Question Can someone be this lucky on slots?

[Steviedoo]

Excuse me ? I can't believe what I am reading on this thread. We all understand that the odds are against the players. So, if someone by luck manage to win something, sure go on, ban them. If casinos employ such strategies, let me know, so I am not going to deposit anymore.

Certainly, it doesn't appear to be a "small" player, but even so, I don't understand the animosity towards a winner. Is Casinomeister a site for players or casino representatives and affiliates ? Netent even conformed that is nothing wrong with the game.

If you turn 20K to 30K with a stake of 200 is similar to winning 10 with the min stake 0.2. Many here did that repeatedly, I assume ?

As others mentioned, the casino can very well change the max allowed bet if they are not comfortable with it. There are many online casinos nowadays that offer stakes for all types of players.

Omg. Thank you. I was reading....what....wait....we’re supposed to be playing and winning...and that’s what he’s doing. Winning. Good for him.

 

[dunover]

I can see the headline now, dismissed around the world as 'fake news' - 'Player wins on Netent!'

The guy is clearly a problem gambler, due to the pattern of reversals. If he wasn't, he'd leave the balance in the account and come back to it another time. Then again, we all know reversals are there to assist problem gambling, don't we?

Either that or he's a pretty shit money launderer.

Statement of means on its way?

 

[Steviedoo]

Ok is he winning or not? ...cuz now the op thinks he’s a compulsive gambler....and he keeps reversing...but he keeps winning...which one is it?

 

[dunover]

It's possible that a slot pays better on a higher stake is it? In my experience they turn to ratshit when I raise my stake. The was obviously the Frankenstein exploit and there was a notorious cheat on land-based Book of Ra Deluxe going on for years on the continent.

 

[Borgie]

Thanks, unless the player's found a way to exploit us I wouldn't ban him, I don't like banning players because they're winning, and the game brings enough in TO and revenue that it wouldn't make sense to pull it down altogether.

We will leave it be until the end of the month, see what he does, as we have no proof there is anything dodgy going on, so maybe he's on a lucky 3 month streak, as I checked his account and he wasn't as lucky in the first 3 months so hopefully it'll go back to that. Over the last 3 months, the slot's paid him an average of 103.7% rtp and it should start to go down any day now Just waiting on him to reverse his withdrawals and start again. I can see he's logged in 3 times already today but still hasn't played or reversed.

 

[Jasminebed]

I have a couple of questions for Vibroverb.

How long is your pending period? Do you offer fee-free withdrawals? What are you weekly/monthly payout limits?

If it costs a player to deposit, either fees from the casino or the payment method itself, a reversal makes sense instead of a fresh deposit, and may not indicate a gambling problem.

As for closing accounts, I am not sure about the UK, but all the casinos I've joined have reserved the right to do just that, as long as they pay any balance in the account.

Once in a while we see a player come here complaining a casino closed their account "for winning". Generally, we laugh at the casino not understanding gambling, and advise the player that there are lots of casinos that would welcome their business.

 

[Borgie]

This is starting to make me very uneasy. Are we all watched so closely?
Do casinos sit there watching when we log in and out seeing what we do. And when we win a few times in a row rush off to the game provider to make sure the game isn't broken. Then decide we may be a problem gambler . Consider whether they should terminate our account as we are supposed to lose not win. It's all a bit disconcerting.

 

[Spikie]

If a slot has paid most money out at higher stakes then it would take a long time for lower stake players to bring the rtp back into line , but that is the risk the casino or provider has to take.

In uk sports betting the bookies can’t wait to restrict the bets of profitable punters , I would personally think that this would be the worst thing that an online regulated casino could to to damage its reputation.

If the large stake is offered then the risk has to be taken of a high roller doing some damage.

But saying that does the casino have some sort of clause in the contract with the game provider , Netent, covering wins if in the future some sort of advantage play is discovered? Or insurance ?

Maybe Trancemonkey might have an answer ?

 

[toph11]

i remember playing candy dreams when it first came out
my rtp was amazing on the slot from thousands of spins
i kept winning and winning on the slot for a week or 2

one day it was taken down for about 24 hours
the slot completely changed and it robbed me of my balance on 2-3 deposits
i haven't played it since, because the slot is shite now

 

[dionysus]

This is starting to make me very uneasy. Are we all watched so closely?
Do casinos sit there watching when we log in and out seeing what we do. And when we win a few times in a row rush off to the game provider to make sure the game isn't broken. Then decide we may be a problem gambler . Consider whether they should terminate out account as we are supposed to lose not win. It's all a bit disconcerting.

He's mentioned:
*plays daily for the last 3 months
*has so many withdrawals always going on, he just reverses them

I don't think I'd have to worry as you are I'm being watched so closely - those two statements alone would be enough to draw any manager's attention to an account - if not, they weren't doing their job.

Also your worries are player suggestion related, not from the casino side. The manager has stated:
*I don't like banning players because they're winning
*Thinking about closing down his account because he is winning too much is just crazy

So I'm not sure what is making you uneasy here.

