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Cash o lot Casino experience (Rival)

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by casinokoenig, Jun 12, 2014.

    Jun 12, 2014
  1. casinokoenig

    casinokoenig Experienced Member PABnononaccred3 PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    working for the NSA
    Location:
    neverland
    Well in short - it was a very bad experience , dry and boring slots , unbeatable WR - just a waste of money and time...

    i deposited around 700 € claiming multible bonuses.

    One was the 5000 % Bonus where i depoisted 250 € received 12500 € Bonus and the wagering requirements was 70xd+b(!!!) and max cashout was 0.25xBonus amount (3125 in my case).

    That means the wagering requirtements were 892500 € wich is just sick and the worst thing is the max bet on the slots is limited to 37,5 € some even only allow 20 € bets...


    Long story short - this was a super frustrating experience , also the slots are supertight and the WR requirements are unbeatable (that also applies to the other bonuses offered)


    Save your money and dont play there , personally im done with Rival Casinos since they all have the same huge Bonus mega huge WR jinx going on.

    Also the rule that you are not allowed to wager 20 % or more from the total WR on a single game is pretty silly since you dont have any way to track how much you ve wagered yet on a game (my winnings got voided once at another RIval casino because of that rule - that was Dendera Casino , also deposited over 1k € there and the only win i had got voided because of the 20 % rule...)


    Well i was dumb enough to try Rival again but now thats it for me - diagf rival casinos
     
  2. Jun 12, 2014
  3. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG MM

    Occupation:
    Breathing
    Location:
    Sweden
    Are you trying out every new casino there is, just to be able to warn us about them?:)

    This one I believe is Tropicas sister casino.

    I feel that nothing in your story is a reason for anyone to not play there.
    If you don't accept their rules, or if you don't like their promotions, if the games are cold for you...is your opinion.
    I don't think everyone have the same experience.

    They also have a rep here that actually care about their players, and are active, which also is the reason why I write this post.
    With no rep here I wouldn't have cared about any Rival ;)
     
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  4. Jun 12, 2014
  5. gagamel

    gagamel Professional smurf hunter MM

    Occupation:
    Care Manager
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Hello casinokoenig

    I play Casholot and Tropica for weeks now on a daily basis.

    I enjoy the Rival slots and searched for a long time to find a Rival casino I trust in.

    Dieter is the rep here and he is great. I PM`ed him maybe 15 times and the answer was always helpful and very prompt.

    Because of the WR. Some of them are definately not high, for example 50% booster with WR: 17x D+B.

    The good thing is, you can take the most promotions with every deposit you make, not just one time a week or month.

    And if you are loyal player you get free chips etc. pp.

    I will stay with Casholot and Tropica.

    But that is only my experience:):)

    PS: Because of the tight slots. I was never able to make so much Winner Screenshots since I play there :thumbsup:
     
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  6. Jun 12, 2014
  7. Refilliates Casinos

    Refilliates Casinos Dormant account webby

    Occupation:
    Refilliates Brands Casino Manager
    Location:
    Rival Powered
    Hi there casinokoenig,

    I am sorry to hear that you had a bad experience at our casino. Please PM your login and I will look into your account / game-play. I need to mention that we have 10 offers available to our customers (I can't post them here as we are not accredited), however I would appreciate it if you looked at what is in your cashier to see that we have some of the most respectable offers available.

    As for the 20% Rule, that is simply there to prevent bonus abuse from new players. We have applied the rule all of 4 times since inception. That said, I am doing a review of all our rules so that they are uniform across all the brands and the 20% Rule is on the list for review.

    Thank you Tirilej - appreciate your support here.

    All the best,
    Dieter
     
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  8. Jun 12, 2014
  9. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

    Occupation:
    International Money Launderer
    Location:
    the bus shelter, opposite GCHQ Benhall
    WHAT??? And you actually deposited there??? :eek: I am beyond words (for once.)
     
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  10. Jun 12, 2014
  11. Googobucs

    Googobucs Meister Member

    Occupation:
    IT Manager
    Location:
    Florida, USA
    The games could not have been too "dry & boring" since you kept depositing and playing. I really like the Rival games, but each to their own. Not everyone will like everything. You could have tried them in fun mode first to see if you liked the platform.

    They offer a variety of bonuses including some for 100% with a much lower WR and no max cash out. YOU chose the high % and high WR bonuses and accepted those terms.

