CASINO770?

[SlotsWizard]

I find it extremely hard to believe that these guys are serving up truly random numbers. Has anyone looked at their Deuces Wild game?

Well I did... I had to create a new analyzer to process it, but it returns just over 150% with perfect play - assuming randomly-dealt cards, of course.

Even if they offered the regular Deuces Wild structure (where the starting hand is Three of a Kind instead of Two Pair), their paytable would still pay back 142%. There's no way this game can be fair and random with the paytable they are using.

There were other things I encountered in other video poker games that just didn't add up either. Rather than rehash it all, my review of "Fast CPU" software is

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for anyone who's interested.

And here's a piece of advice for gaming software developers - if you're going to write software that cheats, you should make the free-play mode act normal so people won't know that something sinister is going on until after depositing. This is the second time I've caught a software provider cheating in free mode... you guys are making it way too easy.

 

[jas2587]

not that I can or would play here
but he keeps posting thta USA cant play an this is 1 reason

General Health & Financial Warning: Gambling involves risk. By gambling on any real money website, you run the risk that you may lose money or suffer psychologicial injuries. You gamble at your own risk.

How can we get suffer psychologicial injuries???


Good luck Cindy

 

[NASHVEGAS]

How can we get suffer psychologicial injuries???

:machinegu:yahoo:

 

[jas2587]

Sorry



Cindy

 

[JM-Partouche]

Hello SlotsWizard,

Well i assure you i wasnt insulting your intelligence not trying to get your angry and would like to apologize.

For the Fun game, indeed you can play for fun without setting up an account - which is perfectly standard and normal, it totally helps you testing the Casino

As for your software, i am really sorry i never heard of it before, truely believe you are famous in the casino world and i believe the analysis you have will be very interesting ! But sadly its very hard for ones to be technical and marketing.. hope you understand this

As again for the randomness, etc, i will be in touch with TST Global as i will send your report (on your website) to some more technical people , since this is even better than a username here

Best Regards

Jean Marc

 

[JM-Partouche]

Hi Rusty,

Really doing my best.

As for the software, your report that i put between [] in the quote, will be indeed sent to more a technical level (design i can believe there), and you can really feel free to send me more feedback on the following points :

"It seems they do not have set reels and each symbol is generated (who knows how) and they certainly do not have the feel of proper slots"

And i quite understand here your reason why you might not deposit nor play - and hope this situation will be reviewed at some point in the future.

Best Regards

Jean Marc

Thanks JM,

I received an email explaining that I had received a free chip to the value of 20 for casino770 which was generous as the promotion was for only 10.
So a good way to playtest the slots in real money mode without risk.

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The software is very sloppy with no consistency between the interfaces used in the slot layouts.
It is difficult to see just how much you are staking at times and the payline diagram obscures the reels as they spin
It seems they do not have set reels and each symbol is generated (who knows how) and they certainly do not have the feel of proper slots
In the lobby I could not see anyway easy way to check my balance and I had to load up a slot before I realised I had credit.
It does feel like this software has been tacked tied and taped together and I would not dream of depositing to play the slots there.
]

JM_Partouche has been very responsive to most of the issues raised here so I can not say that Casino770 is rogue but for such a large operation their software is quite amateurish and as Lojo and Uungy have pointed out there are still some very serious issues that need to addressed

 

[JM-Partouche]

Hi Uungy

Thank you very much - feel free post what the company will reply to you.
As for the others testing in progress, whenever i get more information on how long will be the process, and having some results about it - i will indeed post it in that thread.

As for the LGA, to be honnest with you i dont really know since the operator was in touch with them.

Best Regards

Jean Marc

Just recieved an email back from LGA
This doesnt resolve this at all, in fact cofuses it alot.

LGA are a very reputable licensee, I have used them in the past, and they really do have powers over their licensed companies, however this only really seems to be for the financial side, ie refusal of payments etc. They resolved my dispute extremely well (in my case I got the money within 24 hours of them saying I was in the right, which I think is what they have to do), however when it comes to testing I think they rely on third parties, which doesnt really put much credit on the software.

I have sent them a follow up query requesting the company who tested the software, and will post the follow up

 

[JM-Partouche]

Hi Ugaboga !

Thank you for your note about the software, be sure this will be sent to a higher level.

Best Regards,

Jean Marc

I am always intrigued by French operations, being a francophile and all So I decided to download Casino770, being a French operation.

