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Casino Accountability

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by lojo, Aug 3, 2007.

    Aug 3, 2007
  1. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    I have noticed a tremendous downturn in my slot returns over the last six months. Indeed I'm now an average player i.e. loser!

    There have been scads of threads and mentions of low paybacks. Anyone have a clue?

    Some say all casinos turned up the house edge since the uigea

    Some say MG is fixed in win lose cycles

    Some say RTG casinos can adjust play after someone wins a random jackpot.

    I tend to think I'm just a loser:thumbsup:

    This is no offense to our gracious host but there should be a group higher than accredited, it should be accounted and verified.

    Don't get me wrong. i would totally trust the Meister to administer this on a small scale as opposed to the regulatory agencies currently working and proposed. All we need is trust.
    (who can sort the regulations? Spear and I have argued nitpicks of nevada law on forum that lawyers would be loathe to argue)

    I'm afraid gaming is possibly going from bad to worse for US players. You think the rogue cowboytown casinos are bad? Wait until the 'bonafide' special interests control all online gambling here. You won't have any one to bitch to and probably not a pot to piss in if you play. And if Bryan tries to assert, he will be 'rogued'.

    Pisser, in't it.

    What do I want to see?

    Observable, repeatable, and verifiable audits of casinos.
     
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  2. Aug 4, 2007
  3. jan.strydom

    jan.strydom Dormant account

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    Online Marketing Specialist
    Location:
    India - Costa Rica - Tel Aviv - South Africa - Ukr
    accountability

    not sure the casinos turned the key as i have been around for awhile and payouts are very much the same - in fact i thought the payouts are higher.

    sorry i think you're a little short on luck:eek2:

    I also believe that all big online groups would gladly adhere to regulation!!!
     
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  4. Aug 4, 2007
  5. kakata

    kakata Banned User - hyper flamming PABnonaccred PABnoaccred PABaccred

    Occupation:
    sales
    Location:
    miami fl
    well hesnt the only one short on luck, same as some 20 more members...........could that be you are taking away from us all the available luck? :D
    @lojo
    at moment Im having better time at Bodog.....at least more playing time.:oops:
     
  6. Aug 4, 2007
  7. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    Indeed. I'm a little short on mojo. But even at your level of involvement, can you tell us, and assure us, that there is nothing funky?

    And if you could, why would we believe you?

    PWC was acceptable for a time, but when the PBLLLT hit the fan, where did they run? We have Shackleford, but not. We have the guy who followed him up but how many houses can he do? One ot two here so far, I think.

    Regulation is not the answer unless the regulators (anybody see the size of that chicken?) are accountable..

    Observable, verifyable and repeatable.
     
  8. Aug 4, 2007
  9. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    Good on ya Ka:thumbsup: I'd keep up the .2 and .4 bets on RTG for now (slots).
    I guess we can say almost anything we want and they'll have to eat it until they answer with audits.

    I've rolled ten $100 in a row tonight and only lost that, maybe 2000 rolls in all .2 to $100
     
  10. Aug 4, 2007
  11. phynqster

    phynqster Dormant account

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    From people I have talked too, every thing is the same, but far fewer players. Need to remember that if a slot is programed to hit every so often depending on how much has been played into it, and there is not much being bet into it, than the randomness is far less.
     
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  12. Aug 4, 2007
  13. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    Everything is the same, P. Nobody is producing audited returns for the player in real time (of RTG/MG) and the others can cough up anytime now. (I'll Give Rival about fifteen minutes because they've been around for a while and GV.. never mind.. and 3Dice a year at best)

    We need independant auditing, independant of governments or industry 'owings'. I think we are in the right place, I'm just saying.
     
  14. Aug 4, 2007
  15. jan.strydom

    jan.strydom Dormant account

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    ya - the regulation thing!!! i actually just said that the gaming companies are ok to be regulated - but not sure by whom - lol

    now most if not all slots today are all controlled by random generators which are completely sealed because if they were adjustable by the gaming software then certainly the slots could be hacked - now this would kill an on line house in ten minutes. so my point - they don't dare. luck is the key!! as I have over many years witnessed this streak - it surely comes and goes.:cool:
     
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  16. Aug 4, 2007
  17. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    Thank you Jan.

