Casino check bounced...

[Addisyn]

My first withdrawal check I received on 1/29/2007 from Crazy Vegas bounced. It was the Salt Lake City bank that refused to honor it. I just got off the phone with my bank and they told me the bank refused to pay the funds. This doesn't bode well in my opinion.

I contacted Crazy Vegas and they had reissued a check on 1/24/2007. My concern is US banks aren't going to allow these checks to be paid. I also was charged a $7.00 fee for the check not clearing.

This has all gone to hell! I think it is really time for me to stop since Neteller has $960.00 of my money which I may or may not receive. Plus I have $2200.00 in withdrawals from various casinos pending from mid January.

What are your thoughts? Has the fat lady finally started singing?

 

[mgibson99]

My first withdrawal check I received on 1/29/2007 from Crazy Vegas bounced. It was the Salt Lake City bank that refused to honor it. I just got off the phone with my bank and they told me the bank refused to pay the funds. This doesn't bode well in my opinion.

I contacted Crazy Vegas and they had reissued a check on 1/24/2007. My concern is US banks aren't going to allow these checks to be paid. I also was charged a $7.00 fee for the check not clearing.

This has all gone to hell! I think it is really time for me to stop since Neteller has $960.00 of my money which I may or may not receive. Plus I have $2200.00 in withdrawals from various casinos pending from mid January.

What are your thoughts? Has the fat lady finally started singing?

The short answer....yes, the fat lady has sung. I don't think it is an issue of whether the casinos will pay you, but rather how they will pay you. You have over $3000 tied up. I only hope you don't need that money in the short term. You may get it, and you should get it, and hopefully you will get it, but who knows when.

 

[Mousey]

My first withdrawal check I received on 1/29/2007 from Crazy Vegas bounced. It was the Salt Lake City bank that refused to honor it. I just got off the phone with my bank and they told me the bank refused to pay the funds. This doesn't bode well in my opinion.
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This has all gone to hell! I think it is really time for me to stop since Neteller has $960.00 of my money which I may or may not receive. Plus I have $2200.00 in withdrawals from various casinos pending from mid January.

What are your thoughts? Has the fat lady finally started singing?

I thought I heard her warming up ....

Here's what happened to 'lost' NETeller transactions (from today's NETeller press release):

Additionally, the Group has been advised that the USAO has obtained court-ordered seizure warrants seizing funds pertaining to the Groups transactions. To the best of the Groups knowledge, it believes that the amount of funds seized by the USAO or otherwise restricted by third parties does not exceed US$ 55 million. These funds were largely in the process of being transferred from the Group to its US customers or vice versa.

Processors have been locking out US transactions left and right (probably why your check bounced) and is the reason casinos are having difficulty paying out withdrawals to US players (who are lucky enough to find a way to deposit).

It is one unholy mess.

 

[Addisyn]

I had emailed Crazy Vegas asking to be reimbursed for the $7.00 fee I incurred from the check not paying. As I had stated in my prior post their CS told me last night on the telephone a check had been reissued on 1/24/2007.

Today I received an email from them.

Dear ,

Thank you for your email.

Please note that we are now unable to pay US players to any other method, but their bank account.

The information we require for your withdrawal to be processed to your account is as follows:

Account Type: Savings or Checking
Account holder:
Bank account number:
Bank name:
Bank address:
Routing Number:

We hope this meets with your approval.

Regards,

Lex,
The Support Team
Vegas Partner Lounge

So I guess a bank wire is the only method left? I emailed them back asking what fee they would charge for the bank wire since I have incurred $7.00 already and my bank charges $10.00 for receiving a bank wire.

They immediately answered me they will not charge a fee for this service so I will give kudos where they are due. Thank you Vegas Partner Lounge for helping out US players stuck between a rock and a hard place. I only have to assume their CS got it wrong about the check being reissued and will leave it at that.

 

[Mousey]

Glad they're being helpful, Addisyn. Let us know how this goes.

Good luck!

