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Casino operators - Increase your Roulette profit!

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by KasinoKing, Jul 19, 2005.

    Jul 19, 2005
  1. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Time to bring up one of my bugbears about online casinos again!

    Im calling on all casino operators to dramatically reduce your minimum chip size on Roulette.
    I havent got exact facts & figures, but Im pretty sure most MGs & Crypto's for example have Blackjack and other card games from as little as $1 or $2 per hand. And yet they all seem to have $1 minimum chips on Roulette! This is just crazy. When people play Roulette they dont just put one or two chips on the table they place multiple bets. My own preferred patterns require an absolute minimum of 9 chips but as a low-roller there is no way I am going to start playing at $9 a spin!
    Im sure there are many thousands of players who share this same view.

    If I ran an online casino I would want 10c or maybe even 5c chips to get as many people as possible to play what is undoubtedly one of the most famous & popular casino games there is!
    With a very nice house edge of at least 2.7% Id be rolling in dosh in no time. ;)

    So I urge casino all operators to make this change this is 100% certain to increase your profit from Roulette.
    Those that do, please PM me, and Ill tell you where to send the 25% of increased profit you make as my commission for suggesting this brilliant idea!
    (25% might sound steep, but dont worry youd get it all back again via the roulette wheel! :D )

    PS: For those others sharing my boat Virgin Games offer Roulette with 10p chips! :thumbsup:
     
  2. Jul 19, 2005
  3. why0why

    why0why Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Computers
    Location:
    USA
    KK,

    Global player does 10C bets. They also have the fastest software because you can assign hotkeys. They also have the highest max bets.
     
  4. Jul 19, 2005
  5. global

    global Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Online Casino Manager
    Location:
    Antigua
    Hi KasinoKing,

    we at Global-Player offer a table limit as low as 5 Cent on Single Zero Roulette and 10 Cent for American, French and Single Zero Roulette. Further information about our You must register/login in order to see the link. .

    French Roulette is played with the la partage rule that means that if you bet on any of Red/Black, Even/Odd and Low (1-18)/High (19-36) and the Zero comes up you lose only half your bet.
     
  6. Jul 19, 2005
  7. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Brilliant! :thumbsup:
    I bet you get proportionally more roulette income than those other short-sighted operators!
    I could well be signing up with you soon! :cool:
     
  8. Jul 19, 2005
  9. universexf6

    universexf6 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Harakiri
    Location:
    A Country Called Full Of Geld
    I would like to hear about Playtechs... A casino which is not famous here but
    a good casino powered by this software is currently offering from 10C bets on
    Roulette and I presume it will not be so difficult to find such casinos that accomodate this kind of mini betting roulette. If somebody knows about other Playtechs, I am really grateful to hear your information.
     
  10. Jul 19, 2005
  11. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Well I took a look at Global - and found the most confusing bonus terms I have EVER seen! (And I've read 100's of casinos T&C's!).

    Can someone please explain this in plain English for me? :confused:
    Does this somehow convert into wager X times your deposit, then you can withdraw everything, including the bonus?
    If so, what is 'X'?
    Help! :what:
     
  12. Jul 19, 2005
  13. Macgyver

    Macgyver Dormant account PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    North Carolina
    My Excel sheet states that it's 25x the bonus for a wagering requirement (or X) if you're playing blackjack (that 2% listed), but it may be outdated.

    Deposit $30, get $30 bonus. Bet $10 (for example), 20 cents of that bet comes from the bonus. Therefore, you'd have to bet $50 to have bet $1 of the bonus or $1500 to bet $30 (or the whole bonus). $1500 divided by $30 bonus = 50X the bonus actually, so I guess I need to update that Excel file.

    Mind you, the above was all based on 2% for blackjack, and we all know how much you love blackjack, KK. ;)
     
  14. Jul 19, 2005
  15. global

    global Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Online Casino Manager
    Location:
    Antigua
    :) I will try: Global-Player does not have wagering requirements. The bonus awarded by Global Player Casino is similar to non-negotiable chips that you can obtain in land-based casinos. You cannot change these chips into cash, however, you can play with them just as with normal chips and all winnings can be cashed out in the normal manner.

    If you log into the Webcashier you may see at the top Your current Cash and your Bonus Balance. Your cash balance is withdrawable anytime.
     
