vinylweatherman
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Nick "Casino Club" ("Location: Malta"?) was contacted several times, last time on 11th December 2008 at 02:21 PM - but never answered, not even in this thread, there page 2 from 18th September 2008, 12:21 AM.
In addition, as said, the Casino Club customer service was contacted many times, but all they came up with were proven lies in emails and (hung up) telephone conversations.
Thanks for asking - good luck to all!
I have just looked back at the referenced threads and the trail leads me to believe that somewhere along the way the letters GVC have lead to some serious confusion and indeed misdirection.
In the SPAM case, any combination of "Gold VIP Club" with an offer of a $2400 bonus has come from one of the "black-hat" spammers EMPLOYED by this rogue casino group.
Grand Virtual Casino have been mistakenly related to this outfit, and it seems that Gaming VC inadvertantly thought the complaints related to them.
The Gold Vip Club Casino INTEND this confusion, they want to produce as much spam as possible, and want as much of it as possible to get through - this is why they keep switching names and producing fake casino names, and fake landing pages.
It does now seem that you, Ilana, are either getting swept up in this confusion, or are "sexing up" your findings in order to make a smallish issue look like a great big conspiracy (mass changes - Spearmaster can only find minor changes to around a dozen pages it seems). "Link1" simply seems to be a parked page for some purpose, although you allege that this was one changed to hide incriminating evidence.
the Casino Club customer service was contacted many times, but all they came up with were proven lies in emails and (hung up) telephone conversations.
I have been chastised by Spearmaster for taking these, and other findings, at face value, and extending an opinion based on them.
Perhaps the hung-up conversations are because you do not come across as a player with a player related issue, but a now known "troublemaker", and in this way you could concievably concoct "proof" by counting up how many phone conversations were hung up. What is not known is WHY they were hung up, although recording, if made, would help.
The only thing proven from the emails is that they appear as being from a source in Israel, but this does not PROVE they were SENT from Israel, but merely that they were ROUTED by a server there.
What is needed is concrete PROOF, and example of being told that you are being dealt with from Malta, and at the same time being able to PROVE you were being dealt with by a person physically present in Israel.
This would not do any harm to a casino group at all, and I am surprised this, in itself, is such an issue. It seems far bigger issues are being discussed, but the thread you referenced regarding VIP, and qualifying or not, upon review, is stuffed with fraudulent casinomeister accounts, and this lends itself to conjecture (your turn now), that your "hijack" at the end of that thread, and your subsequent "crusade" on this "Israel or Malta" issue, that you were one of those players who found themselves "jilted" at the VIP altar, and blame the move from Webdollar support to in-house support for it, and are now simply trying to make something of what will probably turn out to be a minor issue when we review this thread in a few months time.
In general, having operations "in-house" leads to a BETTER experience for the player, not a worse one, although some teething problems can be expected in the first weeks of the move.
While it is only a change in how SUPPORT is managed, since players only contact with a casino IS support, a change of management of support is more or less seen as a change of management of the casino as a whole. The overall ownership has not changed.
The Jackpot Factory have their support in Israel, Tel Aviv (I recall asking once, and they told me - no problem), yet this does not seem to be a problem at all for players there, they seem more concerned about payouts to US, the issues surrounding the pull out of MGS from the US.