CAP Loyalty?

Webzcas

Winter is Coming!
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My Casino Forum has nearly 3000 members. I have an anti bot mod installed, but I would guess 95% of all registered members are bots that got past the anti bot mod.

I will be clearing that out in the coming weeks when the new design is incorporated.

On another note my politics forum which between the two databases used has over half a million posts, has just under 3400 members. Of which 1000 are active, but my active members are set longer than 60 days. I have it set to a year. So active members can be misleading and no one forum can be the same.

Fact it is easy to manipulate the number of members being displayed by vb. You don't even need a mod to do so, just go into mysql and edit the relevant field.

Posting activity in hand with quality of the posts is how I gauge the worth of a forum. Disregard everything else.
 

lots0

Banned User - troll posts - flaming
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Open Letter to former and current members of CAP.

Open Letter to former and current members of CAP.

First, let me ask your indulgence while I state a few things I believe.

(1)I do believe that most members of casinoaffilaiteprograms.com are good honest people.

(2)I do believe that the members of casinoaffilaiteprograms.com for the most part have been victims in this entire shit fest.

(3)I do believe that most CAP members have been horrified by what they have found out about the things that the management of casinoaffilaiteprograms.com has been involved in and the actions they have taken.

Ok, thats what I believe, now here is what I think.

I think bb1webs makes some very valid points. He and most of the other active members of CAP did not have any control or influence (other than their posts and personal interaction with Lou) in the business decisions of CAP.

Lets be honest here, CAP ended up as "Front" for some very shady activity in the online casino Business. What do you need to make a workable "Front" for any shady activity? You need some clueless(innocent) folks hanging around to make things look legit... Hence the majority of the 'real' membership of CAP.

There are many good people that put their trust in Lou and casinoaffilaiteprograms.com that were misled, those people have been betrayed in a very fundamental way. I think most of us here knows what it feels like to be betrayed by someone we trust...

CAP Members, remember you can make a difference... all you have to do is, vote with your feet, then don't forget to remove all the links on your site that point toward CAP.

In the future, before you sign up with another "Affiliate Advocate" type site make sure that they are in fact an Advocate for you and not just another Front.

If the "Affiliate Advocate" gets paid by the casinos to "Certify" them...
Or
If the "Affiliate Advocate" is running affiliate programs or a casino for anyone...

Use your brain, they are not an "Advocate" for you...
 

rowmare

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Location
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I appologize, BB1, it really wasn't my intention to offend you at all! My point was the number of posts by Dom and Lou. Perhaps posting that information was bad judgement on my part. I really didn't think showing facts readily available at CAP would upset anybody.

Now, you threw me a dig which I will respond to. I will remind you how I left CAP - this goes back 4-5 years. I grew uncomfortable with the certification at CAP, feeling it was fake. Because I was a moderator there, I felt that by being a 'part' of the organization, I may be seen as supporting it. Also, as time went by, the atmosphere at CAP became more as an affiliate program shill than an affiliate advocate. I mentioned that to Lou and got the first taste of his famous temper.

And then a couple of members got banned before my eyes because they spoke up about the fake certification. That is when I got a domain name, gamblingaffiliates.org and installed vbulletin. I figured what we needed was a community that really represented affiliates. I emailed a handful of people I knew and they joined me. Within a week of opening the forum, I Messaged Lou about it, feeling I should be on the up and up and not sneaking. Well, he was unhappy, to say the least. I got demoted at CAP (no biggy). It took me about a month to realize I didn't have pm capabilities at CAP and made a post asking why. THAT is when he threw another fit, accused me of using pm's to recroute for the new forum and so on. Banned me (and my daughters and anybody else who spoke up in my defense) and EDITED MY POST to make me look guilty of things he accused me of.

This man did what he could to destroy my name and my credibility. That is unforgivable. I value my integrity and my good name. You can buy people, but you can't buy credibility with any amount of money.

Also, To me it's one thing to make money advertising and be upfront about it. It's quite another to take money for advertising, call it certification and pretend to be an advocate for affiliates.

