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Discussion in 'Introduce yourself! (New Members)' started by Alex.Zodiacu, Aug 27, 2018.

    Aug 27, 2018
  1. Alex.Zodiacu

    Alex.Zodiacu I-Gaming Industry Representative

    Occupation:
    Zodiacu Rep
    Location:
    Kyiv
    Hi All,

    My name is Alex, and there are two things I like the most: a smoky whiskey and a good service. Ask me about the first, if we met in person and about the second if you come to Zodiacu Casino. We have just started our way here entering the grey zone area.

    You're warmly welcome to share any kind of experience and emotions you may find in Zodiacu. I'm here to listen to you and provide reasonable solutions.

    Cheers,
    Alex
     
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  2. Aug 27, 2018
  3. helenakp

    helenakp Senior Member PABaccred

    Location:
    MK
    Hi Alex welcome to CM :)

    I have an account at your casino but the problem or what i didn't like is to claim your welcome bonus 25 euros is the minimum deposit.That's the reason i still didn't made my first deposit at Zodiacu...
     
  4. Aug 27, 2018
  5. Alex.Zodiacu

    Alex.Zodiacu I-Gaming Industry Representative

    Occupation:
    Zodiacu Rep
    Location:
    Kyiv
    Hi Helena,

    First of all, thank you for joining Zodiacu. Of course, I know there're many casinos out there offering min. deposit of 10 eur or so. And in our case, once you go for 25eur min deposit, you'll find 50 eur on your balance and 200 FS coming to you during 10 following days 20 per day. How do you like this option?

    It would be of help if you could share the concern of performing our min. deposit.
     
  6. Aug 27, 2018
  7. helenakp

    helenakp Senior Member PABaccred

    Location:
    MK
    Well to be honest,casinos i play usually offer 20 euros minimum deposits and you know there are casinos offering the same amount of free spins plus the bonus for only 10 euros,so 20 euros would be fair,but that's my opinion :)
     
  8. Aug 27, 2018
  9. Alex.Zodiacu

    Alex.Zodiacu I-Gaming Industry Representative

    Occupation:
    Zodiacu Rep
    Location:
    Kyiv
    Helena,

    I agree that smaller minimum deposit lets a player do the first step easier. When I get into such situation as a client, I take it in the same way as when I buy gas or cigarettes: why can't I take several packs with discount, if I know I'll buy another one anyway at the appropriate time. Of course, if I ensure the affordance of these expenses to me.

    May the luck follow you!
    Alex
     
  10. Aug 28, 2018
  11. sapit222

    sapit222 Senior Member MM PABaccred

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Sweden
    Welcome to CM Alex! :thumbsup:

    Im not a member of your casino yet, but checked the bonus rules a quicky.

    • 3.6. The following games are excluded from bonus wagering: all Jackpot games, Scrooge, Devil's Delight, Tower Quest, Pearls of India, Tomb Raider 2, Robin Hood, Vampire: The Masquerade - Las Vegas, Beautiful Bones, Baker's Treat, Super Nudge 6000, Jackpot 6000, Castle Builder, Castle Builder II, The Wish Master, Blood Suckers, Lights, 300 Shields, Forsaken Kingdom, Untamed Wolf Pack, Untamed Bengal Tiger, Untamed Giant Panda, Stardust, Cool Buck, Sweet Alchemy, Peek-a-Boo, Sea Hunter, Eye of the Kraken or other similar games.
    or other similar games? What games is that? :what:

    • 5.5. Once the wagering requirements are met, the maximum amount that you can convert from a bonus money to real money balance is EUR 3,000 (or 30,000 SEK/NOK). The rest part of bonus balance will be automatically deducted from your account after completing wagering requirements.
    I dont like a bonus with a max win... :mad: it ruins a lot of the fun playing with a bonus and hoping to hit the big win. :(

    Bonus + deposit x30 is a bit high also...