    The 5000% bonus is fun to try if your looking for a long weekend of play time for a small deposit. The chances of making the WR are small, but it could happen. I've played this twice and played on it for several days each time. It was worth my $50 deposit in entertainment value IMO.

    When I play for real, I don't play with a bonus or take a small reasonable one.
     
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  12. Jun 12, 2014
  13. gagamel

    gagamel Professional smurf hunter MM

    Occupation:
    Care Manager
    Location:
    Switzerland
    The 5000% bonus is a all or nothing bonus. Or for people who want a long playtime and have not much money.

    50 with this bonus brings you 2500. If you play small bets you can play for 1 month for 50 . I don`t know another place where you can have such a long playtime with such a small deposit.
     
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  14. Jun 12, 2014
  15. rshkrn

    rshkrn Senior Member

    Occupation:
    unemployed
    Location:
    Asia
    Well you definitely wanted to give the whole thing a valid shot I think....maybe you just ran bad....would've probably stopped depositing after the first shot.....
     
  16. Jun 13, 2014
  17. Refilliates Casinos

    Refilliates Casinos Dormant account webby

    Occupation:
    Refilliates Brands Casino Manager
    Location:
    Rival Powered
    Quick update: Managed to track down the OP's account using some good old fashioned detective work and sent him a PM.

    He did have a really bad experience and we all know how that feels. Hopefully he will accept my offer to try the promotion again and this time have more luck :D

    Good night all.
    Dieter
     
  18. Jun 13, 2014
  19. Googobucs

    Googobucs Meister Member

    Occupation:
    IT Manager
    Location:
    Florida, USA
    Just to show you can actually win on these bonuses. I took the step 6 500% with a $50 deposit yesterday. It had a 50 D+B WR for $15,000, max cashout 3x bonus + deposit. (edit to clarify 3x bonus = $750 + deposit of $50 for total of $800. not 3X D+B for $900.)
    I played on it for 2 straight days and just cashed out $800 after clearing the WR.
    Here is a screen shot that helped put me over the top.
    Cash o lot Casino experience (Rival): casholot_061214.jpg,Jun 13, 2014
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2014
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  20. Jun 13, 2014
  21. Mosse

    Mosse Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    government
    Location:
    finnlandia
    Quick question for casino rep:

    Are finnish players welcome to your casinos and if we are, can we use your bonuses?

    Thank you!
     
  22. Jun 13, 2014
  23. Refilliates Casinos

    Refilliates Casinos Dormant account webby

    Occupation:
    Refilliates Brands Casino Manager
    Location:
    Rival Powered
    Hi there,

    As mentioned before: We have recently acquired 3 dormant brands from Rival and are in the process of setting up new websites and offers and terms for all 5 casinos. We have decided that the following countries will be allowed to use bonuses, however at a higher wagering requirement:

    Afghanistan, Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bangladesh, Bahrain, Bhutan, Bulgaria, China, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland Greece, Hungary, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, Pakistan, Poland, Qatar, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Uzbekistan, Yemen and Romania

    The wagering will be either 2x more or 4x more depending on the country. Finland is 2x more. The wagering will be displayed in the cashier for any promotion you take.

    We are in the process of setting up new offers to accommodate these changes, so for now, our old Rules apply.

    Thank you,
    Dieter
     
  24. Jun 13, 2014
  25. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG MM

    Occupation:
    Breathing
    Location:
    Sweden
    So us smart players from Sweden is still not allowed to use bonuses, or have I missed us been taking back again?
    I don't remember really but I know I closed my account for that simple reason.
    Yeah I know I personally could get bonuses anyway, but I defended my country :D
     
  26. Jun 13, 2014
  27. Refilliates Casinos

    Refilliates Casinos Dormant account webby

    Occupation:
    Refilliates Brands Casino Manager
    Location:
    Rival Powered
    Hi,

    My post lists the countries that will have higher wagering requirements. All other countries (Sweden included) will have standard wagering.

    (EDIT) The list above is the exception to the norm. I.e. if a country is listed there, higher wagering is applied. If not listed, regular wagering is applied.

