Casino Affiliate Warning!!!

lots0

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If you're a Casino Affiliate stay away from 400Affiliates program, in my opinion it is a total joke and a ripoff.

If your a player, I suggest you stay away, because if they will cheat a business partner they will cheat a player.

Over one thousand dollars in revenue last month with these guys and they send me $150... What a joke.

Oh ya they are certified by that affiliate program... you know the Casino Affiliate outfit that certifies any casino that pays them...
 

lots0

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I should also note that 400affiliates did state that they were paying 40% of revenue, I just don't know how $150 works out to be 40% of $1000...
 

lots0

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No Response at all.

I also sent them a note several weeks ago asking about the 'Fees' they charge affiliates. Again No response.

There was a $62.50 fee (not a chargeback) showing on my account and for the life of me I can't figure out how I owe the 400affiliate program a $62.50 fee.


Just a note to the casino affiliates out there...

This is a great example of why I run tests on all the new affiliate programs I start. This program had some great hype from some high profile webmasters when it launched... but the proof is in the pudding, so to speak.... Don't ever commit to a program till you KNOW they are honest...

Oh ya, I did start to get a bad feeling about these guys when it took over 2900 legit hits before I had a single conversion.
 

Rakesh

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Hi Guys,

My name is Rakesh, I have taken over as Affiliate Manager as of the 1st of Jan 2007. I was previously the manager of Adriches and more recently Casino Profit Share. Justin, the previous Affiliate Manager of 400Affiliates has moved on and is no longer with the organisation.

I generally do see most of the support issues relating to affiliate queries, but with the amount of development and launches we have this month, I don't read them all, and do let the support staff handle them.

If you are unhappy with any communication you have received from 400Affiliates - for whatever reason, please feel free to forward the onto me and I will address it personally.

Regards
Rakesh
 

Rakesh

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Hi lots0

Correct me if I am wrong, but we pay affiliates 50% revshare for the first 2 months (60 days) that a player is with us, and then after that they earn the affiliate between 25%-35% revshare, tiered.

The player sent was 2-3 months old, and earned 25% revshare.

The break down is below.

Wagered Revenue: $924
Promotions : $324
Wagering profit: $600
25% of $600 = $150

As for the fees, they were not passed on. I haven't looked too deeply into what it was for - but at the end of the day, they were not passed on.

Please let me know if you have any questions, and please feel free to add me to any of the chats you may have, easier and faster to talk over the chats.

Cheers
Regards
Rakesh
 

bonustreak

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I think your statement is too harsh about 400, they have been top notch to affiliates since the start up, there have been a few bumps in the road but they have worked close with the affiliates and made changes.
This group has listened to us and they respect us as their partners, perhaps maybe try a bit harder to contact your affiliate manager next time and do a bit more research before calling a program out like this again.

Cheers!
 

lots0

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The player sent was 2-3 months old, and earned 25% revshare.

Really...

Just how did the first and only player I get at your casino become an "old" account??? (Note: the time between the deposits and losses was only one month.)

and how did $1000 in deposits and player losses become $150 rev share, even at 25%?

I understand your trying to protect your company... but posting out right lies... come on...

Rakesh, just tell the truth... you are shorting me because I stopped promoting your casinos because of bad conversions.

I stopped sending you traffic and you don't want to send me all my money, cut and dried...

This group has listened to us and they respect us as their partners, perhaps maybe try a bit harder to contact your affiliate manager next time and do a bit more research before calling a program out like this again.
Gee thanks for the sales pitch... Maybe next time you should try to get ALL the facts before you spout off... :mad:
 

winbig

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Really...

Just how did the first and only player I get at your casino become an "old" account??? (Note: the time between the deposits and losses was only one month.)

and how did $1000 in deposits and player losses become $150 rev share, even at 25%?

So the numbers they quoted weren't correct then? Were bonuses taken?
 

vinylweatherman

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Stats

The problem may lie in the stats available in the affiliate account management software (misinterpretation, lack of clarity in figures).

The age of the player may relate to when they signed up, and not the time of the first deposit. The wagering loss in the stats ($1000) looks like it was gross loss, including bonuses, whereas the scheme pays out on net losses.

The remaining issue is whether the payment should have been 50% or 25%, and would depend on whether the first 2 months is counted from sign-up or from first activity in the account.

If there is a problem with support, it should be looked at to see what has gone wrong, as it has lead to a derogatory thread that may have been avoided if support had better handled the initial query.
I'm afraid many of us tend to expect poor service from the online casino industry, and when things start going wrong patience is lacking, as often patience does not pay - only aggressive complaining seems to get results.

I do at least now know where Rakesh went after leaving Casino Profitshare, which was the affiliate scheme behind the initial 5 Casino Action casinos before they took over Phoenician and Nostalgia from Adriches.
 

lots0

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As far as I am concerned there is nothing to settle here.
I don't expect or want to get any money out of this.
I posted a warning to other affiliates based on my experience.
I did not post expecting to recoop my losses.

You can take my word or not.... totally up to each of you.
 
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