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Casinos without wagering on free spins (or with low wagering) ?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by theapple, May 19, 2016.

    May 19, 2016
  1. theapple

    theapple IR hates apples

    Occupation:
    i work... slave labor sort of work. like most of u
    Location:
    far far away
    Ok thats it i give up on free spins, ones that come with a deposit obviously. And it doesnt really matter if its 30x , 35x or 88x , i just wont make a single deposit just because im going to get a few free spins with huge wagering attached to it. So now im looking for a casino that accepts europeans (other than Thrills and Videoslots, because my country, Bosnia, isnt accepted there) and has either low wagering on fs, or no wagering at all.

    What finally got me, is what happened today. I got 30 fs at a casino i wont name here (but its fairly nice, other than x35 wagering on fs) and won... $149 with it. What wasnt really nice is that im supposed to spend my next 24 days wagering 5.3k, not being able to play slots i want either, to maybe, possibly get something out of my awesome bonus. Gotta love bonuses.

    Seriously, its about time bonuses start being ... well, bonuses again. No i dont think this was a bonus, at least not one that works in players favor. I dont want to get a bonus that works in a weird way, as in i hope i dont actually win big while playing slots. There is absolutely no logic in that and its just ... evil :)

    The other day i got a rather amazing offer from one of worlds biggest bookmarkers - 200% bonus on my next deposit, with just 60x bonus wagering attached to it! Seriously, if i have taken that, it would be a bonus for casino, not me :p :eek2:

    Im already a member of drueckglueck for a couple of weeks now (since i started playing again) and while they are nice, they dont really offer more than a couple of spins once in a blue moon, plus they only have netent and a few wms games. Im also a member of rizk and got to lvl 21 there in a few days but stopped playing there, because while they do have quite a few games, 5 free spins at 10c you get as a reward are not something im willing to wager hundreds for :/

    Just to make things clear, im not new to slots and im well aware how a few cents (or sometimes a few dollars) you get from 10-20 FS are most likely not going to make you a fortune, wagering or no wagering. I just hate how such an amazing hit got to waste because of unreasonable wagering requirements. I mean something like this happens ... well, it never actually happened to me before, and the worst part is ... now it finally happened after years of online play, i dont feel good for "winning" $149 with a few spins - i actually feel bad because of it.

    Thats not how bonuses should work, and i dont want to feel bad when i get a big win :)

    Any help with finding a new home for, currently somewhat sad...ish apple would be highly appreciated ! :oops:

    edit: now im scared to click spin on free spins :)
    i need help, i think i might have severe case of freespinsphobia :oops:
     
  2. May 19, 2016
  3. brianmon

    brianmon Meister Member webby mm4

    Location:
    uk
    When offering free spins in exchange for a deposit The only way to make free spins (with wagering) worth anything, is to base the wagering on the initial value of the free spins, NOT the winnings.

    I can't see why casinos can't offer that.

    They'll quite happily give £10 bonus with, say 35x wagering for a £10 deposit, meaning a WR of £350, and you can play whatever game you want (with a few restrictions).

    So, why. when they're dictating the game you have to play your 'bonus' on, can't they offer £10 worth of free spins for a £10 deposit with a WR of £350, and NOT what you happen to win from those free spins ?????

    The reason is probably because the majority of people see an offer of, 50 free spins for £10 deposit, and don't think it through.

    I've take deposit based free spins, but only when I've been making a deposit anyway. An offer has NEVER made me make a deposit
     
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  4. May 19, 2016
  5. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

    Occupation:
    Self- Employeed
    Location:
    Wolverhampton
    I take deposit based percentage matches as you guys know and usually shop around for the best deal of the day due to small budget/low roller and so on.

    Free Spins on the other hand, I have learnt my lesson.

    Whilst an offer may seem attractive 'Deposit £20 for 50/100 FS on Jack and The Beanstalk' for example (seen this and similar numerous times over the years)

    Wow, not bad I think, trouble is 99/100 they pay crap and you end up with about a fiver extra on your starting balance PLUS wagering for the sake of said fiver. Win at start of session I'm stuffed!

    On rare days you hit big off FS and then have a 'Mount Everest' of virtually impossible WR to meet.

    A no win situation in most instances.

    At least with a deposit bonus (%) you know before the off exactly how much wagering is expected.

    Or

    As I've learnt to start doing more often now, straight cash, no bonus, no FS and with drawn when I want.