    Regards,
    Dieter
     
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  28. Jun 13, 2014
  29. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG MM

    Occupation:
    Breathing
    Location:
    Sweden
    So we are back in? That was nice to hear :)
    Then I'll just have to think about if I can get over the other thing I was was angry about, and then I maybe will come back;)
     
  30. Jun 13, 2014
  31. Refilliates Casinos

    Refilliates Casinos Dormant account webby

    Occupation:
    Refilliates Brands Casino Manager
    Location:
    Rival Powered
    Hiya,

    As mentioned previously, we are still in the process of setting things up for the new brands and therefore we have not made any announcement/s to players. Old rules still apply for the next month or so while we prepare the new sites and offers.

    Regards,
    Dieter
     
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  32. Jun 13, 2014
  33. davos11

    davos11 Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    self employed
    Location:
    uk
    Can someone please explain to me why different countries have a higher playthorugh / wagering requirement ,

    It kinda just seems racist to me ... ,If it's because there is a higher number of fraudsters or abusive players from there then just don't allow them to play altogether ,Surely if Fraud is what your worried about then you don't want these guys playing and winning at all , And putting the wagering up higher does not stop this , It just lowers the chances of withdrawal but as they are not playing with there own cash i don't see how this would deter them !

    Instead it just punishes the average player which i'm sure makes up for the vast vast majority of us

    I really don't think this would be allowed in any other form of business , As it basically stereotyping and discrimination

    I am British so this has no impact on me but it always shocks me to say what casinos seem to get away with and sometimes more so how players seem to accept it or even defend it ,
    Again maybe because i'm British as here we have rules and regulations for everything , You cant breather for them

    This whole situation is like a guy in a bar who is a known alcoholic trying to get a drink ,The barman refuses to sell him one as he knows it will cause trouble then changes his mind and says "yes you can have one but it will cost you double or triple what everyone else is paying " , "Oh and all your friends have to pay triple to , Just incase "

    The guy gets drunk and smashes up the bar ( manages to get through the increased wagering requirements with his fraudulent card ,takes his winnings and runs " )

    So the casino loses , And all his friends that were with him ( that were not violent alchies ;) ) have all lost out to as they had to pay more for there night out due to association / Stereotyping

    The only guy that wins in this situation is the fraudster which is surely bad for everyone right ?

    So instead of a rule to protect against fraudsters , Isn't this more a ruling to make extra profit , For every 1 in say 5000 players that are fraudulent , perhaps 1000 players from the group of nations with increased playthrough have a 200% -400% less chance of making there wagering requirements .

    Would a fraudster with access to free money in the form of a stolen card really be wanting to take a bonus meaning he has to do wagering for hours on end , Or would he play straight up , get a quick win and run ?

    This kinda just seems like another underhanded tactic

    My advice is always to just leave bonuses well alone , I think the promotion system has got greedy and become abusive ,So much so that it is now a hindrance to play with a bonus ,

    I have stopped recently , And although my sessions are now shorter , the losing ones alot shorter ;) , I have also been making more withdrawals then i used to and i have been getting paid alot quicker without any worries that perhaps i had 1 spin on the wrong game, or i clicked max bet by accident and went over the allowed max stake only to have all my winning cancelled after hours of play
     
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  34. Jun 13, 2014
  35. vorcirion

    vorcirion Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    pokerplayer
    Location:
    Tampere
    It's always weird to see Finland in these lists since we really do like to gamble here and many casinos like finnish players. Guess they just decided to shove the whole eastern europe to their list of evil countries or whatever :p
    But it's their loss of course.
     
  36. Jun 13, 2014
  37. Captain Chaos

    Captain Chaos Senior Member webby

    Occupation:
    Train Guard
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    I'm sure that Goldenman slot has been in no way influenced by Ironman...
     
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  38. Jun 13, 2014
  39. casinokoenig

    casinokoenig Experienced Member PABnononaccred3 PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    working for the NSA
    Location:
    neverland
    well , i have to say i didnt expect anything positive happening after i post my experiences here , i just wanted to share my personal experiences with Rival Casinos over the last years and wanted to hear from others if anyone enjoys playing there..

    Well it could have been possibly a very cold streak or something but combined with my wininngs not paid at another Rival after finally managing to fullfill the WR requirements there - i might have been steaming a bit too much and i think its a very nice move from the rival rep to contact me and even offer to look into the "Dendera" issue and see if he can do something there - thats just an unexpected positive move.

    Still i d be interested whats the actual payout % in those Rivals offering those bonuses.
    And i dont mean the Slot payout percentage, i mean the Deposits/withdrawals ratio.

    Anyway , i was obviously steaming a bit when making my OP so...

    Have a nice weekend @ll :)
     
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