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Bwin removed from the Accredited Section

Discussion in 'Forum Suggestions, Announcements, & Feedback' started by Casinomeister, Nov 12, 2010.

    Nov 12, 2010
  1. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Just a heads up that Bwin has been removed from the accredited section. They have expressed to us that they will not discuss any player issues. PABs with them are dead in the water, so they will be added to our No Can Do section.

    They have also demonstrated that they do not value their affiliates with recent retroactive terms that can be considered predatory.

    Edited to add: for any players needing assistance, You must register/login in order to see the link. can help you out.
     
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2010
    13 people like this.
  2. Nov 12, 2010
  3. MJackson

    MJackson Moderated User - posts must be approved

    Occupation:
    No comment
    Location:
    Miami, I, I mean Montreal
    These guys are becoming bad news. Might this have something to do with their reported merger with Party Gaming?

    For players I would say stay away (from experience). As an affiliate I would not consider promoting these guys based alone on how they are handling current player issues.

    Hopefully they eventually see the futility of opacity and subversion.
     
    1 person likes this.
  4. Nov 12, 2010
  5. jefeche

    jefeche Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Poker Webmaster
    Location:
    Toronto Canada
    Well done CM! Thank you for protecting the player and affiliate community!
    So far they are suspended on GPWA, Rogued on GAU and AGD. Many webmasters are also listing press releases and blog posts and cross linking.

    Hoping CAP will follow suit and the eventually lead to them being excluded from being allowed to exhibit at trade show events (ie - Dublin).

    Surprised they would take this position to totally become unresponsive to players and affiliates. WOW!

    I knew they were shafting affiliates, but players now? OMG!

    Because of this I must provide warnings now on all our reviews.

    Thanks CM
     
  6. Nov 13, 2010
  7. maxd

    maxd Complaints (PAB) Manager Staff Member

    Occupation:
    The PAB Guy
    Location:
    Saltirelandia
    Is anyone else still seeing them listed on the Accred page (here)?

    Wondering if it's just me or a cacheing issue or somesuch. :confused:
     
  8. Nov 13, 2010
  9. Marie2473

    Marie2473 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Operator
    Location:
    Sweden
    I just emtied my caech and i still see them on the accredited list!!
     
    1 person likes this.
  10. Nov 13, 2010
  11. Glunn11

    Glunn11 Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Content writer/online marketer
    Location:
    Idaho
    Yeah, after a cache cleaning it still shows up on mine, too.
    bwin just doesn't want to give up its cozy spot! :p
     
    1 person likes this.
  12. Nov 13, 2010
  13. maxd

    maxd Complaints (PAB) Manager Staff Member

    Occupation:
    The PAB Guy
    Location:
    Saltirelandia
    I know Bryan is prepping for another road trip so it could have slipped his mind, obviously he intended to do it.
     
  14. Nov 13, 2010
  15. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Oops - my bad - forgot to upload the file,


    Next stop - VEGAS BABY!!! :thumbsup:
     
  16. Nov 13, 2010
  17. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

    Occupation:
    webmistress
    Location:
    The Boonies
    See you there!
     
  18. Nov 15, 2010
  19. jefeche

    jefeche Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Poker Webmaster
    Location:
    Toronto Canada
    Have fun in Vegas guys!! I am jealous!
     
  20. Dec 2, 2010
  21. Zodiac

    Zodiac Senior Member PABnorogue PABaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    N/A
    Location:
    Europe
    Sorry guys i only wanted describe my impression.

    I don't know if Bryan have good connection or work with but who has seen bwin and their performance in Budapest must ask yourself whether they are crazy.

    What i experienced in BUD shows not serious for me and i never would recommend bwin to a player.

    Naturally don't interests the players but all where have seen this performance should make his own thoughts.

    Sorry Bryan i don't know what your impression there was and hope that i haven't annoy you with my post.

    If yes feel free to delete.
     
  22. Dec 2, 2010
  23. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    What did they do in Budapest? I was only there for the first day of the conference.
     
  24. Dec 2, 2010
  25. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    Yeah - this sounds as if it may be interesting - please expand!
     
  26. Dec 2, 2010
  27. Zodiac

    Zodiac Senior Member PABnorogue PABaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    N/A
    Location:
    Europe

    I saw you ;)

    What they do ?

    They had have a few people with sports equipments (don't know the name) and they are hopping like wild.

    Finally they are hopping and shooting with these sports equipment balls through the hall what finally ended up in some people heads, that were just in a conversation.

    Totally crazy and that had nothing to do with online-gambling.

    The other one goes around the affiliate program but that's not the right section for.
     
    1 person likes this.
  28. Dec 2, 2010
  29. helen

    helen Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Webmaster
    Location:
    Europe
    I promoted Bwin from 1998 (or somewhere near) to 2002, then i got mail:
    If i wont put the Bwin banner on top of my website, they would close my affiliate account.

    After asking if this was maybe a pipe dream of a lonely affiliate manager i was told that this is company policy.

    I removed all banners until i talked with Bwin a year ago at Amsterdam or Budapest and opened a new affiliate account.

    Yesterday i got mail again:
    As i had not sent a new player for the last 60 days, they will close my account within 30 days.

    Ok, thats enough, i will now put Bwin into the pit between Metrocasino and Casino Club.
     
  30. Dec 2, 2010
  31. Rhyzz

    Rhyzz Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Online Gaming
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Just my 2 cents Helen, but have you ever been to any of the affiliate conferences? I'd highly recommend you invest in going to them at least once or twice a year. This kind of practice is normally taken with the smaller, 'less active' affiliates, those who just send a few players a month and pick up a few hundred $. They think they can bully those who don't take an active interest in the site and it's a joke. Try and get to the conferences, meet the people face to face and make it known you won't be made a fool of. Affiliate sites are fully fledged businesses for some people, they should not be kicked around like this. Anything I have set up in the past is always under mutually agreed terms, I also make a point of having a senior contact to escalate to, normally a CEO or board member. If they won't give you this, they're not serious about your business, simple.
     

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