    Will you get BTG games? :cool:
     
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  12. Aug 28, 2018
  13. Alex.Zodiacu

    Alex.Zodiacu I-Gaming Industry Representative

    Occupation:
    Zodiacu Rep
    Location:
    Kyiv
    Hej @sapit222,

    Thank you for bringing attention to this matter. The games listed and assumed in clause 3.6 have an ability of multiplication of embedded bonus games. For example, when you can bet accumulated extra bonuses given inside of a particular game.

    It is also notable that no limits applied to win that occurs as an outcome of accumulated bonus money but was gained from real money bet. As the welcome bonus in Zodiacu is no-sticky, this scenario becomes possible in the event when you accumulate inner bonus money from bonus wagering, finish your bonus and then proceed to play with a money from a new deposit. I guess not many would share this hint, wouldn't they?

    In general, your questions open the door to the sensitive topic of generous bonus programs and risks they carry for casinos. Limitations applicable to bonus game such as max win amount, a wagering requirements or games' selection were made to protect a house from facing enormous losses from bountiful bonus offers. Due to the math of the game, if 10 000 players come to the casino to fully use 100% welcome bonus and some FS on top, and then leave, the house is to lose from dozens to hundreds of thousands. So the limits are there not to let this business take operators to the cleaners by night. Thus it might be more correct to take such terms as we do with numbers of FS, cashback or other perks given.

    As for BTG games, we're going to have in the future, and I can give no exact date of launch for now. What are your favorites? Probably I can help you to worthy alternatives in our selection of slots.

    Varma hälsningar,
    Alex
     
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  14. Aug 28, 2018
  15. LadyJelena

    LadyJelena CM Account Manager Staff Member CAG MM

    Occupation:
    Account Manager @ Casinomeister
    Location:
    Serbia
    Welcome to the forum Alex!

    Hope you'll have fun and also hear many constructive suggestions and feedbacks :)
     
  16. Aug 28, 2018
  17. Alex.Zodiacu

    Alex.Zodiacu I-Gaming Industry Representative

    Occupation:
    Zodiacu Rep
    Location:
    Kyiv
    Thanks, Jelena,

    I enjoy my stay!
     
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  18. Aug 28, 2018
  19. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

    Occupation:
    I work :D
    Location:
    Canada
    Flawed thinking and reasoning. The welcome bonus is to get players in the door. Then you have a sign up for life so if they choose to play in the future you benefit. There are hundreds of casinos accredited and listed here that do not cap their winnings. You have alot of competition, having rules like this only hurts you.

    And I am not sure why you think the 100% bonus means you are at risk so much. For every 10 welcome bonuses I took, I maybe clear one or two.

    You need to list every single game that is excluded by name. You cannot expect players to know or guess which is which.
     
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  20. Aug 29, 2018
  21. Alex.Zodiacu

    Alex.Zodiacu I-Gaming Industry Representative

    Occupation:
    Zodiacu Rep
    Location:
    Kyiv
    Dear @lockinlove,

    I appreciate you raising the issue of the competitiveness of welcome offers. To let us move from general to specific, let's look at welcome bonus terms offered by Top certified casinos here at CM and let the numbers talk.

    Catch the greeting wave from Zodiacu Casino: upload_2018-8-29_14-8-12.png,Aug 29, 2018

    @sapit222, this should be of interest to you as well.

    And to let us move from theory to practice, I'm ready to offer you the following: if you would like us to credit you with any 1st deposit offer from this list instead of our current one, you'll have it done. How would you like it?
     
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  22. Aug 29, 2018
  23. bowki

    bowki Senior Member

    Occupation:
    -
    Location:
    Germany
    Hi Alex and welcome to CM!

    If you compare your offer to others you should be fair and tell us that the wagering is actually double than what you state. Its 60X the bonus amount and not 30X. Getting worse when you take a bonus less than 100%.

    Way to many casinos advertise with ONLY 30/35/40X wagering when in reality the deposit is included and doubles the wagering.
     
