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Casino Broceliande - B3WGROUP ( DO NOT PLAY!)

Discussion in 'Online Casino and Poker Complaints - old section' started by Lukas85, Jul 8, 2004.

    Jul 8, 2004
  1. Lukas85

    Lukas85 Dormant account

    I deposited 200$ at this casino recieved the 200$ bonus and played JoB at 5$ a bet. I lost it all within 130 hands! (thats a loss of 400$ in 650$ of wagering!!!) I didnt hit ONE straight or better; all I got from 130 bets were some JoBs, 2pairs and 3of a kinds.

    To me this is more than suspicious- could someone calculate the probability of that event?

    Regards

    Lukas
     
  2. Jul 8, 2004
  3. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Mathematician by day, online gambler by night.
    Location:
    UK
    Assuming full pay JoB with optimal strategy, the probability of a straight or better is 0.03625. The probability of not hitting a straight or better in 130 is (1-0.03625)^130=0.08226, or about 1 in 120, which could be just bad luck. Straights or better contribute about 30% of your expected return, so this does not explain all your loss. Can you count how many 3 OAK, 2 pairs and JoB you got? I could run a chi square test to get a better idea about the deviation from the expected frequencies.
     
  4. Jul 8, 2004
  5. Lukas85

    Lukas85 Dormant account

    thank you very much for your help. Ive just sent an email to the casino requesting my game history (the software doesnt state any)

    Who else has played there or at other casinos using the same software? What were your results?
     
  6. May 13, 2005
  7. furrykef

    furrykef Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Programmer
    Location:
    Oklahoma City
    Well, I'll tell you my results. My results are that this casino is definitely cheating. This is easily demonstrable even on the play money games. Here's a letter I sent to The Wizard of Odds. He has yet to respond, but I only sent it yesterday. It contains hard proof and you can do the test yourself.

    Don't anybody even think about playing here, ever.
     
  8. May 13, 2005
  9. kfellmy

    kfellmy Dormant account

    I cashed out at Aero Player with a profit. haven't played the other two.
     
  10. May 13, 2005
  11. furrykef

    furrykef Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Programmer
    Location:
    Oklahoma City
    Doesn't really mean anything. I was pulling off a nice profit at the play money game where I did my test even though it was obviously rigged.
     
  12. May 14, 2005
  13. jonevegas

    jonevegas Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Compulsive Gambler
    Location:
    Gods Country Canada
    Aero,Monte,Broc,and Yachting all the same, definetley not random, play their slots and you will see for yourself, I kept logs on these places but lost my hardrive and did not back it up.
     
  14. May 15, 2005
  15. mary

    mary Dormant account

    Stay away from these guys. They ripped off Microgaming's graphics for their slot machines. Not a good sign.
     
  16. May 15, 2005
  17. furrykef

    furrykef Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Programmer
    Location:
    Oklahoma City
    Which B3W slot machines stole graphics from which Microgaming slot machines?
     
  18. May 16, 2005
  19. JohnGalt

    JohnGalt Dormant account

    Location:
    iugljk
    I had always assumed their video poker machines were actually slots. Certainly play that way.
     
  20. May 16, 2005
  21. jonevegas

    jonevegas Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Compulsive Gambler
    Location:
    Gods Country Canada
    Has anybody played at any of these places, won and have been paid in a timely manner?
     
  22. May 16, 2005
  23. UKDafoe

    UKDafoe Dormant account

    Location:
    US/UK
    Yes, although the blackjack play seemed suspect.
     
  24. May 17, 2005
  25. furrykef

    furrykef Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Programmer
    Location:
    Oklahoma City
    The play money blackjack game has been corrected. I think it matches the real money game now (which turned out to always have been normal, it seems), although I noticed a "surrender" option that was added that was not there before. I don't know if it was added to the real money game because I ended up busting out (due to aggressive betting on my part, not unfair play).

    I have not checked out the video poker yet. You're not the only one to have said that the video poker plays more like slots.

    - Kef
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2005
  26. May 17, 2005
  27. jonevegas

    jonevegas Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Compulsive Gambler
    Location:
    Gods Country Canada
    I have played their new 9 line bonus spin slots and they seem fair to me but does the casino pay.(aero,monte)
     

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