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Cleopatras Gold (RTG) rigged?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Rusty, Apr 28, 2009.

    Apr 28, 2009
  1. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    Has anyone else noticed this game playing differently?

    The reason I ask is because there are Three strange statistical anomalies that have appeared that were not present before.

    1) I have hit the First Two scatters (reel 1&2) over a Hundred times consecutively without initiating the Free spin round (previously it used trigger around 1 in 5)

    2) I have not hit 5 of a kind on Two win lines (Two combos same spin) over the same period (Yet this used to happen reasonably often)

    3) I have not had a Feature pay over 100Xbet over the same period even with retriggers. (Usually it is between 10 and 20X bet)

    I am unsure of the start date but the period includes a great number of spins (5 figures) on this slot at various RTG.

    Now the fact that all 3 massively unlikely events have coincided over the same period (must be many Millions to One) makes me think that this slot has been altered but since the Reels and paytable are the same that would mean it has been rigged by RTG to pay less.

    Or is this just a case of 3 unrelated events coming together to make for One huge coincidence?

    If you have played this slot a lot (Tens of Thousands of spins) both in the past and currently what are your experiences?
    Are they similar to mine or are they completely different?
     
  2. Apr 28, 2009
  3. lauram

    lauram Dormant account

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    This same slot has given me issues also. Month back it started with soon a scatter landed no sound for it. If i heard the sound meant scatter only. I could not line up more then 3 symbols and lucky if that out of 100 spins one day.
    And now im lucky if i even see scatter. One spin of mine i had 3 scatter one on the last one as the reel stopped the second reel spun again and away went my 3 scatters. So yes they have done something to this i barley play it any longer.
     
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  4. Apr 28, 2009
  5. gerilege

    gerilege Meister Member PABnorogue PABrogue

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    I have noticed that when I get a scatter on any of the first three reels, and there won't be another scatter on the screen at the end, then there's no sound for the scatter. Only if I will get at least two scatters the sound is present.
     
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  6. Apr 28, 2009
  7. tombee

    tombee Experienced Member

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    I don't know what it is, but I did notice before that I've only had bad luck on this slot for the last 10.000 something spins. I tend to avoid it now, while it used to be of my favorites :(
     
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  8. Apr 28, 2009
  9. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    Yes and that is the same for everybody yet it never used to happen until an update.
    That is proof at least that the code affecting the game has been changed.
    This bug is not present in Cleo's Millions.
     
  10. Apr 28, 2009
  11. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    That is interesting because now the RJ on Cleopatras Gold increases more slowly than many other slots yet it used to be One that would increase the quickest intimating that many others have noticed the same issues.
     
  12. Apr 28, 2009
  13. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    Are you stretching this a bit? Over 100 times in a row? Or do you mean over 100 instances of this occurrence? Quite a difference. :) I would love to see those logs...
     
  14. Apr 28, 2009
  15. ramones70

    ramones70 Quit Gambling

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    Personally I think that's the case. I have noticed the same thing at some other games. Goldbeard which is one of my favorite games just frustrates me nowadays; free spins that suck and wild symbols that almost never appear in a winning line.
     
  16. Apr 28, 2009
  17. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    Obviously I do not mean 100 times in 100 spins if that is what you have inferred.

    Unfortunately the playlog data I have access to does not show the reel positions of each spin so I am going off memory.
    I naturally started taking note after noticing it was not hitting maybe 10 times or so in a row.
    Since then many Thousands of spins later I have been looking out for it.
    I don't set autoplay that often but hey it is possible the feature triggered with the First Two scatters and I've missed it but that is very unlikely.
    I am not stretching it at all that is why it is so compelling.

    I did manage it on a retrigger as I remember but not to initiate the free spins.
    I am sure RTG have access to the full data and I will happily have them go over all my playlogs to see.

    I have playlogs that prove the other Two anomalies and those alone are strong evidence something is amiss.
     
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  18. Apr 28, 2009
  19. skiny

    skiny Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.cas

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    Gold Rush

    Last game I played was Gold Rush. 944 spins at 25 cents per spin.

    Almost 96% hit less than one dollar. In fact 88% hit less than my 25 cent wager and I averaged a free spin feature at 1 out of 236 spins.

    I've had better days.

    Sometimes it seems like the longer I play on a deposit the worse the odds get.
     
