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CAP comeback

Discussion in 'Casino Industry Discussion' started by jetset, Dec 7, 2009.

    Dec 7, 2009
  1. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

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  2. Dec 7, 2009
  3. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Ahhhgh!! My eyeballs are now bleeding!! What a load of hyped up crap.
     
  4. Dec 7, 2009
  5. AussieDave

    AussieDave Dodgy whacko backstabber

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    Haha I was speaking with a well respected aff manager last week and the topic of CAP came up. I asked the candid question of how much traffic did you get from CAP? The answer was not much if any.

    Although I resigned as a private member of the GPWA, the GPWA is and has always been the industry pinnacle for gambling affiliate webmasters and affiliate programs.

    This press release IMHO is just hyped up baloney :D


    Cheers

    Dave
     
  6. Dec 7, 2009
  7. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    LOL yeah but to be fair, when did you ever see a press release for a deal that didn't put a positive on it :D
     
  8. Dec 7, 2009
  9. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    A positive twist is one thing - hyperbole is another.
     
  10. Dec 7, 2009
  11. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

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    Very true, but when you've followed the shenanigans at CAP the way many of us have a PR like this kind of stands out LOL :eek2:
     
  12. Dec 7, 2009
  13. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming

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    All this shows me is that.. the bad problems at CAP did not leave with the Professor... Which many of us suspected from the gitgo.
     
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  14. Dec 7, 2009
  15. greek39

    greek39 Dormant account webmeister

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    Okay forgive me I did get my old account reinstated. I figured the bad apple was gone what the heck. I still have reservations but am finding more senior members are returning.

    In the meantime I will exercise caution and hope for the best.

    greek39
     
  16. Dec 7, 2009
  17. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    That's the problem with the affy's - short term memory loss. And that is exactly what CAP is banking on - that in a couple of years from the great meltdown, all is forgotten...
     
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  18. Dec 7, 2009
  19. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

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    Pfffft - CAP is a message board and not the business entity that had the issues. Affiliate Media had these issues, They are resolved now, assets seperated out, lawsuits dropped and everything is off to a new start.

    I have done my best to keep the community at CAP seperated from all the stuff the parent company did, and CAP continues to be a nice and helpful community.

    That said, that press release does sound exaggerated, but then, that's what press releases tend to be.
     
  20. Dec 7, 2009
  21. greek39

    greek39 Dormant account webmeister

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    I did ask for forgiveness and maybe it was a mistake after all. I don't travel there often and maybe less now if at all. I figured without the big L around it would not spoil the rest.

    Giver a rethink...keeper quiet don't want anymore unnecessary press leaking out lol.

    greek39
     
  22. Dec 8, 2009
  23. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

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    I don't believe you can compartmentalise CAP and Affiliate Media and the management/ownership of both as conveniently as that, Dom. These were the same individuals, and one of them is still involved.

    Hopefully the unprofessional behaviour, attitude and monopolisitic inclinations that characterised the meltdown is now a thing of the past and Jolly has learned his lessons.

    Nevertheless, he has a steep hill to climb in regaining industry credibility in my opinion.
     
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  24. Dec 8, 2009
  25. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    So you are saying that the CAP message board is separate from the business entity? Sorry - I don't think many people would agree with this.

    Most of the melt down happened in CAP's forum anyway, so I don't see the reasoning behind your statement.
     
  26. Dec 8, 2009
  27. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

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    Actually, the melt down happened at PAP, another message board and one I have no presence in and never did. I may have 2 or 3 posts there from a long time ago.

    The CAP community has been managed solely by me since Lou left and I am not happy with things like private messages posted by me to the community being published elsewhere and labelled as statements by Affiliate Media.

    I do not speak for Affiliate Media and have no dealings with them other than asking tech support from there to do things like reinstate folks banned by previous management and whatever admin stuff. All my requests have always been implemented.

    CAP has a lot of newbies as members and it is very important to the industry and to players that new affiliates learn as much about the industry as fast as possible so they don't go around promoting places that screw everyone, including themselves.

    The messageboard has years of valuable, searchable resources and I decided it would be a shame to throw this out because someone in the parent company screwed up royally. If it were to be thrown out for that reason, the real damaged party would be the affiliates.

    As far as CAP is concerned, there will be no foul play of any sort or I am outta there.
     
  28. Dec 8, 2009
  29. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming!

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    Dom you do an admirable job at CAP and always have done. FWIW it would have completely sunk if you had jumped ship in January. Warren owes you big time just for keeping it afloat IMO.

    However, CAP has little to no chance in returning to it's past former glory. Even if affiliates as Bryan suggests have short term memories.
     
  30. Dec 8, 2009
  31. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

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    Obviously I could care less about the "glory", I just care about protecting an affiliate information resource.

    For instance, if you want to know about the history of what happened with Referspot transforming into Grand Prive, it's all there. Just as an example that has a current application.

    Killing CAP would be depriving us of an important source of research into history, and I am happy to volunteer some of my time to preserve it instead.

    Yeah, so, my stance here hasn't exactly been popular, but I gotta do what I believe in.
     
  32. Dec 8, 2009
  33. mojo

    mojo Dormant account

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    I supposed it depends on how you look at it.

    While some of the old info and archives are valuable, much of it is bogus. Posts were minipulated/edited. Posters were banned and humiliated. Posts deleted, changed, fabricated to suit the needs of the admins (mod staff exluded). Speaking for myself, threads at CAP are taken with a grain of salt. The last thing I saw at CAP about Grand Prive was a supposed meeting and stories about why that failed which we'll never know.

    When it comes to business partners, I believe affiliates memory will be long in this case, even if for nothing more than self-preservation. The trust is the single most difficult thing to earn and once it's gone... good luck.

    I'm with webz. The only thing CAP has going for it is Dom.
     
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  34. Dec 8, 2009
  35. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

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    The banning and post changing happened mostly at PAP, CAP bannings were less frequent and generally personally motivated and the one person who did these is not there anymore. Anyone who asks me is allowed back, and all requests to come back are channelled through me.

    Actually, what happened to the Grand Prive meeting is that it was scheduled in London. As we all know that conference was derailed big time with physical confrontations and the subsequent "peace meetings" interfered with the Grand Prive time schedule.

    So in the world of "woulda, shoulda, coulda" it stands to reason it woulda been resolved if everyone coulda behaved themselves over there the way they shoulda. But the world of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" is an imaginary world and any speculations are pointless.

    I have nothing else to say about Grand Prive at this time, but will soon.
     
  36. Dec 9, 2009
  37. bonustreak

    bonustreak Senior Member webmeister

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    I will step up here and say the whole time I was a active mod at CAP I was never asked to edit or fabricate anything ever. I know the place has issues and there are critics but to say that mods were forced into changing post and fabricate things is not right. The professor did some stupid things that we all know and needless bannings etc but I will stand up for myself on that false accusation against myself since everyone knows I was an active mod back in the day. Say whatever you want about the owners that is all on them but don't toss my rep into the pit please, all I did was support the affiliate community and offer my free time now and then to help mod.

    I also will agree with Dom on the GP issues the fact is that even I myself posted warnings from back in 07 posted that things were going down hill fast for the Referspot program. When Mark left that place back in the day it went to hell! They were doing shady cross marketing stunts and cutting out affiliates. I was screaming and yelling back then but none were listening, all them threads are there and all are true with no false info so they are of relevance still.
     
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  38. Dec 9, 2009
  39. mojo

    mojo Dormant account

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    Bonustreak, please re-read my post. No one is accusing the mods of anything. I specifically said mods excluded".



    Please don't put words in my mouth. I never did/said such a thing about you!
     

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