 

[EasyRhino]

Addi, I have a hunch that withdrawal method is ACH (direct deposit). Not a wire transfer, just based off the account information they ask for.

 

[Slugo]

I got a call from Triedent Lounge yesterday.
The CS gal told me that the check I got from them will not be hounored by the issueing bank. I told her that I had already deposited the check. She said it will not clear. They will be putting the $500 back into my account and I will have to do a ACH withdraw.

So now do I ACH to my bank account or to my NEtspend card? Any thoughts would be welcome.

I'll also let ya know haw this unfolds.

Good luck
Slugo

 

[winbig]

I got a call from Triedent Lounge yesterday.
The CS gal told me that the check I got from them will not be hounored by the issueing bank. I told her that I had already deposited the check. She said it will not clear. They will be putting the $500 back into my account and I will have to do a ACH withdraw.

So now do I ACH to my bank account or to my NEtspend card? Any thoughts would be welcome.

I'll also let ya know haw this unfolds.

Good luck
Slugo

I would advise sending it to your Netspend card. You will need to call them to get the account & routing numbers, then pass those along to Trident. If you decide to use your bank, you can find these numbers on the bottom of any check.

PS: Some banks charge for incoming ACH transfers, and some don't. I know for a fact that Netspend does not charge for ACH deposits.

 

[Addisyn]

The routing number for an international transaction must be obtained from your bank. Since it is an international transaction it is different from the one on your checks.

Also, the routing number is different for an internet transfer. I pay my credit card bill online direct from my bank account and I had to get that routing number from my bank as well.

Just to be safe do call your bank and make sure you have the proper routing number.

 

[Slugo]

I was kinda thinking netspend as well. the Routing and account #'s are available online. from my account menu.

I havn't heard from Trident as of yet and My bank account doesn't show the check as being returned either. Darn it not fingers crossed smilie.

good luck

Slugo

 

[Slugo]

I havn't heard from Trident as of yet and My bank account doesn't show the check as being returned either. Darn it no fingers crossed smilie.

good luck

Slugo

I guess I should have double checked my bank account. it is $500 returned paper. and a $5 processing fee. D@#n IT!

Good luck
Slugo

 

[Addisyn]

Who the hell do these banks think they are! It really pisses me off they are complying with the Feds on this one. That is our money!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Benjamin Franklin said it best.

The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. Benjamin Franklin

 

[footdr]

THE CASINOS BANK PROBABLY REFUSED TO PAY ON CHECK TO U.S.

I was wondering if there are any international banks that have branches in the u.s. I received a check from Jackpot Factory last year that came from a Las Vegas Bank(that was the address on the check). Could be they had a Bank Account in the U.S.

The only way they can identify these checks is by manually investigating a check the looks suspicious because it has the casinos name on it or is for a large amount and drawn on a foriegn bank. U.S. banks have already said there is no way to identify if a check or ACH transaction is relating to gaming. The only system presently established is for Credit Cards and wire transfers because the type of business is coded (or something to that effect)And businesses accepting and refunding to credit cards have individual idenifying numbers for their business.

Therefore, I would think the reason it was returned was because the bank that the check was drawn on refused payment. That would make sence since one of the casinos was advising players that the check they sent would not clear. THEY WERE PROBABLY INFORMED BY THE BANK THAT THEY WOULD NOT PAY ON THE CHECKS THEY(the casino group) ISSUED TO THE U.S.

 

[lojo]

Nope. In my fiasco 'funds' were confirmed by US issuing bank, per account number on check. There was money "as of this time".
I also saw nothing weird in the lobby when I informed my bank the next day that the check would be no good. But I could have missed a little tug on the ear, or tap on the temple that one girl, with that particular perfume... mmm she could distract me, I suppose...

edit: if the check or bank were on a hotlist or whatever, i would have seen it on the phone or in the bank? The casino? they done good, I just didn't get mine, bully for anyone who has! I put my play back in action and had a BALL! Throwing like it was 'their' money.

