 

[Casinomeister]

Just to add, I've been in contact with the operator, and they have provided me with all of the relevant information in respect of the license they currently hold, and that the issue is in the process of being resolved.

 

[Casinomeister]

And to further add - Temperance Fax has apologized:

"Apologize,I fully agree,but only about the words you edited.I deserved punishment.Too much hot weather and too much dark beer...
Seriously:I'm very sorry"