    The other option (which seems fairest and best) is when FS are added the following day or you can play your cash first, withdraw if you get lucky and the FS serve as a back up or a 'free try' the next day (Hopefully without the worrying BS if there are any 'winnings voided' related rules hidden in their T&C's)
     
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  6. May 19, 2016
  7. The Viking

    The Viking Ueber Meister MM

    Occupation:
    chef
    Location:
    Faroe Islands
    so i assume you hit this at Betsafe ;) if so then thats a bloody good hit on Glow
    but i agree thats hefty wagering for 149 bux good luck who knows might get lucky :)
     
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  8. May 19, 2016
  9. mina1929

    mina1929 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Food Catering
    Location:
    World
    What annoys me is when free spins are given you're only allowed to withdraw $200 max at some Casinos.

    I also shop around for good bonuses as my deposits are only small but lately I had no offers from anywhere.

    32 red is good with bonuses and I mostly complete wagering there no problem :)
     
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  10. May 19, 2016
  11. theapple

    theapple IR hates apples

    Occupation:
    i work... slave labor sort of work. like most of u
    Location:
    far far away
    Thanks all for your replies ;) and yeah from now on ill probably just skip those free spins bonuses of any sort that require either wagering tons of real money, or $20-$50 deposit (which is a lot for me since im a lowroller and my weekly budget rarely goes past $100, if that much).

    I also have to shop for nice offers too, and while i play without bonuses quite a few times, its always nice to have a healthier starting bankroll as my budget dictates if i have to look for bonuses or not, so mostly i have to hope for a decent bonus or two :p

    Still cant find some decent casino with low/no wagering requirements though (as in acredited, or at least well received on forums here), so i guess for now its going to be Rizk, once they start sending offers again and make a few lowroller friendly races (weekly races arent exactly lowrollers friendly :p) and drueckglueck. But seriously, who came up with that name -.-
    They were really nice in my first week there, had a several 100% offers and a few deposit free spins (wager free!) plus a few super spins worth $5 each (i even won like $40 with 2 of those but DoA ate me alive so no cashout from those either :D). Nothing especially good after that first week though.

    Speaking of which, did someone take "winnings doubled" offer there (on drueck), because im not entirely sure how does it work? It says they will credit up to x5 your deposit in winnings, as a bonus... So you could deposit 20, get it up to 100 and get another 100 bonus - but thats not cool if you cant cashout your winnings first, as bonus would just make me lose what i won so far, so i really hope thats not how it works :)
    I only tried it once, and got my deposit to 3x but as greedy as i am, it was either 5x or bust... and you can guess which one was it, so now i still have no idea how does it work :confused:

    either way, thank you all for your suggestions. I already mentioned how i just started playing slots recently (maybe a month ago), after a couple of years long break - and bonuses, T&C and whatnot are ugh... ugly nowadays so when i want to try a new casino i usually spend more time reading T&C than playing.

    And boy, im tired of reading T&C, so i figured i could ask for help in case some of you guys know some other casino that works like Thrills or Videoslots, but accepts most european countries too.

    I really love what videoslots is doing, their simple bonus terms and reel races that actually look interesting and are winnable by people who dont/cant buy 40 rebuys (sorry red), but sadly im not allowed to join there, so hopefully another global casino decides to copy some of their ideas :D :cool:
     
  12. May 19, 2016
  13. brianmon

    brianmon Meister Member webby mm4

    Location:
    uk
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  14. May 19, 2016
  15. mina1929

    mina1929 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Food Catering
    Location:
    World
    What about Guts they're great Casino with no wagering on free spins and have good bonuses, is your country allowed to sign with them?

    Or just keep trying Rizk I do love that Casino :)
     
  16. May 19, 2016
  17. theapple

    theapple IR hates apples

    Occupation:
    i work... slave labor sort of work. like most of u
    Location:
    far far away
    jeez and i thought i had it bad :eek: i also play on casumo for a few weeks now, only made a few deposits though (obviously i tried most of well received casinos :p) and im just a lowly white belt there. I actually like the place but leveling rewards so far were just a couple of normal free spins on a few slots (like literally 2 or 3 free spins, maybe twice in my 14 levels?). And they also come with 30x wagering so yeah, but they are one of my first choice casinos when it comes to no bonus play, because of huge amount of games and im a sucker for achievements :eek:

    reminder to myself: stop leveling on sundays on casumo :mad:
     
  18. May 19, 2016
  19. theapple

    theapple IR hates apples

    Occupation:
    i work... slave labor sort of work. like most of u
    Location:
    far far away
    i dont play at guts anymore, ever since they obviously decided to put all their focus on like 8 countries alltogether and everyone else is excluded from most new promotions, i dont even bother checking guts site anymore :/

    Even if they still have decent match bonuses (which i think are for everyone, not really sure though) i dont really feel like playing at a casino where i feel like 2nd class citizen, knowing how whenever a good promo comes around, i wont be able to join.