    I didn't mean to challenge you so on my first reply, please, enlighten us or add opinion. You will find me to be a wild card; I deal with important issues and I play lightly, no offense. I wish you a warm welcome here and thank you for jumping right into media rez.
     
  18. Aug 4, 2007
  19. jan.strydom

    jan.strydom Dormant account

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    India - Costa Rica - Tel Aviv - South Africa - Ukr
    :thumbsup: no problem - slots remain the game of choice no matter where with the progressives offering a real once off chance to make it big - now, it remains a game of entertainment and thrill but never a game of skill - lady luck as I see it.
     
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  20. Aug 4, 2007
  21. reda

    reda Senior Member PABnonaccred

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    i agree the rtg slots in my opinion has not paid the same in over a year for me. i have played pretty regular. i can barely get my account over a 100.00 after i dep about 50.00. and im working hard to hang in there. i may last a few hrs if im lucky. and im not a sore loser but after a while it does get old. maybe if i would stop playing after i win a few dollars and continue later i might could win more, but i cant seem to get ahead to really have bragging rights, my money will reach a tiny peak and then its downhill until im broke again. and youd think when your almost broke you might have a turnaround but usually it doesnt happen for me.
     
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  22. Aug 4, 2007
  23. kakata

    kakata Banned User - hyper flamming PABnonaccred PABnoaccred PABaccred

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    youd think when your almost broke you might have a turnaround but usually it doesnt happen for me.



    Neither for me............and I think for nobody does.
    Not at this moment on any RTG......IMO
     
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  24. Aug 4, 2007
  25. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    Damn Jan, you have away with words. I was a Madman (propaganda person) for seven years, yip:eek: marketer. But it was smalltime newspapers with no focus.

    Here we are on CasinoMeister and He or the denizens will have to douche me for asking the questions, and pushing the point.

    I'm honored you chose to get in the fray with me. You will find wonderful people here.

    What is your best idea for casino accountability?
     
  26. Aug 4, 2007
  27. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    I am still looking for an auditor to stand up.

    Bryan must know by now why I rendered this in the forum, rather than 'ask the casinomeister' it is because I didn't want to mount a direct challenge to him. I am directly challenging every platform to produce audited results. Period.
     
  28. Aug 4, 2007
  29. mikepipe

    mikepipe Dormant account

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    ok, thanks, but the question - coming up from another thread is: what is the average turnover of an average casino.
    we dont have an iidea, which wins really influuence the bottom line and which dont.
    Is 10 k much for an average casino???
     
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  30. Aug 4, 2007
  31. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    I just burned through 3300 on itty bitsy bets. The math is not our business if it can't be verified< MIke. I am throwing piss to the wind and something is up. If it ain't, let them prove it. Another 10k period, if the tide doesn't change I will quit gaming and spend my energy elsewhere.

    These are the days.

    You have been a dear friend here.
     
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  32. Aug 4, 2007
  33. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    And we are back to the point. Which casinos SUBMIT to what auditors and why. And why not. This is the crux, the nexus, the apex, the point.

    Fex the gumments, assert. THEY WILL ADAPT TO YOUR STANDARDS.

    I'm of the mind that there is far more going on behind the scenes than even the most paranoid could imagine.
     
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  34. Aug 4, 2007
  35. mikepipe

    mikepipe Dormant account

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    thanks lojo,

    lets find place and time to have some drinks and discuss thems, which have more importance.
    I am SURE , you are a very interesting person, to talk with.
    So - if yo come to meisterland (which is bavaria in germany), give me a hint.

    But:
    What about a members meeting - somewhere in the middle - Engerland or something like that?
    Wouldnt that be a great idea?
     
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  36. Aug 4, 2007
  37. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    That would be wonderful Mike. How about helsinki or brussels (my "friends" in barcelona said ' I didn't know there was a difference between friendship and business' as they scoured me) and I've only ever been burned by gmbh's in the us. Yeah, London sounds fine I can get there cheap, getting home is another story :)

    Now back on topic.

    edit: i would enjoy that beer or mead with you.
     
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  38. Aug 4, 2007
  39. mikepipe

    mikepipe Dormant account

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    what a PERFECT (steed style:)
    1000 th post

    i d like the beer please!:thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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