CentreBet Casino - no longer Accredited

Casinomeister

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Just a heads up that CenterBet has informed me that they want to be removed from the Accredited Casino section. They no longer can accept players from any countries but Australia, Denmark, Greece, and Cyprus.

It's rather shortsighted IMO - and rather an abrupt move since they have been listed on this site for several years.

And there are plenty of players from Australia and Greece here - but oh well, it's their choice.

Bye bye Centrebet.
 

mattsgame

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Just a heads up that CenterBet has informed me that they want to be removed from the Accredited Casino section. They no longer can accept players from any countries but Australia, Denmark, Greece, and Cyprus.

It's rather shortsighted IMO - and rather an abrupt move since they have been listed on this site for several years.

And there are plenty of players from Australia and Greece here - but oh well, it's their choice.

Bye bye Centrebet.

This does not sound right, Centrebet cannot accept Aussies in the casino :/ they would be in hot water because of there sports book.

It's even in there terms and conditions

4. Forbidden Jurisdictions
4.1 - Centrebet Casino and Centrebet Games are not permitted to offer gaming to persons present in Australia. If you are present in Australia, you agree you will not enter, or attempt to make an entry into, a game conducted on those sites.

4.2 - You are not permitted to access Online Casino and/or the Website if you are present in Australia or a resident of Antigua and Barbuda, the Netherlands Antilles, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Estonia, France and French Overseas Territories, Hong Kong, Israel, Malta, the Philippines, Turkey, Italy or the United States of America.

4.3 - Any entries that are made in breach of this condition are void and no entitlement to any winnings arises. Centrebet Ltd reserves the right to terminate any player's registration and close the player's account, if the player acts in breach of this requirement.


I am a little confused here :confused:
 

SlotMonster

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Can't understand their decision. Being accredited here doesn't mean to be able to accept all players in the world. Accredited casino must meet given requirements...I doubt they stopped.
 

AeternuS

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This is from centrebet affiliate:

"After a long and difficult review process we have made a business decision
to STOP ADVERTISING OUTSIDE OF OUR CORE-REGIONS, EFFECTIVE 1 AUGUST 2011.
This includes free bets and bonus offers for all products, including
sports, racing, casino, poker, games and arcade.

The core-regions are: Australia, Denmark, Greece, Cyprus and Norway.

If your websites are not specifically directed at Australia, Denmark,
Greece, Cyprus or Norway, please remove any mention of Centrebet from your
sites, this includes text, images or any links.

Offers in our core-regions of Australia, Denmark, Greece, Cyprus and Norway
will continue to be available as normal."



I guess they fly away and will continue focusing only to these 5 countries, wtf!
 

Casinomeister

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Here is their announcement:


As of 1st AUGUST all advertising outside our core regions must cease.
This includes all free bets and bonus offers for all products, including
sports, racing, casino, poker, games and arcade.

The core-regions are: Australia, Denmark, Greece, Cyprus and Norway.

If your websites are not specifically directed at Australia, Denmark,
Greece, Cyprus or Norway, please remove any mention of Centrebet from
your sites, this includes text, images or any links.


Offers in our core-regions of Australia, Denmark, Greece, Cyprus and
Norway will continue to be available as normal.

I asked them if they really wanted to be removed from the Accredited Section. They said "yes".
 

mattsgame

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I see I thought we where just talking about there casino side, so my mistake.

Australia is a core market but only on the Sports book side of things.

You could always throw up some sports book banners for Aussies and CentreBet :p
 

rainmaker

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It is disappointing to see that Centrebet do not want to be a part of this casino community. I was hoping that they finally would release their potential (with regards to the Sportingbet acquisition).

But on the other side, this is not a surprise. Sportingbet buys Centrebet with the intention to accelerates the group's strategy of increasing its exposure to regulated markets and of geographic diversification. Especially the fast-growing market in Australia is of great importance for Sportingbet.

I do not think that the review process was long and difficult. This has probably been planned long before Sportingbet agreed to buy Centrebet.
 

jetset

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I think this may be related to the recent deal through which Sportingbet in Europe is taking over Centrebet for around A$183 million.

By rationalising and focusing operations in specific areas, the merged company can probably make significant savings.
 

rainmaker

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Just wanted to add some more info that will further explain why Centrebet have made this decision.

Centrebet released a 275 page long "scheme booklet" on 13 July 2011. The decision of focusing their business in the core market was indicated there.

Sportingbet will assess the relative strengths of the Centrebet
business in each of the other geographic markets in which it
operates over a reasonable period of time post implementation
of the Schemes. It is envisaged that the operations of the
Centrebet Group and the Sportingbet Group will be merged,
taking the best aspects from each group to create a world class
operation
. The future of the relative brands will be assessed on
a case by case basis in each geographical market, though it is
intended that the brands of both the Centrebet Group and the
Sportingbet Group will be retained.


About Norwegian market:

In line with the Sportingbet Group’s current stance in relation to
the Norwegian market, Sportingbet intends to cease taking bets
from the Norwegian market shortly after the implementation
of the Schemes and to effect an exit from the Norwegian
market as soon as reasonably practicable thereafter.


About Australian market:

The Australian sports betting operation generated 16% of the
Sportingbet Group’s gross gaming revenue in the year ended
31 July 2010. In Australia, the Sportingbet Group’s operations
are based in Darwin and are regulated by a licence issued by the
Northern Territory Government. The Sportingbet Group runs
both a telephone betting business and an online betting business
in Australia.


As you can see, Sportingbet have great potential to expand in Australia. And the Centrebet takeover will certainly give them a boost in this market.
 

Simmo!