The software is an absolutely disgrace, the GUI (user interface), is a culimation of copies from Playtech and Microgaming. The slots also use similar game and audio themes. Even the layout of the slots are extremely similar to those of MG.

It's quite a sad state for a French company to use non-inspiring software like that which is being utilised by Casino770. The French have always been leaders in innovation and technology. I can confirm this by looking at my collection of Citron's! When I look at my Citron Desse, I am reminded of just how unique and innovative the French are! (not to mention how inspiring their designs are!)

I'm sure Patrouche can do better!

 

[JM-Partouche]

Hi Slotswizard,

First of all, as i told you in my last reply to you - i wasnt aware of your software, and from what i see in your result, this is fantastic - so first of all sorry for my ignorance on your knowledge, and i am really sorry if you felt i insulted your intelligence, i was more having a lot of ignorance on all this technical and randomness concepts - well done for the software

Can i send your report to the fast cpu developper team - since to me sadly as you understood, i can use half french commercial words, trying to do my best on technical issue (companies to test), work on week ends but when it comes to something more technical, i succeed to give anger even to the nicest person.

Best Regards

Jean Marc

I find it extremely hard to believe that these guys are serving up truly random numbers. Has anyone looked at their Deuces Wild game?

Well I did... I had to create a new analyzer to process it, but it returns just over 150% with perfect play - assuming randomly-dealt cards, of course.

Even if they offered the regular Deuces Wild structure (where the starting hand is Three of a Kind instead of Two Pair), their paytable would still pay back 142%. There's no way this game can be fair and random with the paytable they are using.

There were other things I encountered in other video poker games that just didn't add up either. Rather than rehash it all, my review of "Fast CPU" software is

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

for anyone who's interested.

And here's a piece of advice for gaming software developers - if you're going to write software that cheats, you should make the free-play mode act normal so people won't know that something sinister is going on until after depositing. This is the second time I've caught a software provider cheating in free mode... you guys are making it way too easy.

 

[JM-Partouche]

Hi Jas !

Well mainly im just cut/pasting from the website, as for the health and financial warning.. as you know the financial warning is obvious

as for the health warning, well i will just cut/paste from the english version of adictel.com :

GAMBLING, VIDEO GAMES, CYBER ADDICTION, COMPULSIVE BUYING, ALCOHOLISM, DRUGS, DISORDERS RELATED TO EATING PATTERNS

[...]

Don't feel lonely anymore; don't feel ashamed of your problem! All the people here are in the same situation as you are and would like to share their experiences with you!

Also i will cut/paste wikipedia :

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Pathological gambling is now defined as persistent and recurrent maladaptive gambling behavior meeting at least five of the following criteria, as long as these behaviors are not better explained by a manic episode :

[...]

--

I do believe peronally, non-related to what written on the website, that if not under control, your gambling can lead to psychological injuries (preoccupation, tolerance, withdrawal, escape, chasing, lying, stealing, loss of control, illegal acts, risked relationship, bailout)

I hope this helps

Best Regards,

Jean Marc

not that I can or would play here
but he keeps posting thta USA cant play an this is 1 reason

General Health & Financial Warning: Gambling involves risk. By gambling on any real money website, you run the risk that you may lose money or suffer psychologicial injuries. You gamble at your own risk.

How can we get suffer psychologicial injuries???


Good luck Cindy

 

[JM-Partouche]

Oops to reply clearly about the main reason US players cannot play, i believe its legal/political reasons - the point is they cannot play on Casino770

hope again this helps

Best Regards

Jean Marc

Hi Jas !

Well mainly im just cut/pasting from the website, as for the health and financial warning.. as you know the financial warning is obvious

as for the health warning, well i will just cut/paste from the english version of adictel.com :

GAMBLING, VIDEO GAMES, CYBER ADDICTION, COMPULSIVE BUYING, ALCOHOLISM, DRUGS, DISORDERS RELATED TO EATING PATTERNS

[...]

Don't feel lonely anymore; don't feel ashamed of your problem! All the people here are in the same situation as you are and would like to share their experiences with you!

Also i will cut/paste wikipedia :

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

Pathological gambling is now defined as persistent and recurrent maladaptive gambling behavior meeting at least five of the following criteria, as long as these behaviors are not better explained by a manic episode :

[...]

