Bwin removed from the Accredited Section

Casinomeister

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Just a heads up that Bwin has been removed from the accredited section. They have expressed to us that they will not discuss any player issues. PABs with them are dead in the water, so they will be added to our No Can Do section.

They have also demonstrated that they do not value their affiliates with recent retroactive terms that can be considered predatory.

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MJackson

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These guys are becoming bad news. Might this have something to do with their reported merger with Party Gaming?

For players I would say stay away (from experience). As an affiliate I would not consider promoting these guys based alone on how they are handling current player issues.

Hopefully they eventually see the futility of opacity and subversion.
 

jefeche

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Toronto Canada
Well done CM! Thank you for protecting the player and affiliate community!
So far they are suspended on GPWA, Rogued on GAU and AGD. Many webmasters are also listing press releases and blog posts and cross linking.

Hoping CAP will follow suit and the eventually lead to them being excluded from being allowed to exhibit at trade show events (ie - Dublin).

Surprised they would take this position to totally become unresponsive to players and affiliates. WOW!

I knew they were shafting affiliates, but players now? OMG!

Because of this I must provide warnings now on all our reviews.

Thanks CM
 

Glunn11

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Idaho
Is anyone else still seeing them listed on the Accred page (here)?

Wondering if it's just me or a cacheing issue or somesuch. :confused:

Yeah, after a cache cleaning it still shows up on mine, too.
bwin just doesn't want to give up its cozy spot! :p
 

Casinomeister

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Oops - my bad - forgot to upload the file,


Next stop - VEGAS BABY!!! :thumbsup:
 

Zodiac

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Sorry guys i only wanted describe my impression.

I don't know if Bryan have good connection or work with but who has seen bwin and their performance in Budapest must ask yourself whether they are crazy.

What i experienced in BUD shows not serious for me and i never would recommend bwin to a player.

Naturally don't interests the players but all where have seen this performance should make his own thoughts.

Sorry Bryan i don't know what your impression there was and hope that i haven't annoy you with my post.

If yes feel free to delete.
 

Casinomeister

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Sorry guys i only wanted describe my impression.

I don't know if Bryan have good connection or work with but who has seen bwin and their performance in Budapest must ask yourself whether they are crazy.

What i experienced in BUD shows not serious for me and i never would recommend bwin to a player.

Naturally don't interests the players but all where have seen this performance should make his own thoughts.

Sorry Bryan i don't know what your impression there was and hope that i haven't annoy you with my post.

If yes feel free to delete.

What did they do in Budapest? I was only there for the first day of the conference.
 

Zodiac

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What did they do in Budapest? I was only there for the first day of the conference.


I saw you ;)

What they do ?

They had have a few people with sports equipments (don't know the name) and they are hopping like wild.

Finally they are hopping and shooting with these sports equipment balls through the hall what finally ended up in some people heads, that were just in a conversation.

Totally crazy and that had nothing to do with online-gambling.

The other one goes around the affiliate program but that's not the right section for.
 

helen

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I promoted Bwin from 1998 (or somewhere near) to 2002, then i got mail:
If i wont put the Bwin banner on top of my website, they would close my affiliate account.

After asking if this was maybe a pipe dream of a lonely affiliate manager i was told that this is company policy.

I removed all banners until i talked with Bwin a year ago at Amsterdam or Budapest and opened a new affiliate account.

Yesterday i got mail again:
As i had not sent a new player for the last 60 days, they will close my account within 30 days.

Ok, thats enough, i will now put Bwin into the pit between Metrocasino and Casino Club.
 

Rhyzz

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Jan 4, 2008
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United Kingdom
I promoted Bwin from 1998 (or somewhere near) to 2002, then i got mail:
If i wont put the Bwin banner on top of my website, they would close my affiliate account.

After asking if this was maybe a pipe dream of a lonely affiliate manager i was told that this is company policy.

I removed all banners until i talked with Bwin a year ago at Amsterdam or Budapest and opened a new affiliate account.

Yesterday i got mail again:
As i had not sent a new player for the last 60 days, they will close my account within 30 days.

Ok, thats enough, i will now put Bwin into the pit between Metrocasino and Casino Club.

Just my 2 cents Helen, but have you ever been to any of the affiliate conferences? I'd highly recommend you invest in going to them at least once or twice a year. This kind of practice is normally taken with the smaller, 'less active' affiliates, those who just send a few players a month and pick up a few hundred $. They think they can bully those who don't take an active interest in the site and it's a joke. Try and get to the conferences, meet the people face to face and make it known you won't be made a fool of. Affiliate sites are fully fledged businesses for some people, they should not be kicked around like this. Anything I have set up in the past is always under mutually agreed terms, I also make a point of having a senior contact to escalate to, normally a CEO or board member. If they won't give you this, they're not serious about your business, simple.
 
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