    But yeah prior to my break guts just opened and they opened with a bang :p It was really awesome and refreshing casino, their xmas event was awesome, but now ... now not so much though, i just checked their last promo (3 years thing) and there were like 10 countries that were allowed to take a part in their bday celebration ... which is a bit sad but oh well, cest la vie :) I just hope once Rizk starts doing some big promos, they dont go same route :oops:
     
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  20. May 20, 2016
  21. brianmon

    brianmon Meister Member webby mm4

    Location:
    uk
    Well, don't build your hopes up too much at Casumo. Unlike sites like Videoslots, 'acheivements' aren't worth anything at Casumo.

    I got the full set of trophies for CFTBL, and got nothing. When I asked CS, I was told that "Trophies are just there for you to admire" :mad:
     
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  22. May 20, 2016
  23. RichyJ75

    RichyJ75 Silly Member PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Dogsbody and personal servant to my kids
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    I joined up with Matchbook several weeks back (saw a winners screenshot from Nicola and thought I would give them a try). Overall not bad and 3 times now I have logged in and found £10 in the bonus balance section. At first I was expecting huge WR, but after just a handful of spins the bonus balance gets moved to a cash balance after what feels to be 1x or 2x WR? Was rather impressed by this.

    May be worthwhile reading T&C's (I normally fail to read all of it as I don't usually take a bonus when depositing, only accept freebies outside of deposits!) to see what the exact WR or max cashout is as it honestly feels to be not a lot.



    EDIT

    Just checked re bonus funds and they state 40x WR, so no idea what funds were applied as a freeby to my account with minimal WR!!
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2016
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  24. May 20, 2016
  25. mina1929

    mina1929 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Food Catering
    Location:
    World
    This is the funniest thing I heard, Trophies there to admire :lolup: This is not Facebook playing Candy Crush where you can really admire trophies lol

    At least even give you 5 free spins :)
     
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  26. May 20, 2016
  27. mina1929

    mina1929 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Food Catering
    Location:
    World
    They just like you, that's all :)
     
  28. May 20, 2016
  29. theapple

    theapple IR hates apples

    Occupation:
    i work... slave labor sort of work. like most of u
    Location:
    far far away
    ah i heard about that one from a friend, he usually uses it for sports betting but im pretty sure they do send a few free spins to random people every now and then, and they have like no wagering or 1x wagering, or something really low :p

    might give it a shot, but i was actually checking it out last week and i gave up on it because its SUB terms were like super confusing. This part anyways, im sure its a typo but you cant really be sure in anything these days :)

    The maximum available amount of Bonus Funds is £/€/$200, for which you must stake £/€/$200 on your FIRST bet on MB Casino. The minimum bonus you will receive is £/€/$5.


    so yeah, unless its a typo, im not really going to deposit $30 or so, and bet $30 on one gonzo spin :eek2::D:D

    edit: just to clarify things a bit, im not really looking to add more casinos to my list because since coming back i already registered at like 10 or so, and its been only like a month :p

    I already registered at Rizk, Trada, RoyalPanda, Casumo, Drueckglueck, one CasinoRewards casino which i had a decent first experience with, and probably a few more i already forgot about (some MG casinos), so im sure there will be a couple of decent offers each week, and if not i can always play with no bonus if i really feel like playing that day.
    What i was looking for is something where ill be playing most of my time. Sites where i could see myself playing for next few months at least, like some of you do at Videoslots or Thrills, and sites that sometimes offer more than just a few random spins, with 30x+ wagering, on $20-$50 deposit :p

    Not saying any of above mentioned sites is bad per se, they are all awesome on their own actually but most are missing that little something extra (either have huge wagering on FS which, obviously im not a fan of), or have no reel races at all... or have reel races that award free spins with 30x + wagering (my ultimate nightmare?). Ill probably play at some of those places (a bit of my slots time at each of those casinos i suppose :p) until some new Videoslots-like casino pops up.