So, Steve (BB1) no, my posts at CAP would NOT be very high at all, even if I wasn't banned. I don't get behind unethical people. If I find myself in such a position, I remove myself and speak out about unethical practices...
 

NextToYou

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Europe
This seems like a reasonable figure, as my forum doesn't moderate registrations and the active user total at the bottom is roughly 2000 more than I'd expect.

You could easily stop bot registrations by updating to vBulletin 3.8.1 and activating "re-captha" registration (built in feature). Bots don't (yet) understand it.
 

Casinomeister

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You could easily stop bot registrations by updating to vBulletin 3.8.1 and activating "re-captha" registration (built in feature). Bots don't (yet) understand it.
The bots that I'm dealing with breeze right through Capchta. It doesn't stop them at all.

Any further bot discussions should be made into a new thread in the webmaster section. To include me, thanks!
 

rowmare

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Location
Vancouver Island
That's what I've found. Must be advanced bots.

Bryan, seeing as people are offended by the CAP stats I posted, would you please remove or edit that post?

(Edited -> Thanks Bryan. You're a doll. )
 
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NextToYou

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Europe
The bots that I'm dealing with breeze right through Capchta.

One more comment, move posts if you want.

YES, they breeze right through regular captcha, BUT try new re-captcha. I have used it now for a few months and not a single bot registration anymore. Of course this will change in the future but currently this is the situation. This advanced re-captcha is a built-in feature in vBulletin 3.8.0 and onwards.
 

GamTrak

Banned User - flamming - too anoyaing
PABaccred
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Denver, CO
Cap loyalty.

Dominique has been replaced:

THIS crap is how LIES get started! I've not replaced anyone and I'd appreciate if you would stop posting bogus information relating to me!

Apparently membership does have it's benefits...huh...:p
And what benefit would that be RobWin? What am I getting out of my membership except a target on my back from folks like you, mojo and others?

Just so you know, I'm NOT on the CAP payroll and GamTrak LLC pays for all of my financial needs just fine thank you very much! :thumbsup:
 

lots0

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THIS crap is how LIES get started! I've not replaced anyone and I'd appreciate if you would stop posting bogus information relating to me!
Don't you mean "RUMORS" instead of "lies"?

News for you - It does appear to the casual observer that you have have filled a vacuum at CAP. The fact that lou publicly handed over the CAP forum to you, where in the past he would have turned it over to Dom... Leads everyone to figure your the new top mod at cap.

If what everyone believes is really not the case, don't you think a simple statement would have been sufficient?


And what benefit would that be RobWin? What am I getting out of my membership except a target on my back from folks like you, mojo and others?

Just so you know, I'm NOT on the CAP payroll and GamTrak LLC pays for all of my financial needs just fine thank you very much! :thumbsup:
What target would that be?
I guess it is hard for people to believe that you would do a job that you seem to really hate and really not be suited to, for nothing.
Most people want money(or something else of value) when they do a job they hate.
 

dominique

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Guys, I just went and looked and I have not been removed, and my mod powers are fully intact.

I just have not been around and hence it makes sense to have someone else watch the board when Lou is not there.

Gamtrak and Bonusstreak have been mods there for some time.

Nothing has changed, other than that I am on a hiatus.
 

RobWin

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Guys, I just went and looked and I have not been removed, and my mod powers are fully intact.

I just have not been around and hence it makes sense to have someone else watch the board when Lou is not there.

Gamtrak and Bonusstreak have been mods there for some time.

Nothing has changed, other than that I am on a hiatus.

Dom, you have been well respected here at Casinomeister for years now and you still are IMHO, but if I were you I would seriously take the "Hiatus" time to reflect and really try and come to grips with who you have associated and aligned yourself with for years over there at CAP (meaning Lou & Warren) and step back and take a good hard look at some of the shady dealings that they have dealt this industry over the years. Hopefully being an observer you will be able to clearly see what a hell of a lot of the rest of us have seen and observed over the years there at CAP.
 

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