  16. Jul 20, 2005
  17. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    You'll try???
    Blimey, it's your casino - if you don't know what chance do the rest of us have?? :D
    I don't know nuffin about "non-negotiable chips that you can obtain in land-based casinos", having never been fortunate enough to have been given any (not even in Vegas :( )
    macgyver's answer (if correct) means;

    Single Zero Roulette 2.5 % = x40 WR
    American Roulette . 5.0 % = x20 WR
    Blackjack . . . . . . . . 2.0 % = x50 WR
    Slot Machines . . . . 5.0 % = x20 WR
    Video Poker . . . . . . 2.0 % = x50 WR

    That makes much more sense - and seems fair enough! :thumbsup:
     
  18. Jul 20, 2005
  19. pstnpstn

    pstnpstn Dormant account

    Occupation:
    computer
    Location:
    Seoul
    let me make it easier.

    for example, player have cash $10, bonus $10 (total $20 chips).
    and he plays American Roulette.

    1. bet on red $10 and ball coming out red ;
    player wins $10 => cash $20, bonus $10 (total $30 chips).

    2. bet on black $10 and ball coming out red;
    player loses $10 => cash $10.5, bonus $9.5 (total $20 chips).

    3. bet on even $10 and ball coming out even;
    player wins $10 => cash $20.5, bonus $9.5 (total $30 chips).

    4. bet on odd $10 and ball coming out even;
    player loses $10 => cash $11, bonus $9 (total $20 chips).

    player can cashout cash balance at any time.
    but remained bonus will be forfeited.
    player can't cashout bonus balance forever.

    now you understand what American Roulette 5.0 % means ?


     
  20. Jul 21, 2005
  21. jamiester

    jamiester Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Overnight dispatcher
    Location:
    Hampshire County, MA
    as I understand it...

    There are no wagering requirements. If you played thru 50X on BJ but didn't have enough losing bets, the remaining bonus would still be removed. If I am thinking of this correctly (and there is a good chance I am not) your bonus would only be eliminated from your account when you had 50 losing hands at level betting, no matter how many winning hands you had. If you keep winning, you will always have to pay back the bonus no matter how much you gamble.
    Maybe the above figures would represent an "mean effective WR" meaning that on average, a person would have lost the entire bonus after X level of playthrough (though somehow I think it would be higher (double?) than the numbers above).
    One thing I do know: it IS confusing :what:
     
  22. Jul 21, 2005
  23. fathead

    fathead Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    USA
    It looks to be a "lose only" bonus which can never be withdrawn. It gives you more betting power during play but you either lose the bonus betting or you lose the bonus when you withdraw your money. It never really has any cash value other than giving you additional dollars to wager with.
     
  24. Jul 21, 2005
  25. tim5ny

    tim5ny Quit Gambling

    What is so complicated? They give you a fifty dollar bonus.. you cannot cashout fifty or less. Anything you make above fifty is yours. If you end up with a thousand dollars after playing.. you can cash in $950.00. Simplest and best bonus method I've ever heard of. You use their money for leverage, but you have to give it back.
     
  26. Jul 21, 2005
  27. jamiester

    jamiester Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Overnight dispatcher
    Location:
    Hampshire County, MA
    they don't always take the whole bonus

    If you lose the bonus during play (remember the bonus is not the last money bet: it is a portion of each bet) you can cash out the full amount. The trick, for black jack at least, I think, is to have at least as many losing bets as 50X the bonus, no matter how many winning hands you have. I could be confused, but I am pretty convinced that it is NOT simply and always the case that they remove the entire bonus upon cashout.
     
  28. Jul 21, 2005
  29. pstnpstn

    pstnpstn Dormant account

    Occupation:
    computer
    Location:
    Seoul
    if you did not sign up this casino,
    then catch their casino meister signup bonus.

    make $30 deposit and get $50 bonus.
    go all in one hand or one spin with $80.

    if you lose, you just lose $30 (your deposit).
    if you win, you win $80 and cashout $110.

    Is not good ?
     
  30. Jul 21, 2005
  31. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    That's probably the best idea yet!

    To be honest, I'm still not 100% clear on how this bonus works, but on the other hand, it is so small anyway, that I really don't give a toss!
    If I sign up, it would only be to play roulette - chances are I will either make loads of profit, or blow the lot! :D
     

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