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Additional note: I enquired about this last week and was told that will still accept players from other jurisdictions (they previously accepted) if they roll up at the door but that they did not want to advertise in those countries and that those players would not be elligible for bonuses.
 

Casinomeister

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Additional note: I enquired about this last week and was told that will still accept players from other jurisdictions (they previously accepted) if they roll up at the door but that they did not want to advertise in those countries and that those players would not be elligible for bonuses.

Even so, it's rather sad to see big mergers and $$ deals outweigh having a relationship with a player community like Casinomeister. No sour grapes, but these impersonal corporate moves always put me off.

At least the casino rep could have made an announcement here :rolleyes:
 

vinylweatherman

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This may backfire. As a player I cannot figure out whether they want me or not, or in the case of Sportingbet casino, is my account there no longer valid since I am not in their new "core market".

I cannot see why they are so concerned about being "world class", when at the same time only wanting players from a mere FIVE countries throughout the world.

Being removed from the accredited section also sends the wrong message to potential players who ARE in their core market, as they may do some research before joining, and find various references to them being "removed from the accredited list at Casinomeister", and may consider that this happened as the result of their standards falling. This will be worse when the search links to reports in other forums about this, rather than the Casinomeister announcement itself that explains why they were removed.

It is possible that like Canbet, they intend to ditch the casino product altogether to concentrate on their sportsbook.
 

rainmaker

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It is possible that like Canbet, they intend to ditch the casino product altogether to concentrate on their sportsbook.

Yes, I think it is very likely that Centrebet will ditch their casino products.

They reported last year (strategic plan "project rocket") that underlying revenue in total was $69,9 mill (FY2010). $47,7 mill from Australia and $22,2 from Europe. 47% of the underlying revenue in Europe came from the casino section. This means that only $10 mill of the total underlying revenue of $69,9 mill was generated from the casino.

Centrebet makes it very clear now that they want to focus "everything" on their core products (betting). So I do not think that their casino is a part of their future.

I will also add that I really do not think that everybody at Centrebet is pleased with this new strategy. I think there are a lot of internal disagreements.

This is of course only speculations :oops:
 

Centre-Wise

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Hi all,

Please note there are no immediate plans to change our product offering nor our standards of service for our players. The current change is meant to limit our visibility to our core regions. Whilst I don't necessarily like not being accredited, this may help to avoid player confusion in the future.

I will still be available here to deal with any player concerns (if that's alright :D).

Thanks to everyone for their support and understanding.

Cheers,

Derek
Centrebet
 

vinylweatherman

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Hi all,

Please note there are no immediate plans to change our product offering nor our standards of service for our players. The current change is meant to limit our visibility to our core regions. Whilst I don't necessarily like not being accredited, this may help to avoid player confusion in the future.

I will still be available here to deal with any player concerns (if that's alright :D).

Thanks to everyone for their support and understanding.

Cheers,

Derek
Centrebet

It just seems odd that you are deliberately turning away players from non-core regions just because there are not that many currently using the service. When a shop sells a product to a customer that is not one of it's "regulars", it still makes just as much money from that sale, and overall the non-regulars boost the profits.

With the affiliate system, the affiliates do all the marketing in return for their commission payments, and also take on the risk that the cost of this marketing will be greater than the commissions generated. The casino simply looks after the players that come through, and at no more cost than it would incur for a player from one of the core regions.

When the core market becomes "saturated", then what? It will be much harder (and more expensive) to attract new players, and the non-core markets have already been told they are not wanted, so are less likely to join when you suddenly change your mind and say they ARE wanted after all.

Players you already have from non-core areas are going to feel they are no longer wanted, but merely tolerated until they leave of their own accord. This will encourage them to leave quickly, and take their custom to where they are wanted, rather than merely tolerated.

Even though all mention of Centrebet is removed from affiliate websites that don't focus on the specific core regions, there WILL still be non-core exposure through the various player fora, and a good review from a core-region player on such a forum will in itself drive non-core traffic to the site. If this non-core traffic then has a bad experience through not being made to feel welcome because they are non-core, they will post this as "balance" to the good review.
Since most players, core or non-core, will have little idea about the internal workings and marketing plans of the business, potential new CORE players will take the reviews at face value, and give equal weight to those posted by core and non-core players alike. This would also cover them misinterpreting the story "Centrebet - removed from Casinomeister's accredited list".


When I read the thread title & subject. The first thing I thought was "what have they done to a player to deserve this", and I then read the thread fully expecting a tale of woe culminating in some kind of rogue status being granted. Had I NOT read the thread, but only had the headline, I would have continued to believe that the removal had something to do with Centrebet having done something wrong, and if I was one of their core region potential players, I would be almost impossible to attract, and would read every piece of marketing coming from them with suspicion, looking for the trap(s) set to screw me over should I win.

Centrebet should keep a close eye on the player fora, and regularly "Google" the kind of search terms a potential player might use when trying to research the reliabilty of the group prior to opening their account.
 

rainmaker

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Hi all,

Please note there are no immediate plans to change our product offering nor our standards of service for our players. The current change is meant to limit our visibility to our core regions. Whilst I don't necessarily like not being accredited, this may help to avoid player confusion in the future.

I will still be available here to deal with any player concerns (if that's alright :D).

Thanks to everyone for their support and understanding.

Cheers,

Derek
Centrebet


It is nice to see that you still will be available to deal with player concerns :thumbsup:

I am sure that most members who have contacted you here will agree with me that you as a rep is very helpful and skilled.

Centrebet have certainly been more visible here in Norway lately. They have launched some new Norwegian TV commercials (sports betting).
 
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