  20. Apr 28, 2009
  21. ksech

    ksech Dormant account

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    I noticed the no sound issue for the scatters back before Christmas. Cleopatras Gold used to be one of my favorite games. I find it very difficult to hit a bonus round, and when I do the pay out is far less than what I have invested in the game. Example, playing Fruit Frenzy (another one of my favorite games), it took me 250 spins before the bonus round hit. I was making small wins, enough to keep me playing. The bonus round netted me 10 free spins to a whopping total of $12 and some change. I was playing .50 a spin.
    ***I am one of those players who will keep spinning hoping that "great" bonus round will hit within the next few spins***
     
  22. Apr 28, 2009
  23. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

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    Been saying this numerous times for the last many months...especially after every "update" that seems to be done.

    All RTG's have been affected. I said it before and I say it again..the changes have been subtle for the new player not to notice , but the old players such as me that has been playing since 1996 or earlier (can't remember but know it is at least then), knows when something is not quite the same..

    I played Inetbet all weekend and the RJ spinner was barely moving on all the huge jackpots which we know always spin faster when it gets super high. One was over 14,000 and the other over 10,000 and barely crawling...they didn't change hardly at all all weekend. What are the odds of that???

    They have been for months..Yes, things are definitley changing and not for the better. I have stopped playing a lot because of this. I still dabble here and there but not like I used to.

    I am waiting for the other shoe to drop where it becomes legal and then I will come back on board full force knowing someone is watching these places and keeping them honest . Right now..I think they are falling to the wayside from greed maybe?

    Can't be lack of players because they all claim huge signups...If Intercasino would open their doors again, that would be my main spot...I know they are on the up and up for I have played there early on...and actually hit their Rapid Fire jackpots on and off with different denominations played unlike RTG....not one in all these years playing 20 cents to over $5 a spin..

    I still say only new players are now allowed to hit them and it is proven almost every time by the signups at CM (screenshots) How many oldies have hit it recently? (in the last few months)? I can count them on one hand...how many newbies, you have to use your fingers and toes and the person next to you too..so that too has changed...and I have given up all hope on hitting one ever now at any RTG..and I played RTG 90% of the time so you figure it out...the odds should have been with me a long time ago...


    Pretty soon, the bonus rounds will be just a dream the way they keep "updating" these games..
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  24. Apr 29, 2009
  25. skiny

    skiny Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.cas

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    I've been complaining about the lack of bonus features on the real series slot games for quite a while but I just get told I have bad luck.

    What do I know? Maybe I do have bad luck.

    4 bonus features out of almost 1000 spins seems a little harsh though. Specially when the last two only earn about 5 bucks each.
     
  26. Apr 29, 2009
  27. hucorte

    hucorte Experienced Member

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    No problem

    No problem in my case. As regular as the other slots. In fact a bit better than some.
     
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  28. Apr 29, 2009
  29. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    Thanks.
    Have you activated the feature when hitting the First Two Scatters and have you hit bonus rounds of over 100X bet recently?
    Also have you managed a win of 5 of a kind on more than 1 line on 1 spin?
    At which Casinos do you play this slot?

    Thanks again.
     
  30. Apr 29, 2009
  31. skiny

    skiny Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.cas

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    Now after posting about the lack of bonus features I hit 10 free spins in Achilles and then hit the bonus spins 4 more times during the free spin feature making a total of 50 consecutive free spins.

    Course at only a 20 cent bet the entire thing only paid about 14 bucks. :p
     
  32. Apr 29, 2009
  33. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

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    I guess they gave you a star by your name after posting :lolup:

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  34. Apr 29, 2009
  35. gloria460

    gloria460 Meister Member

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    Florida
     
  36. Apr 29, 2009
  37. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

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    I hit them twice in one sitting, many, many moons ago...ahhh..those were the days! :rolleyes:

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  38. Apr 29, 2009
  39. skiny

    skiny Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.cas

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    Every time I play these RTG slots I see exactly the same pattern.

    I deposit. Win for a short time a little amount and then hit a losing streak until my balance hits zero.

    I just dropped from $55 to $14 at minimum bet on real series slots before finally hitting a 2 bonus features and both of them won me back less than a dollar each.

    I've even tried quitting and coming back but the streak carries on till the money is gone.

    Of course I'm always told it's just my bad luck. Odds have nothing to do with gambling. :rolleyes:
     

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