Casino City and Ecogra

[caruso]

they actually have big banners for Crystal Palace meaning CC advertises for CP

FWIW, I think you'll find all those banners are gone - compare my screenshot on page 1, fourth post down, to the one I posted on page 7, second post down: all those left sides are currently blank.

 

[Casinomeister]

Bryan...

The debate in this thread has been HEALTHY for this forum and for the online casino industry as a whole. It has brought to light numerous issues which need to be addressed by casinos, portals and players.

Caruso and Jetset will never see eye to eye on various issues.

But both parties are extremely well informed.
Both parties have certain vested interests.
Neither party has been overly abusive.
The debate has been EXTREMELY entertaining.

As forum moderator, I hope you will be extremely tolerant of free speech even if your views are diametrically opposed to that of Caruso.

Winneronline stepped over the line when they censored Caruso, and I encourge you not to follow in thier footsteps.

Although I have read personal attacks from BOTH parties, the converation from BOTH parties contains a lot of substance.

The debate between Jetset and Caruso has not turned into a flame war YET.
Bryan -- I encourage you to tolerate the free and open exchange of ideas and information.

True, but I need to make something clear hear to everyone: I view this forum not as a soap box in the town's square - but as a conversation going on in my living room (it's a big living room by the way). When the converstion turns sour, then those conversationists need to take it elsewhere. No one wants to hear this crap and it's a waste of band space. We shouldn't have to weed through the "baggage" to get to the meat.

This is not a "free speech" issue. This is a common courtesy and common sense issue.

Caruso: it was my ball that I took away, not yours. I used your statement as an example - but I expect everyone to cool it.

 

[Casino City]

Since there is speculation about Crystal Palace and Casino City here, I want to be clear about the past and current status of Crystal Palace on our site. First of all, much as I wish this were not true given what I now realize, we have run banners for Crystal Palace on our site in the past, and yes, even as recently as when this discussion began. We did, however, take them down a few days ago once we realized there was an issue, and there should not be any on our site now. I'm not aware of our having or having had such relationships with any other such casinos.

Just so you know, I had ages ago established a rule to be followed by our sales and marketing department, which was not to accept as advertisers casinos that were on the casinomeister list of rogue or not recommended casinos. I've always respected the work Bryan has done here trying to weed out bad casinos, and figured there was no way with our focus that I could even come close to doing as good a job on that front as what he was doing. I made the assumption that would prevent us from working with the really bad apples without trying to sort through all of the forums. Insofar as I can see, however, Crystal Palace casino is not listed on the casinomeister site under either of these categories. I do see there is a note on the top of the page about them, but I can also understand how this could have been missed by our staff given that they tended to look at the lists of casinos rather than the explanatory material at the top of the page. Just to be clear, the page I am referring to is: www.casinomeister.com/rogue/index.html.

 

[chucho]

Since there is speculation about Crystal Palace and Casino City here, I want to be clear about the past and current status of Crystal Palace on our site. First of all, much as I wish this were not true given what I now realize, we have run banners for Crystal Palace on our site in the past, and yes, even as recently as when this discussion began. We did, however, take them down a few days ago once we realized there was an issue, and there should not be any on our site now. I'm not aware of our having or having had such relationships with any other such casinos.

Just so you know, I had ages ago established a rule to be followed by our sales and marketing department, which was not to accept as advertisers casinos that were on the casinomeister list of rogue or not recommended casinos. I've always respected the work Bryan has done here trying to weed out bad casinos, and figured there was no way with our focus that I could even come close to doing as good a job on that front as what he was doing. I made the assumption that would prevent us from working with the really bad apples without trying to sort through all of the forums. Insofar as I can see, however, Crystal Palace casino is not listed on the casinomeister site under either of these categories. I do see there is a note on the top of the page about them, but I can also understand how this could have been missed by our staff given that they tended to look at the lists of casinos rather than the explanatory material at the top of the page. Just to be clear, the page I am referring to is: www.casinomeister.com/rogue/index.html.

That seem strange to me that Crystal Palace is not on the Rogue list here much less the Not Recomened list seeing as the 1st link on the Evil Casino page starts with "Why are you emailing me? Deal with RTG, you prick. Warren Cloud at Crystal Palace" not to mention that Crystal Palace is one of the worst casinos out there?

 

[Casinomeister]

That seem strange to me that Crystal Palace is not on the Rogue list here much less the Not Recomened list seeing as the 1st link on the Evil Casino page starts with "Why are you emailing me? Deal with RTG, you prick. Warren Cloud at Crystal Palace" not to mention that Crystal Palace is one of the worst casinos out there?

It's listed here.
https://www.casinomeister.com/rogue-casinos/
The link in the main section was mislaid somewhere. But all of the other related casinos are listed there.

As for being the "worst" casino out there, I'm not sure I would consider this so. There are far more worse ones out there, but this is also a matter of perspective.

Simply, I would not recommend playing at these casinos with bonuses - since the operator has a history of closing accounts of players that use bonuses. Sure, Warren and I have had some heated discussions (the heatedness coming from his end - I usually maintain my cool) in the past, but we have an open dialogue and speak to each other in a professional manner every few weeks over the phone. When player complaints come in for his group of casinos - they are resolved rather quickly.

 

[amandajm]

As everyone seems to have finished for now, i will take it upon myself to ask Mr Corfman a question here, as it is nion related and he prolly checks here.

Mr Corfman.

What are your thoughts about the TGTR please?

Anything remotely related would be interesting for me to hear.

Much obliged, J.