 

[SlotGrinder]

6 months winning nearly every day and up 2700 x 20 euro bets on a progressive slot despite never having hit the progressive ? Yes I'd say he's found a cheat of some sort . Be interesting to see the data/ likelihood of this run being achievable since I assume the rtp of the slot minus the progressive is in the low 90s ? After 178000 spins and with not huge volatility it would surely be extremely difficult to run at 10% above trtp

 

[Deleted member 37551]

I do not mind he is winning a lot ,that is what playing is all about

 

[Deleted member 37551]

I hope he makes a withdrawal 10 times more then his deposits and becomes rich

 

[Deleted member 37551]

Even win the Mega Jackpot and instantly join the group of Millionairs ,which isnt as large as it should be anyway

 

[shadow123]

typing random keys madly on every jackpot game as we speak ☺

 

[DreamRJ]

typing random keys madly on every jackpot game as we speak ☺

It is how you type the word Jackpot on the keyboard. You need to type the word within 0.00001 second

EDIT: I can manage 0.00002 seconds lol, So I miss out by 0.00001 second

 

[shadow123]

thought BONAZNA was going work for a second

 

[Borgie]

thought BONAZNA was going work for a second

He found the "D" lol

 

[Steviedoo]

typing random keys madly on every jackpot game as we speak ☺

omg me toooo.....sadly nothing works....

 

[Supababe]

Well my current efforts and it’s worked twice now....

If you manage to get the free spins, click any wild Pegasus thingy as soon as it lands and it AWAYS expands for you. Sadly after I tried this they stopped appearing.

Aside from that, it is very laggy and slow to communicate with the server compared to other games....

 

[Steviedoo]

i hope the OP will keep us updated...

 

[brianmon]

Well my current efforts and it’s worked twice now....

If you manage to get the free spins, click any wild Pegasus thingy as soon as it lands and it AWAYS expands for you. Sadly after I tried this they stopped appearing.

Aside from that, it is very laggy and slow to communicate with the server compared to other games....

Erm... The wild is supposed to expand, when it first lands, in the free spins, lol

 

[brianmon]

And that is why they can not do it as I said above. I got no idea where interlog is getting that info from, but let me say that some rogue casinos are known to close accounts for any reason they like and that is why they are rogue. But casinos that have licenses in UKGC, Malta, Alderney I can assure you they can not close an account without real reason.

Let me give you an example. Say for example you played at a casino for a year and are loyal. You was a bit fed up so you goto live chat and say your a bit unhappy cos you are not winning etc etc. If you say the wrong lines that can trigger the live chat agent to then ask you some questions and if they feel you answered them in a way that sounds you have a problem with gambling then they will close your account. Furthermore, if say a few weeks later you then went to login and noticed your account closed and you had no email in that time either then you goto live chat and they explain why.

That could be because the agent that asked you those questions passed it onto another department and they read the chat transcript and decided that you did have a problem because of how you answered those questions.

So as I said casinos need to have proper cause for concern before they are allowed by law to close your account. They need to have a valid reason to do so.

Unless of course the player is breaking a term and condition or is exploiting slots in some way or betting irregularly as I said above.

A casino maybe can't 'self-exclude' you but they can 'exclude' you
They CAN close anyone's account, without giving any reason. So long as there aren't any outstanding balances, it's quite legal.
Any company has the right to refuse your business, without reason. Be it a shop, pub, online casino, or whatever

Most, if not all casinos have a clause in their T&C

Here's the clause from Videoslots

1.4 Videoslots reserves the right, at its own discretion, to:

• decline a person to open a Videoslots account and/or to close an existing account decline to accept no deposits without any explanation, provided that any wagers and winnings already made will be honoured by the Company as long as these were not acquired by fraud or other illegal or illicit means;

(apologies for the HUGE CN watermark)

 

[Vibroverb]

So, he was the top loser last night!
Lost €10k on Divine Fortune Touch, finally. He also reversed most of his withdrawals and we're finally up on the month in regards to deposit vs withdrawal of player.
I believe he will now have to deposit again in order to play. Knew it was coming.

I try to be very fair to players, I started my career with a very well known company and enjoyed it a lot until management encouraged us to lie to players, etc, and I felt more like a player than management and since I mostly work for promotions, it is in my interest to be able to create attractive promotions, that can work for the casino too but neither side can be greedy. Before self-excluding a player, I'd definately speak to him to share my concerns.

Someone asked which Casino it is....well, it's a Turkish Casino, a lot different than some of the previous places, but I like it. We're kind of a turkish Mr.Green, except it's not green but blue.

 

[DreamRJ]

So, he was the top loser last night!
Lost €10k on Divine Fortune Touch, finally. He also reversed most of his withdrawals and we're finally up on the month in regards to deposit vs withdrawal of player.
I believe he will now have to deposit again in order to play. Knew it was coming.

I try to be very fair to players, I started my career with a very well known company and enjoyed it a lot until management encouraged us to lie to players, etc, and I felt more like a player than management and since I mostly work for promotions, it is in my interest to be able to create attractive promotions, that can work for the casino too but neither side can be greedy. Before self-excluding a player, I'd definately speak to him to share my concerns.

Someone asked which Casino it is....well, it's a Turkish Casino, a lot different than some of the previous places, but I like it. We're kind of a turkish Mr.Green, except it's not green but blue.

Ok thanks for letting us know