    As i already mentioned, im not a highroller, and i play mostly for fun so getting a decent play time is important for me. Sure cashing out is a nice bonus, and i actually only started cashing out smaller amounts now, after coming back, prior to my break id rarely cashout $300 from $30 deposit, and now i realize how big of a mistake that was. I was more of a go big or go home, and i think how 99% of my sessions were ... home ones :p

    Regardless, i found Trada verification guys to be the most awesome of the bunch though, my verification took literally 5 mins at like 1 or 2 AM (was getting ready to watch NBA game so i know it was late :p) and at some point i mentioned i dont really like Starburst so for all i care they can keep my newbie free spins because i despise the damn thing (seriously, how can anyone like starburst is beyond me :?) - when i woke up next morning i noticed they changed it to some other game. Which was a huge plus in my eyes, even if they come with big wagering attached to it, i havent had such an amazing newbie experience in a casino ever before, so yeah a huge kudos to Trada.
     
  30. May 20, 2016
  31. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Senior Member CAG mm1

    Occupation:
    job is OK
    Location:
    Balcony
    Betspin - no WR on FS winnings

    But you have to work hard to get some FS from them. :rolleyes:

    I never asked or got any except when depositing on Thursdays with their Double Deal (steal from Guts). And those never paid anything worth mentioning that was lasting more than 2 minutes on DOA.
     
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  32. May 20, 2016
  33. Captain Rizk

    Captain Rizk Accredited Casino Representative

    Occupation:
    Bullshit battling Superhero
    Location:
    Malta
    The idea is that you level up quickly so that you get rewards really frequently and now you can stack your free spins and speak to support to have them changed to Super Spins if you wish...

    Alternatively, do like Jory and turn 10 Free Spins on Starburst into £1000+ with no wagering, no game restriction, no max cash out and no bullshit.

    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42826&page=358&p=760146#post760146

    Up to you!!
     
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  34. May 20, 2016
  35. Scatterse

    Scatterse Banned User PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Webbmaster
    Location:
    London
    In most casinos freespin offers are totally worthless. Either it says in the fine print (of course they won't announce it in their flashy ad graphics) you can only withdraw €100 (would be a terrible experience if you won say €1000) or they do their best to find an excuse not to pay you, which has happened to me and that's why I STAY AWAY from casinos that say you are not allowed to share IP with anyone else, because that is almost impossible not to happen the way IP works and it more or less always gives them a "legit" reason to f*** you over: "oh, sorry we can see here there's another account that has had the same IP as you 2 years ago, not allowed", BANG! account closed in a second, cash confiscated.

    Best thing is to stick to the few casinos you trust.
     
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  36. May 20, 2016
  37. theapple

    theapple IR hates apples

    Occupation:
    i work... slave labor sort of work. like most of u
    Location:
    far far away
    Now thats super nice feature :oops: I wish it was there from get go, because 5-10 FS is something most lowrollers get per their session (sometimes just 5 :p) and unless a freak hit like above happens, you wont get too much out of it.

    But credits when its due though, that wheel and leveling rewards got all that much better with removal of black skull + now this, i just wish it was like that when i just started playing because my 20 odd levels got wasted on 5 FS (70% of the time), race tickets :(, and superwheel skull at lvl 20. I did get one $5 cash reward though, which was awesome :p

    also, not sure if you noticed my other question (might not even be in same post :p) where i asked if there are any plans to add some lowroller friendly races, or reel races in general (like videoslots, and now casumo is doing, well just without casumo wagering on rewards :p). Some race that doesnt last for a week would be nice. As it is right now, weekly races (which are just a wagering contest) just make me not to want to play there until its over, because realistically i have zero chances to get into top... anything, and getting 10p reward tickets from the wheel when im like 900 points behind is really not something... rewarding. Basically it really feels like my leveling reward was wasted :/

    But yeah, thats a damn nice run from 10FS! But you also missed the part where he said he has been freespinning starburst for years and hasnt won anything by doing so before :) Now, im not saying its impossible to get a win that way, its just not very likely its going to happen, hence why most sites chose Starburst as their game of choice for free spins. Mind you, i also got like $18 out of 20 normal starburst spins not long ago, but it was on a site that has 30x or so wagering on FS :eek:

    getting 5-10 normal spins is cool and all that, but in reality its like starting out with 50c-$1 bankroll, that has to be used on starburst and that just doesnt inspire much confidence :D:notworthy

    and once again, being able to change normal spins to super ones is awesome. So keep up the good work guys and please never stop improving! Yeah you are already awesome but you can never be too awesome! Or can you :oops:
     
  38. May 20, 2016
  39. theapple

    theapple IR hates apples

    Occupation:
    i work... slave labor sort of work. like most of u
    Location:
    far far away
    oh yeah i also played there too :D Made a few deposits, never got too far though and i never took their thursday offer because free spins are cut into pieces. You get them over the course of 3 days, or something like that which im not really a huge fan of, and not to mention i usually forget about my 2nd, 3rd and all following days free spins :p
     
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