--

I do believe peronally, non-related to what written on the website, that if not under control, your gambling can lead to psychological injuries (preoccupation, tolerance, withdrawal, escape, chasing, lying, stealing, loss of control, illegal acts, risked relationship, bailout)

I hope this helps

Best Regards,

Jean Marc

 

[lojo]

Considering the earlier implications or questions, I really don't think my statements in my first post and questions in the second were at all out of line. But if they don't warrant a response, so be it. I'll just assume that I totally misunderstood, or that somehow the issue was answered to other reader's satisfaction and I somehow missed it.

 

[SlotsWizard]

Considering the earlier implications or questions, I really don't think my statements in my first post and questions in the second were at all out of line. But if they don't warrant a response, so be it. I'll just assume that I totally misunderstood, or that somehow the issue was answered to other reader's satisfaction and I somehow missed it.

I don't know if this helps, but I don't think that even the most deeply-addicted gambler in the world would ever make more than one deposit at this place.

 

[vinylweatherman]

150%

It's the 150% Deuces Wild that could settle this (do they cheat or not).

It is NOT a matter of collecting a big enough sample of plays, it is a mathematical calculation based on the paytable.

If the Wizard of Odds also comes up with 150% for that paytable, then the game is a "cheat", ie, not randomly dealt cards, but a slot/lottery game that displays the result as a poker game.
This may have worked in the French market, but try that in the greater community and it will not work, and eventually the bad reputation will filter back to the captive French market.

Incidentally, I was under the impression that online casinos were supposed to be illegal in France The remark about the affiliate possibly facing jail if the French authorities found out what he was up to seems to support this.

Lastly, if the slots use cycles, they are "Fruit Machines", and Casino770 had better beware the ex "Fruitie players" over here who will come along to empty their slots

 

[uungy]

Just an interesting update here, Casino Riva dont seem to be mentioned on the LGA website anymore

 

[TDTAT]

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AFFILIATES AND PLAYERS BE WARNED:

STAY FAR FAR AWAY from Casino770.

 

[uungy]

Very intresting post! Can you elaborate what you mean by "powerful"?

This whole thread has never said their software is fake etc, but only until some "fair and honest" check has been done and they have a reasonable licenese I would keep away.

Having a license removed is just as bad as saying they are something to keep away from.

Nothing illegal has been said here, neither is your post. Let them threaten to take you to court, if they have refused ayment, and you have posted that, with all the reasons they have supplied you with, I cannot see anything wrong or anything that they can do in a court of law (I am not qualified, but from my knowledge)

Companies often threaten customers with lawsuits, however they know there is no chance they will even do it, as it would cost them too much, and in this case would lose. They usually use it to quieten down and scare individuals who know too much, and are threatening their illegal activities.

Post tilll your hearts content, as long as all details are correct and fair, and I would be surprised if they could even do anything.

 

[TDTAT]

Very intresting post! Can you elaborate what you mean by "powerful"?

I do not care to elaborate much except to say look at
the gambling laws in France. Affiliates can go to jail, but
770 can advertise. Look at the other casino names too.

 

[uungy]

Do you mean it is illegal to be an affiliate but owning a casino is legal ?

what do you mean "look at other casino names"?

 

[TDTAT]

Sorry uungy.. just forget I said anything. I am sure
I could be mistaken about everything I have ever said about 770 OR Partouche.
I am going to go back and edit my posts just to be safe.

 

[LuckyPlayer]

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AFFILIATES AND PLAYERS BE WARNED:

STAY FAR FAR AWAY from Casino770.

KEEP AWAY for sure - they DO NOT PAY YOUR WINNINGS - If you are lucky and WIN...

 

[uungy]

You can put Casino Riva in the same boat. Besdies, they are not regulated (or rather, they are regulated, but by LGA, so as good as unregulated)

 

[LuckyPlayer]

I've finally received my money after 25 days waiting, just on time for Xmas!

 

[DEV]

so much confusion surrounding this casino. Err on the safe side. I keep getting emails from them every few days with 500% bonuses. Avoid!

Bonuses maybe mouthwatering (hardly) but its a long shot. I would rather not loose a sure $100.

 

[marioking24]

Hey all,

I have played there with a little bit 50Eur deposit. Cashed out 254Eur...
everything is just fine with them!
I have a good contact to the customer support...

I have not been payed yet, but I will let you know, when I get the money and how long it took!

Greetings,
Mario