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  24. Aug 29, 2018
  25. Jayjay231221

    Jayjay231221 Full Member

    Location:
    Warrington
    And 60x is very high indeed something I wouldn't personally bother with
     
  26. Aug 29, 2018
  27. Alex.Zodiacu

    Alex.Zodiacu I-Gaming Industry Representative

    Occupation:
    Zodiacu Rep
    Location:
    Kyiv
    Hey @bowki,

    It's correct that wager x30 applicable for both deposit and bonus money. We should also count here the available amount of bonuses, that works in an opposite way to wager. The table above was provided as a base, but should we reduce the discussion to bonus-measuring contest? I believe true casino entertainment includes free-roll fun as a very small part of a common impression, doesn't it? We all like bright covers, but still, we don't judge books by them.
     
  28. Aug 29, 2018
  29. bowki

    bowki Senior Member

    Occupation:
    -
    Location:
    Germany
    Well, you started the discussion and compared yourself to others. If you dont want us to talk about the negatives then why start with it in the first place?

    I agree that bonuses are just a small part of the whole package. However I said it here many times in different threads:

    I am already registered at a couple of first class casinos where I can play without a bonus and get paid fast when Iam lucky at anytime I wish.

    So what makes me register at a new Casino where I dont know how fast I will get my winnings and how much of a PITA the KYC will be?

    Games? Everywhere the same.

    So I need a motivation to get in and maybe find out I get a good treatment and become a regular customer. And this is the point where a good and fair welcome bonus is the best way to get my attention.

    And I would cry if it happens exactly at a time where I have a max cashout when I get THAT hit at Bonanza and cant cash it all out.
     
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  30. Aug 30, 2018
  31. Alex.Zodiacu

    Alex.Zodiacu I-Gaming Industry Representative

    Occupation:
    Zodiacu Rep
    Location:
    Kyiv
    @bowki,

    Thanks for a good question about your motivation. I asked our Oracle in Zodiacu but he only shrugged.
    And if we go serious, different kind of players have different reasons. Some people start by depositing bonus-fitting amount of money. And if they feel their play may be affected by T&C, they're welcome to clarify their doubts with the support team. Another player starts playing with a bankroll big enough not to even notice there were some wagering requirements. He don't care about tons of free spins with no wager, which he can buy in Zodiacu's Stardusthop with the gained complimentary currency called Stardust. In case of a bad luck, he can get by phone several thousand euros to his account withdrawable immediately with no wager, just to brighten his mood.

    Everything is relative. In the end, we're not a sneezing baby panda to be adored by everyone.
     
  32. Aug 30, 2018
  33. bowki

    bowki Senior Member

    Occupation:
    -
    Location:
    Germany
    I dont know why you seem to be so upset about our feedback? If you dont want feedback good or bad why come here and ask for it?


    However, I wish you all the best for your casino. :)
     
  34. Aug 30, 2018
  35. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

    Occupation:
    I work :D
    Location:
    Canada
    Trada casino welcome bonus is 100 spins on a slot and wagering of 20x the bonus. Your max win you are quoting is from no deposit freespins.

    rizk is 40x wager. Yours is 60x. So not sure what you are pointing out there.

    But thanks for letting me know chancehill and playojo welcome bonuses suck too.

    Oh but since you have offered up to match one of the above. I will take Rizk deposit offer assuming your offer is to everyone. Will message when I make a deposit so you can add it. Thanks!

    Just to confirm you have offered 100% up to $100 40x the bonus wager and 50 freespins with no max cashout. Perfect!

    Here is a copy of their chat to confirm they dont cap their welcome bonus

    Catch the greeting wave from Zodiacu Casino: Capture.PNG,Aug 30, 2018
     
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  36. Aug 30, 2018
  37. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

    Occupation:
    I work :D
    Location:
    Canada
    Oh and by the way, those top rated casinos arent rated on their welcome bonus. They are rated on payout times, rep response, ethics etc. They certainly didnt get their rating by having an oracle shrug their shoulders when members asked a question.

    I know some accredited casinos that have a low rating but a good welcome bonus.
     
  38. Aug 30, 2018
  39. lotusch

    lotusch Megaways Slots, as useless as salt in your coffee webby PABaccred mm2

    Occupation:
    Marketing Assistant
    Location:
    Dún Dealgan
    Hey Alex,

    Welcome to the forum.
    I did not hear about this casino yet but I will surely have a look at it and maybe make an account to try the casino out. :thumbsup:
     

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