What more could a guy ask for? 426 (brutal) $4 throws on one machine? yip plenty lower and tons higher, but I had a ball!!! No bankroll now, but not because of that.. I went for one progressive, hell or high water...and got both!

 

[Slugo]

Therefore, I would think the reason it was returned was because the bank that the check was drawn on refused payment. That would make sence since one of the casinos was advising players that the check they sent would not clear. THEY WERE PROBABLY INFORMED BY THE BANK THAT THEY WOULD NOT PAY ON THE CHECKS THEY(the casino group) ISSUED TO THE U.S.

That is just the way Trident explained it to me..Their bank would not honour the check.

And here for you to think about.

While I was looking at my account stuff at Trident the Original withdraw I had made via Neteller is listed under Payment Type as "Confiscated"!

Good Luck
Slugo

 

[lojo]

I might have misread footdr's post. Sorry. When my check bounces it will be because the issuing bank refuses to pay it. As I mentioned, I confirmed with the issuing bank that there was money in the account.

 

[Slugo]

Addisyn,

I just got the check back that bounced. I'm guessing that it is the same bank you had. it is from Salt Lake City...I don't know if I should say the name.

Good luck

Slugo

 

[winbig]

Addisyn,

I just got the check back that bounced. I'm guessing that it is the same bank you had. it is from Salt Lake City...I don't know if I should say the name.

Good luck

Slugo

Why not? If the bank is named, other players will know that the check won't be honored as soon as they get it, instead of having to pay fees for a returned check.

 

[Slugo]

Yea..why not...Maybe some bad pub. will help.

Say hummmm... can we PAB a bank?
heheheeheh

The bank is "Bank of the West" ,Salt Lake City, Utah.

Good Luck
Slugo

 

[Addisyn]

Yup that was the bank. I actually received the check back the other day. Maybe I will frame it for posterity. The beginning of the end of our freedom to throw away our own money without the Federal government's approval!

Oh thank you Big Brother for saving me from myself! (dripping with sarcasm)

 

[lojo]

Yip. Mine hasn't been returned to my bank yet. Wonder if it was 'confiscated'.

 

[shyspirit]

My check also bounced. I have to say they've been bending over backwards I feel to fix things. When *if* things ever cool down I know for sure I've got a trusted casino with this group...thats a big solace. Last night I got a call from them saying they'd found another way, ACH transfer, and if emailed or faxed my banking info they'd deposit the funds. I do honestly trust these people, what I don't trust or feel good about is the middle part between them and me. I was wondering if I should open another bank acct just for this and left my primary acct safe would be better (or more confusing)?
My husband suggested I ask if could just keep the monies in my casino acct with hope they'll sort things out with the US law soon. The withdrawal money would be nice but my life isn't depending on it. So I did ask and they say I can email to ask to have withdrawal reversed. But you know, if I've got money in there to play with am gonna play! Opinions?

 

[REOdeathwagon]

Having an account exclusively for online gaming is the way to go shyspirit. If possibly there is a problem, it is much easier to track down this way. And it won't affect your main household account and bill payments w/ possible bounced checks. It is also a way to keep track of your gaming, so you know for sure, if it is possibly getting out of control, or time to mellow out on gaming a little bit?

 

[Slugo]

I got this today after sending them my info.



Thank you for your email and banking details. We forwarded them to our Accounts department and have been advised that your ACH withdrawal will go for processing today. Please note that ACH refunds may now take up to 21 days to show in your bank account.
We apologize for this delay and Thank You for your patience.

21 days? that seems kinda long or is it CYA time frame.

good luck
Slugo

 

[shyspirit]

Under normal conditions 21 days seems astronomical. I don't know about these days.

I feel it isn't their fault, and they're trying to do all they can to make good on what they owe players. And I believe frustration levels are high all around.
And I think patience is wearing thin.
It makes it hard to know what to do, since alot can change in 3 weeks.
Am beginning to think maybe I'll push to have my withdrawal reversed.
At least I'll know where the money is sitting for 3 weeks.
And I gotta think *knowing* something now is a good thing.